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darthpunk wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:26 pm I'm a pathetic wannabe hipster, so, something like this

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And I'll use whatever is left over for tattoos, craft beer and beard oil
With £40k to spend you could have a different coloured one for each day of the week...
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MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:18 am
Taipan wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:13 am They haven't built a bike yet that I'd want to spend anywhere near that amount of money on. I feel i'm missing out on this excitement sometimes...
We aren't a million miles off £25k being a regular price for a bike.
I was looking at the Indian FTRs... the base model isn't much over £12k, and for some reason that escapes me, I actually like the looks.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:18 am We aren't a million miles off £25k being a regular price for a bike.
Depends what you call regular I guess. I'd say the average price for new bike sales would be sub £10k. Much more volume at the bottom end of the market.
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mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:59 pm
darthpunk wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:26 pm I'm a pathetic wannabe hipster, so, something like this

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And I'll use whatever is left over for tattoos, craft beer and beard oil
With £40k to spend you could have a different coloured one for each day of the week...
If he's going all-out hipster, every one would have a brown seat :)
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mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:52 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:18 am We aren't a million miles off £25k being a regular price for a bike.
Depends what you call regular I guess. I'd say the average price for new bike sales would be sub £10k. Much more volume at the bottom end of the market.
Regular higher end M-Cycles, Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati etc etc.
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I've given this question a lot of thought, here's what I'm going to spend £40k on and still have plenty of change.

€30k on the five acres of land adjoining my current three acres. It's up for sale, sadly I'm in Ireland at the moment, I'll buy it when I get back home.

€4k ish on a used GasGas TXT250 to ride around my eight acres, I have an entire mountain to play on as well.

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The Spin Doctor wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:14 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:18 am
Taipan wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:13 am They haven't built a bike yet that I'd want to spend anywhere near that amount of money on. I feel i'm missing out on this excitement sometimes...
We aren't a million miles off £25k being a regular price for a bike.
I was looking at the Indian FTRs... the base model isn't much over £12k, and for some reason that escapes me, I actually like the looks.
I like the FTR, in fact I like a few Indian's which is odd as generally I really don't get the whole cruiser thing. They have something about them that the usual Harley and clones don't.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:40 am
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:52 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:18 am We aren't a million miles off £25k being a regular price for a bike.
Depends what you call regular I guess. I'd say the average price for new bike sales would be sub £10k. Much more volume at the bottom end of the market.
Regular higher end M-Cycles, Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati etc etc.
There's regular, then there's higher end. "Regular higher end" is an oxymoron.
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mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:22 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:40 am
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:52 pm

Depends what you call regular I guess. I'd say the average price for new bike sales would be sub £10k. Much more volume at the bottom end of the market.
Regular higher end M-Cycles, Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati etc etc.
There's regular, then there's higher end. "Regular higher end" is an oxymoron.
Not at all, for me a regular bike now starts at £15k and up to £20k the norm, a regular high end bike is a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny weekend use.
A Rocket III, a Multistrada, a Fat Bob or a Diavel, are regular higher end bikes without the bells, whistles, maintenance concerns and marketing hype of high end bikes.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:36 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:22 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:40 am Regular higher end M-Cycles, Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati etc etc.
There's regular, then there's higher end. "Regular higher end" is an oxymoron.
Not at all, for me a regular bike now starts at £15k and up to £20k the norm, a regular high end bike is a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny weekend use.
A Rocket III, a Multistrada, a Fat Bob or a Diavel, are regular higher end bikes without the bells, whistles, maintenance concerns and marketing hype of high end bikes.
I'd suggest that's a fairly narrow view of the bike market, and not one shared by most people. All my bikes (that are actually on the road) fall into the category of "a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny day use", and the most expensive of those was my KTM Duke 690R at a little over £8k new.
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mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:14 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:36 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:22 am

There's regular, then there's higher end. "Regular higher end" is an oxymoron.
Not at all, for me a regular bike now starts at £15k and up to £20k the norm, a regular high end bike is a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny weekend use.
A Rocket III, a Multistrada, a Fat Bob or a Diavel, are regular higher end bikes without the bells, whistles, maintenance concerns and marketing hype of high end bikes.
I'd suggest that's a fairly narrow view of the bike market, and not one shared by most people. All my bikes (that are actually on the road) fall into the category of "a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny day use", and the most expensive of those was my KTM Duke 690R at a little over £8k new.
I'd suggest your wrong, and that my view is pretty middle of the road (regular / common) for those that buy bikes as toys.
There will always be a budget market, sub £10k, for those that don't want to spend or need a commuter, but £15k+ was a pretty middle of the road a couple of years ago, now they are closer to £20k, which brings me back to my original point of it won't be many years before £25k won't be a figure that causes raised eyebrows
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:19 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:14 am
I'd suggest that's a fairly narrow view of the bike market, and not one shared by most people. All my bikes (that are actually on the road) fall into the category of "a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny day use", and the most expensive of those was my KTM Duke 690R at a little over £8k new.
An £8k new bike is a budget bike.
I wish it weren't, but it is.

Anything nice that has caught my eye over the last couple of years has been >£15k and that seems to be fairly standard.
Anything else seems to be the stack 'em high and sell 'em cheap stuff, with discounts - which IMO comes under the category of a budget bike.
This was at 2017 prices and at that point in time the 690s were roughly middle of the KTM range. List on the 690R was £9k, which made it one of the more expensive singles on the mass market (CCMs cost a fair wedge more but are/were made in very small numbers). None of this bothered me - it was the bike I wanted and I've been absolutely delighted with it. I cannot imagine ever selling it.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:33 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:14 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:36 am

Not at all, for me a regular bike now starts at £15k and up to £20k the norm, a regular high end bike is a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny weekend use.
A Rocket III, a Multistrada, a Fat Bob or a Diavel, are regular higher end bikes without the bells, whistles, maintenance concerns and marketing hype of high end bikes.
I'd suggest that's a fairly narrow view of the bike market, and not one shared by most people. All my bikes (that are actually on the road) fall into the category of "a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny day use", and the most expensive of those was my KTM Duke 690R at a little over £8k new.
I'd suggest your wrong, and that my view is pretty middle of the road (regular / common) for those that buy bikes as toys.
There will always be a budget market, sub £10k, for those that don't want to spend or need a commuter, but £15k+ was a pretty middle of the road a couple of years ago, now they are closer to £20k, which brings me back to my original point of it won't be many years before £25k won't be a figure that causes raised eyebrows
In that case we have to agree to disagree.
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mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:36 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:33 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:14 am
I'd suggest that's a fairly narrow view of the bike market, and not one shared by most people. All my bikes (that are actually on the road) fall into the category of "a regular bike to have in the garage for sunny day use", and the most expensive of those was my KTM Duke 690R at a little over £8k new.
I'd suggest your wrong, and that my view is pretty middle of the road (regular / common) for those that buy bikes as toys.
There will always be a budget market, sub £10k, for those that don't want to spend or need a commuter, but £15k+ was a pretty middle of the road a couple of years ago, now they are closer to £20k, which brings me back to my original point of it won't be many years before £25k won't be a figure that causes raised eyebrows
In that case we have to agree to disagree.
Happy too.
I'm not in any way stating it's the way things should be, just the way things are (as I see them).

My 2006 Speed Triple was £10k new, Triumphs similar model now is only £12k.
My current bike was £15k in 2018, todays model is just under £20k.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:44 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:36 am In that case we have to agree to disagree.
Happy too.
I'm not in any way stating it's the way things should be, just the way things are (as I see them).

My 2006 Speed Triple was £10k new, Triumphs similar model now is only £12k.
My current bike was £15k in 2018, todays model is just under £20k.
It's an interesting one - is my view of expensive (or what I regard as expensive) bikes such that because I regard them as over-priced (or more realistically out of my price range) that I don't find them desirable? About the only bike that's in the £15k - £20k bracket that I'd really fancy is the Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory (with Akrapovic exhaust, of course), but it's just way more motorcycle than I need or could reasonably use. So is my apparent financial conservatism suppressing my desire for expensive shiny new two-wheeled toys?
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:51 am Even that XSR900GP I fancied is £15k!
Yeah, but that's just silly when a stock one is available for £10k.
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The best selling bike over 125cc in the UK in 2023 was the BMW R1250GS.

You can't buy one now, but the replacement R1300GS starts at £15,990.
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:17 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:06 pm
Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:51 am Even that XSR900GP I fancied is £15k!
Yeah, but that's just silly when a stock one is available for £10k.
Well there you go, you've just made the point very well, the budget council house version is £10k, but the non-budget version is £15k+.
I'm not really sure what point I've made, but paying 50% more than a base model for a paint job is silly.
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mangocrazy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:05 pm So is my apparent financial conservatism suppressing my desire for expensive shiny new two-wheeled toys?
Probably, and I totally get it, I walked out of the showroom twice before pulling the trigger, no way was I spending £15k on a toy / bike.
If I hadn't been with my wife & daughter, and if I wasn't really really good at 'man maths' I would have left it