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cheb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:47 am Maybe they have realised they aren't quite up to the job and have left the way clear for a better person to do it.
Shouldn't this be in the Jokes section? :)
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Taipan wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:42 am Its the new 9/11. One of many arising conspiracy theories... :roll:

Crackpot.
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Horse wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:20 pm
gremlin wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:08 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:04 pm The best example are the 2m high 'ARSENAL' stadium letters - each will stop a lorry.
Each one laden with silverwear and trophies being delivered to the club.

Oh, wait....hang on... :think:
And on that [lorry] bombshell ;)

What happens if the lorry isn't dead-centre on the bollard?
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Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:59 am
Horse wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:20 pm And on that [lorry] bombshell ;)

What happens if the lorry isn't dead-centre on the bollard?
They'll probably be positioned so the driver has no choice. High kerbs, multiple bollards etc.

But even then, the bollard won't get scared and jump out of the way ;)

It would still shred half the truck.


Bollards are just part of the countermeasures possible. Road geometry is another, so the vehicle has to slow.

https://www.npsa.gov.uk/hostile-vehicle-mitigation-hvm
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mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 am...My initial comment was only intended as a joke, anyway. I suggest you take it up with Brian Martin if it annoys you that much.
It's the misuse of statistics that annoys me. You know, people quoting statistics and drawing unwarranted conclusions.
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Horse wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:23 am
Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:59 am
Horse wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:20 pm And on that [lorry] bombshell ;)

What happens if the lorry isn't dead-centre on the bollard?
They'll probably be positioned so the driver has no choice. High kerbs, multiple bollards etc.

But even then, the bollard won't get scared and jump out of the way ;)

It would still shred half the truck.


Bollards are just part of the countermeasures possible. Road geometry is another, so the vehicle has to slow.

https://www.npsa.gov.uk/hostile-vehicle-mitigation-hvm
I was more wondering how much of the truck would make it past the bollard because the body of the truck would rotate around the bollard if the impact was off-centre.
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Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:06 pm
Horse wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:23 am
Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:59 am What happens if the lorry isn't dead-centre on the bollard?
They'll probably be positioned so the driver has no choice. High kerbs, multiple bollards etc.

But even then, the bollard won't get scared and jump out of the way ;)

It would still shred half the truck.


Bollards are just part of the countermeasures possible. Road geometry is another, so the vehicle has to slow.

https://www.npsa.gov.uk/hostile-vehicle-mitigation-hvm
I was more wondering how much of the truck would make it past the bollard because the body of the truck would rotate around the bollard if the impact was off-centre.
Typically (I saw several post-impact remains), the cab might detach - but most of the chassis, engine, etc. would stop.

I'd imagine that in an off-centre impact, depending on the offset, it would shear off the wheels and much more. It would ruin the driver's day as he won't get to heaven, 40 virgins etc. as planned.

Here's a typical UK truck and bollard. Impact at about 3:55 in:




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Rockburner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:06 pm I was more wondering how much of the truck would make it past the bollard because the body of the truck would rotate around the bollard if the impact was off-centre.
That's why you have rows of them, right?
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Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:49 am
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 am...My initial comment was only intended as a joke, anyway. I suggest you take it up with Brian Martin if it annoys you that much.
It's the misuse of statistics that annoys me. You know, people quoting statistics and drawing unwarranted conclusions.
Yes, agreed. If you're going to use a statistic, back it up or at least make sure it's from a credible, preferably peer-reviewed source.
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The Froggies take no shit
"It is defeat for the state… and the gangrene of Islamism gains yet more ground," said her niece Marion Maréchal of the rival hard-right party Reconquest.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68673112
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Yorick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:38 pm The Froggies take no shit
"It is defeat for the state… and the gangrene of Islamism gains yet more ground," said her niece Marion Maréchal of the rival hard-right party Reconquest.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68673112
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All may not be as it seems, if you read to the end of the article...

While investigators are obliged to take the threats seriously, they cannot rule out that they are part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

Prime Minister Gabriel Attal warned earlier this month that the Kremlin had embarked on a "massive destabilisation enterprise" to undermine French support for Ukraine.
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Another colossal fuck up by environmentalists...

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cheb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:47 am Maybe they have realised they aren't quite up to the job and have left the way clear for a better person to do it.
I never did that when I had a job.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68703684.amp

This new Scottish law could be the thin end of a wedge. If upheld the religious lot could try to climb in on it's back to try to re-establish blasphemy laws.

Like if you said the Bible or especially the Quran is utter shite you could be prosecuted for blasphemy.

Just a bit of a problem, though, with this 2020 Court of Appeal ruling. Apologies if behind the DT paywall.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... ng-police/
Two judges have struck a blow to enemies of free speech after ruling people should have the right to offend and even abuse each other without facing a police investigation.

Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.

They said it would be a “serious interference” with the right of free speech if “those wishing to express their own views could be silenced by, or threatened with, proceedings for harassment based on subjective claims by individuals that felt offended or insulted”.
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Felix wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:59 pm Oops

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68708981
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irie wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:31 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68703684.amp

This new Scottish law could be the thin end of a wedge. If upheld the religious lot could try to climb in on it's back to try to re-establish blasphemy laws.

Like if you said the Bible or especially the Quran is utter shite you could be prosecuted for blasphemy.

Just a bit of a problem, though, with this 2020 Court of Appeal ruling. Apologies if behind the DT paywall.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... ng-police/
Two judges have struck a blow to enemies of free speech after ruling people should have the right to offend and even abuse each other without facing a police investigation.

Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.

They said it would be a “serious interference” with the right of free speech if “those wishing to express their own views could be silenced by, or threatened with, proceedings for harassment based on subjective claims by individuals that felt offended or insulted”.
Bunch of clowns in Scotland! :lol:

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-gov ... 024-04-02/
LONDON, April 2 (Reuters) - J.K. Rowling will not face any action under Scotland's new hate crime law after she challenged it by asserting on social media that a number of transgender women were men, police said on Tuesday.

The Harry Potter author, a prominent gender critical campaigner, made the comments on Monday, the day that the crime of "stirring up hatred" relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation and transgender identity came into effect.
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JKRowling wrote: “The new legislation is wide open to abuse by activists who wish to silence those of us speaking out about the dangers of eliminating women’s and girls’ single-sex spaces, the nonsense made of crime data if violent and sexual assaults committed by men are recorded as female crimes, the grotesque unfairness of allowing males to compete in female sports, the injustice of women’s jobs, honours and opportunities being taken by trans-identified men, and the reality and immutability of biological sex.”
Quite.
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Be interesting to see who is the first person prosecuted under this law and what the actual offence is.
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Yambo wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:23 pm Be interesting to see who is the first person prosecuted under this law and what the actual offence is.
At a guess will be an insignificant person without the resources/money to defend themselves whereupon the legislation will be proclaimed to be a success. With much accompanying sniggering behind hands of those who know it's useless [sic] nonsense.
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