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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:33 pm "They" have probably done their sums are worked out it's cheaper to have one type of tooling rather than two.
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:30 pm It's a cardboard Tetris type brick with St Helens decoration and aplastic screw on/off closure. I'm sure they buy in tons of branded containers from the manufacturer. ... I'd say it's more likely that St Helens do. In which case they could request an old style screw cap

[Tetra Pak] net sales reached €12.5 billion in 2022. We sold 193 billion packages in 2022.

They don't make meagre profits by pandering to gammons :D
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Righto, challenge accepted. I wouldn't normally have anything to do with an arrogant plum such as JRM, but I feel there may be some sport to be had in this...

No calls please, I'm in a strategy meeting... :D
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?
Because it's easier (cheaper ;) ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?
Because it's easier (cheaper ;) ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.
But who actually, deliberately separates the bottle and cap when recycling? The cardboard tetrapak that my milk comes in is rinsed, squashed flat (to save space in the recycling bin) and then the cap screwed back on to keep it flat. And if we're being really anal, the package is cardboard, the closure is plastic and the two parts should go in different recycling bins.
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.
Used to be 'scrunch them, takes less space' and 'lids are the wrong plastic' (some councils got uppity and refused lids-on bottles.

Now? All change!
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pmthe package is cardboard
Probably plastic-lined. Which recycling tub?
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Because it's easier (cheaper ;) ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.
But who actually, deliberately separates the bottle and cap when recycling? The cardboard tetrapak that my milk comes in is rinsed, squashed flat (to save space in the recycling bin) and then the cap screwed back on to keep it flat. And if we're being really anal, the package is cardboard, the closure is plastic and the two parts should go in different recycling bins.
Not in this neck of the woods they don't. I don't know how they do it but from what I've seen of AOs white goods recycling facility I imagine it all gets mashed up then the small bits get separated somehow!

(We used to have a bin at the recycling facility just for plastic lids but they stopped having one).
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Horse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:25 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pmthe package is cardboard
Probably plastic-lined. Which recycling tub?
Metallised cardboard. But same dilemma...
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:26 pm Not in this neck of the woods they don't. I don't know how they do it but from what I've seen of AOs white goods recycling facility I imagine it all gets mashed up then the small bits get separated somehow!

(We used to have a bin at the recycling facility just for plastic lids but they stopped having one).
We have brown bins (cans, bottles, plastics), blue bins (paper and cardboard) and black bins (general household waste). But there is also a humunguous council-run incinerator less than a mile from us. I wonder what goes in there?
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1. Member States shall ensure that single-use plastic products listed in Part C of the Annex that have caps and lids
made of plastic may be placed on the market only if the caps and lids remain attached to the containers during the
products’ intended use stage.
Yeah good luck with that, first time the bottle gets opened the lid gets pulled off in this here house.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:29 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:26 pm Not in this neck of the woods they don't. I don't know how they do it but from what I've seen of AOs white goods recycling facility I imagine it all gets mashed up then the small bits get separated somehow!

(We used to have a bin at the recycling facility just for plastic lids but they stopped having one).
We have brown bins (cans, bottles, plastics), blue bins (paper and cardboard) and black bins (general household waste). But there is also a humunguous council-run incinerator less than a mile from us. I wonder what goes in there?
We have 2 + garden waste. Basically landfill/not landfill/compost. (Apparently everything in public waste bins goes to landfill in this area. I was told this by the chap emptying them in the local car park. The one he was emptying was chock full of bottles every week courtesy of a local alcoholic).

According to the gummint, energy from incineration is supposed to be 'residual' waste ie after all possible recycling has been done. I imagine what local authorities think of as 'all possible' varies.

In theory anything with a calorific value could go in inc. garden waste, plastic, cardboard and paper - one can only hope the scrubbers on municipal incinerators are up to scratch. (Wonder what they do with the toxic cocktail from the scrubbers?).
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Mussels wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:00 pm I like those lids, they don't fall off and roll across the floor.

My bmp is vacuum packed mince that was also introduced to help the environment, I'm wondering if I can run the brick through a mincer to turn it back to mince.
Or run the mincer in reverse and turn it back into steak?
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Horse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:25 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pmthe package is cardboard
Probably plastic-lined. Which recycling tub?
Food cartons go in the blue bin here. They've got handy diagrams moulded into the lid :D. Food cartons, tins, bottles of all kinds, tin foil and plastic all go in the blue. The red is only for "pure" cardboard.

I suppose its fairly straightforward to just mince up and recycle cardboard by itself, which is why they want that on its own. Everything else goes into the separation/ship to a third world country pile.
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Brain fade. My memory has always been good, but struggle names.

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So my mate Locky had his life support turned off last night.

He was on the organ donor register so his heart was out and on a plane to England within an hour.

He was always bringing me bits to fit to his bikes so it's kinda on brand for his bits to be fitted somewhere else. 😋😋

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When I gave up couriering, I gave him my jacket, when he had his big accident and gave it up too, he gave me it back. I still wear it to this day.

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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Because it's easier (cheaper ;) ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.
But who actually, deliberately separates the bottle and cap when recycling? The cardboard tetrapak that my milk comes in is rinsed, squashed flat (to save space in the recycling bin) and then the cap screwed back on to keep it flat. And if we're being really anal, the package is cardboard, the closure is plastic and the two parts should go in different recycling bins.
Here in France there's only 3 bins. General waste, Glass and Packaging.

Ohh and mine today.

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Jody wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:36 am Here in France there's only 3 bins. General waste, Glass and Packaging.
In our little corner of France there's just two - green bin for general waste, yellow bin for cans, plastics and cardboard. You're expected to take your glass waste to the bottle bank for recycling.
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I'm clearing out what I can from the old mans place in Ireland. Three bins from a private company, compost, recycling and waste, €221.66 a year, collected every 2 weeks. Many people choose not to have bins. The place isn't strewn with rubbish but I've no idea what they do with it. Entry to the recycling centre is ticket only, €3.50 a go. If you want to get rid of general rubbish at the recycling centre it has to be in a specific blue bag, €6 each.
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Just had to pay my annual £50 green bin emptying subscription. On top of the council tax they have the cheek to charge another £50 to take away garden cuttings. :wtf: Of course it is a bargain compared to me queuing at the local tip throughout the year, but all it's really done locally is lead to flytipping of garden waste everywhere. :roll: