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Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:06 pm I was more wondering how much of the truck would make it past the bollard because the body of the truck would rotate around the bollard if the impact was off-centre.
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Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:49 am
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 am...My initial comment was only intended as a joke, anyway. I suggest you take it up with Brian Martin if it annoys you that much.
It's the misuse of statistics that annoys me. You know, people quoting statistics and drawing unwarranted conclusions.
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The Froggies take no shit
"It is defeat for the state… and the gangrene of Islamism gains yet more ground," said her niece Marion Maréchal of the rival hard-right party Reconquest.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68673112
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Yorick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:38 pm The Froggies take no shit
"It is defeat for the state… and the gangrene of Islamism gains yet more ground," said her niece Marion Maréchal of the rival hard-right party Reconquest.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68673112
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Another colossal fuck up by environmentalists...

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cheb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:47 am Maybe they have realised they aren't quite up to the job and have left the way clear for a better person to do it.
I never did that when I had a job.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68703684.amp

This new Scottish law could be the thin end of a wedge. If upheld the religious lot could try to climb in on it's back to try to re-establish blasphemy laws.

Like if you said the Bible or especially the Quran is utter shite you could be prosecuted for blasphemy.

Just a bit of a problem, though, with this 2020 Court of Appeal ruling. Apologies if behind the DT paywall.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... ng-police/
Two judges have struck a blow to enemies of free speech after ruling people should have the right to offend and even abuse each other without facing a police investigation.

Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.

They said it would be a “serious interference” with the right of free speech if “those wishing to express their own views could be silenced by, or threatened with, proceedings for harassment based on subjective claims by individuals that felt offended or insulted”.
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Felix wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:59 pm Oops

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68708981
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irie wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:31 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68703684.amp

This new Scottish law could be the thin end of a wedge. If upheld the religious lot could try to climb in on it's back to try to re-establish blasphemy laws.

Like if you said the Bible or especially the Quran is utter shite you could be prosecuted for blasphemy.

Just a bit of a problem, though, with this 2020 Court of Appeal ruling. Apologies if behind the DT paywall.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... ng-police/
Two judges have struck a blow to enemies of free speech after ruling people should have the right to offend and even abuse each other without facing a police investigation.

Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.

They said it would be a “serious interference” with the right of free speech if “those wishing to express their own views could be silenced by, or threatened with, proceedings for harassment based on subjective claims by individuals that felt offended or insulted”.
Bunch of clowns in Scotland! :lol:

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-gov ... 024-04-02/
LONDON, April 2 (Reuters) - J.K. Rowling will not face any action under Scotland's new hate crime law after she challenged it by asserting on social media that a number of transgender women were men, police said on Tuesday.

The Harry Potter author, a prominent gender critical campaigner, made the comments on Monday, the day that the crime of "stirring up hatred" relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation and transgender identity came into effect.
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JKRowling wrote: “The new legislation is wide open to abuse by activists who wish to silence those of us speaking out about the dangers of eliminating women’s and girls’ single-sex spaces, the nonsense made of crime data if violent and sexual assaults committed by men are recorded as female crimes, the grotesque unfairness of allowing males to compete in female sports, the injustice of women’s jobs, honours and opportunities being taken by trans-identified men, and the reality and immutability of biological sex.”
Quite.
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Be interesting to see who is the first person prosecuted under this law and what the actual offence is.
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Yambo wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:23 pm Be interesting to see who is the first person prosecuted under this law and what the actual offence is.
At a guess will be an insignificant person without the resources/money to defend themselves whereupon the legislation will be proclaimed to be a success. With much accompanying sniggering behind hands of those who know it's useless [sic] nonsense.
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We truly live in a fucked up world. The fact that it's only law in Scotchland at present is nothing to get comfortable about. Idiocy like this spreads quickly.
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It's such a poorly thought through, badly drafted and bizarre piece of legislation you have to wonder what the SNP is thinking. Is it a squirrel!!? ie something to distract from all the other problems and failures eg drug use levels, the failing education and health systems etc etc. They'd rather have people focusing on this than anything to do with reality?

It's hardly a mega-vote winner anyway. I'd say that the SNP is toast come the next election. Labour and the Lib Dems must be delighted!
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Count Steer wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:53 am It's such a poorly thought through, badly drafted and bizarre piece of legislation you have to wonder what the SNP is thinking. Is it a squirrel!!? ie something to distract from all the other problems and failures eg drug use levels, the failing education and health systems etc etc. They'd rather have people focusing on this than anything to do with reality?

It's hardly a mega-vote winner anyway. I'd say that the SNP is toast come the next election. Labour and the Lib Dems must be delighted!
iNews wrote: Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.
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irie wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:15 am
iNews wrote: Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.
In the interest of fairness and equality, they should also include misandry.
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irie wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:15 am
iNews wrote: Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.
Well, they missed a trick too. They should have, at worst, abstained, pointed out how badly thought through it was and promised to rewrite it/tear it up. It's unworkable and totally open to abuse.

Mind you, our glorious leaders are doing something similarly :roll: with this business about 'undermining our democracy'.
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The beginnings of a police state where you can dob in anyone who offends you.

https://www.scotland.police.uk/contact- ... g-centres/
Third Party Reporting Centres

You can find your local Hate Crime Third Party Reporting Centre in the relevant document for your area below.

Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray
Ayrshire
Dundee, Angus, Perth and Kinross
Highlands and Islands
Fife
Forth Valley
Edinburgh
Lothian and Borders
Greater Glasgow
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:12 pm We truly live in a fucked up world. The fact that it's only law in Scotchland at present is nothing to get comfortable about. Idiocy like this spreads quickly.
Not to England or Wales because, as posted earlier, the right * was in 2020 upheld by the Court of Appeal (jurisdiction: England and Wales, but not Scotland).

I have a daughter living in Scotland so theoretically when visiting I could get nicked for saying something someone objected to but be able to get over the border to England and thus escape retribution. :lol:
* wrote: Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.
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