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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-rev ... 5-tt/2024/

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There’s nothing quite like Moto Guzzi’s V85 TT. Launched in 2019, the old-as-the-hills Italian firm say the adventure bike is the ‘first and only in class when it comes to a classic enduro’, and they’re right – nobody else makes a retrotastic adventure bike. Comfortable, breezy to ride, grunty enough and overflowing with charisma, it’s a hard bike not to fall in lust with.

It's even harder now Guzzi have freshened up the V85 with new tech, variable timing and a smattering of other updates. The bike has the same feel-good factor as the previous version, but boasts increased comfort, desirable electronic trinkets and an improved engine. And there are more variants to choose from too: as well as the regular V85 TT (£12,000) and distance-ready V85 TT Travel (£13,300), there’s now a new V85 Strada (£11,200) with cast wheels, fewer adornments and a simple air, meaning a lower price and greater accessibility.

Guzzis have always been a bit quirky, and though dyamically accomplished this has been true of the V85. And it still is. However, with features that now meet modern rivals wheel-to-wheel, the new versions have a blend of spec and charm that make them a genuine alternative to contemporary designs like the Suzuki V-Strom 800DE (£10,999), Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro (£13,895) and new BMW F800GS (£9995).

Ride comfort was always a V85 highlight. There’s a gnarly, rippled, pock-marked section of scruffy back road on my commute that’s my handy measure of how good a bike is at absorbing crappy surfaces, and the previous V85 was the best bike to ever tackle the tarmac rodeo. And that includes semi-active showboats. Nothing’s changed with the latest version – the forks and offset monoshock still have oily damping and a pleasingly plush ride quality, while still offering support for corner-carving shenanigans.

And the V85 can carve a corner. It’s not a scalpel; the chassis hasn’t got pointy steering and lightswitch reactions, doesn’t overwhelm you with edge-of-the-tyres feedback. Instead, the Guzzi has gloriously easy, flowing handling. It pivots beneath you, rolling gracefully and easily through turns, and skipping through hairpins as readily as it rails securely through brisk, open sweeps. It feels… right.

New, lighter, cast alloy headlight brackets and a rear sunframe shave a kilo or so, with the TT’s kerb weight now 228kg or thereabout. Not a featherweight, but it carries its weight very well.

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Opt for the new Strada model and it has cast wheels. These are significantly lighter, reducing unsprung mass and gyroscopic inertia, and with road-biased tyres the Strada’s handling is even lighter. It’s gloriously tossable.

For 2024 there’s a handy preload adjuster wheel on the rear shock of the TT and TT Travel variants. These two bikes also get an IMU whatsit tucked inside somewhere, meaning cornering ABS and traction control for turn-taking confidence.

Comfort is superb. The seat’s not got height adjustment and the wide-barred stance is a little different to modern adventure bikes, which place you higher and closer to the nose. But it’s a well-spaced and pleasing place to spend a long riding day. Less tiring than before as well: the screen is now adjustable (five positions, 70mm total variance) and reduces blast on your noggin by 30%, while the Travel’s taller screen deflects 50% more blast and it has new deflectors on the tank.

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Same air-cooled, pushrod, overhead-valve, two-valves-per-pot, 853cc V-twin as before, accept now it has variable valve timing. Guzzi say it’s for performance. They tweaked the motor a couple of years ago, losing a bit of top-end power in favour of low-rev strength, and the new variability further improves torque at lower revs (90% of peak grunt arrives at just 3000rpm) while also restoring peak power to 79bhp. Very good. But you can’t help wonder whether Euro5+ emission regs are what drove the decision.

Either way, it’s an even friendlier and more usable engine than before. There’s plenty of bottom-end drive for easy, lazy progress, enough midrange flexibility to leave the six-speed ’box in whichever ratio you fancy when flicking down mountain roads, and just enough high-rev willingness to be exciting. The delivery’s linear and step-free, too. There are more powerful and faster bikes, certainly – but the V85’s performance is accessible, usable, and delivered cheerfully. Which sounds daft, but I know what I mean…

The clutch is light enough to make owners of 1980s Guzzis weep with joy, and the gearbox is mostly slick and easy. And the V85 sounds good too, with its pinging cooling fins, mechanical hubbub and traditional Guzzi exhaust note

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There’s a decent list of features on each of the three versions, improving as the price climbs. The cast-wheel V85 Strada (£11,200) has simple ABS and traction control, new switchgear with cruise control, a 5in TFT display, and an adjustable screen.

Step up to the spoke-wheel V85 TT and you get cornering ABS and traction, an extra riding mode, handguards, and a remote rear preload adjuster. And topping the pile is the V85 Travel (£13,300) which adds a taller screen and air deflectors, panniers, heated grips and heated seat, connectivity, and yet another riding mode.

All bikes also have the rather useful 23-litre tank, suspension that’s adjustable for spring preload and rebound damping, and loads of accessories and options including luggage, crash protection, centrestand, Öhlins rear shock, tyre monitoring, and everything in between.
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I rather like that. Wouldn't mind a test ride. :thumbup:
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I really do like V85s, real quirky looker.
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I love the V85, one of the few brand new bikes that actually does something for me.

I still wish they'd put this engine in a classic roadster sort of bike though. I know they have the 850cc in other models, but not the full fat one from the V85TT as far as I know.
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I really fancy one too, but the nearest dealer is 80 miles away, so that is a bit of a problem.

My nearest Lexus dealer for the car is 50 miles away, and when I bought it it was " No problem sir, we will collect and deliver it back." That didn't last, I now have to take it to them and collect it too.
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As lovely as this is, I'll stick with my v100 mandello.
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Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:06 am As lovely as this is, I'll stick with my v100 mandello.
V100 Mandello every time for me. Which is not to disrespect the V85TT, just that the V100 (for me) is better in every way.
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Doesn't the new Stelvio have the new V100 engine in an ADV package?

I think I'd take one over the V85.

Bigger is betterer, right?
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I have a soft spot for Guzzis - even though I didn't particularly like the one I have ridden.
That looks good - but 79 bhp and 230 kgs may be an issue (though it didn't really matter on my GS 1150 ADV)
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I dislike the V100 for one, basically very stupid, reason.

The exhaust pipes stick out sideways :D
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:04 am I dislike the V100 for one, basically very stupid, reason.

The exhaust pipes stick out sideways :D
Unfortunately that is key to them re-packaging the bike more effectively, reducing wheelbase and improving weight distribution compared to the older pipe-stick-out-at-front bikes...
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I did say it was stupid.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:23 am New, lighter, cast alloy headlight brackets and a rear sunframe shave a kilo or so,
That's the Italian climate for you.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:17 am I did say it was stupid.
I thought it looked wrong at first, but now quite like the layout.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:47 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:17 am I did say it was stupid.
I thought it looked wrong at first, but now quite like the layout.
They're not as sticky outy as you might think.

Also, one would assume, that unlike header pipes directly in front of the engine will lose heat into the engine, whereas, side exit headers lose heat away from the engine (and surprisingly not into the riders legs).

It's an assumption, but I like the style; it's different.
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Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:27 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:47 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:17 am I did say it was stupid.
I thought it looked wrong at first, but now quite like the layout.
They're not as sticky outy as you might think.

Also, one would assume, that unlike header pipes directly in front of the engine will lose heat into the engine, whereas, side exit headers lose heat away from the engine (and surprisingly not into the riders legs).

It's an assumption, but I like the style; it's different.
Yes at first glance it looked a bit odd, but not only can I see all the advantages it brings, I also now prefer it to the 'old' Guzzi layout.
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Isn't the V100 water cooled, rendering such considerations fairly secondary? Also means the radiator/exhaust would clash on the 'traditional' layout.

My assumption is that the 90° head flip/twist is so you can have a big ol' airbox under the tank, like most modern engines, with easy plumbing into (now inward facing) inlet ports.
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On the old 2V Guzzis the carbs got in the way of your legs/knees but now the throttle bodies are inside the V and out of the way. It has so many advantages you wonder why it took so long to make the switch. Also the new engine is 103 mm shorter front to back, so allowing much more freedom in positioning the engine optimally.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:37 pm My assumption is that the 90° head flip/twist is so you can have a big ol' airbox under the tank, like most modern engines, with easy plumbing into (now inward facing) inlet ports.
It was only at the Brum show I noticed the BMW twin heads are now arranged with the exhaust pointed downwards.

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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:06 pm On the old 2V Guzzis the carbs got in the way of your legs/knees but now the throttle bodies are inside the V and out of the way.
And why the CX500 heads were twisted 22° from parallel.

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