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Model of helmet??

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Help. I’m off to a bike show this morning. I guess there’s a slim possibility that there will be someone selling visors.

I’m taking the Arai as I am hoping to do a test ride and don’t want to carry the Shoei as well.

BUT I can’t find the model of the Shoei written on the helmet anywhere ☹️

I’m guessing the design will be by model so, crossing fingers here, anyone know what model this helmet is?

I have XR in my head but no idea if that’s correct!!!

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Re: Model of helmet??

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I don't know. But ...

Open one image in a new tab, search with Google Lens, and:

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/149463281353396882/

https://stiebinger-motorradbekleidung.a ... helm-m-xl/

Is that it?
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Perfect. Thank you. That’s it :wub: :wub:
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My mate Matt is heading there today, to go to the show tomorrow.

Big bloke, with beard, so easy to recognise at a bike show :D If you see him, say Hi :)
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Shoei XR1100 were made in 2009.... 15 years ago..

You sure you want a visor for a 15 year old helmet ?
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https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/

If you're buying a new helmet, get one that's to the new 22-06 (not -05) standard. It's a substantial improvement.
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Looks like a XR 1100 to me.

I am surprised that all the foam has disintegrated- mine did
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Horse wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:28 am https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/

If you're buying a new helmet, get one that's to the new 22-06 (not -05) standard. It's a substantial improvement.
TBF, when I was looking at a new one, Helmet City were relaxed about the “improvements”.
I was looking at Shoei Air GT 3 - but it’s not the new std.
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There has been research done saying the 6 years life in nonsense.
Even the insides don’t decay as much as the manufacturers say - but then than is useful marketing.
Supposedly, on helmets more that 15 years old, stored out of sunlight , the shell strength does not deteriorate
I looked into this as I had a 16 yr old MTB full face. It worked absolutely fine when I needed it!
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Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:38 am
Horse wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:28 am https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/

If you're buying a new helmet, get one that's to the new 22-06 (not -05) standard. It's a substantial improvement.
TBF, when I was looking at a new one, Helmet City were relaxed about the “improvements”.
Well, one of the changes from -05 to -06 is rotational testing. Older helmets (certainly not 15 years old) won't have been constructed accordingly, more recent helmets might have been.

There are other changes too.
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Horse wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:19 am
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:38 am
Horse wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:28 am https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/

If you're buying a new helmet, get one that's to the new 22-06 (not -05) standard. It's a substantial improvement.
TBF, when I was looking at a new one, Helmet City were relaxed about the “improvements”.
Well, one of the changes from -05 to -06 is rotational testing. Older helmets (certainly not 15 years old) won't have been constructed accordingly, more recent helmets might have been.

There are other changes too.
In MTB world that's called MIPS, or one of the major players in the game is MIPS anyway but used by different suppliers. A few other companies have a similar basis on MIPS.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:25 am
Horse wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:19 am
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:38 am

TBF, when I was looking at a new one, Helmet City were relaxed about the “improvements”.
Well, one of the changes from -05 to -06 is rotational testing. Older helmets (certainly not 15 years old) won't have been constructed accordingly, more recent helmets might have been.
In MTB world that's called MIPS, or one of the major players in the game is MIPS anyway but used by different suppliers. A few other companies have a similar basis on MIPS.
Yup. RUROC have strips of Rheon material in the Atlas 4. I don't know whether that's a change from earlier versions.
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FWIW, SHARP was developed in 2007, first helmets tested in 2008.


RUROC say:

WHAT'S THE BEST MOTORCYCLE HELMET SAFETY RATING?

ECE 22.06 is the most sophisticated road helmet standard, but that is only legally applicable to EU countries. FIM is a slightly more rigorous version of the 22.06 standard, but that is only specific to track riding, and the additional aspects of it are really only relevant to high-speed riding. All of our ATLAS 4.0 motorcycle helmets have achieved the ECE 22.06 safety rating.

Every major market territory has its own respective motorcycle helmet safety certification that needs to be in place in order to legally ride on those roads. Each of these sets of tests and standards shares similarities, but also have some variations that evaluate the helmet in their own unique way.

ECE 22.06 is the standard required for motorcycle helmets in EU countries, it is the most sophisticated road helmet standard to date, with over 10 significantly different types of tests, all of which together make up the approval process.

The track riding specific FIM qualification follows the ECE 22.06 test process very closely, with slight increases to some of the test's limits, aimed at tackling very high-speed riding. This is also the same for the SHARP rating, with the exception that SHARP add a weighting factor to each impact point when calculating the overall performance. This is based on the probability of having an impact on each point, to ensure a statistically enhanced safety evaluation is delivered.

Achieving ECE 22.06 status with ATLAS 4.0 motorcycle helmet was absolutely key to us achieving our safety improvement aspirations, and in fact, we surpassed all the testing requirements by a minimum of more than 20%. Making this full-face helmet by far the safest ATLAS yet!

https://www.ruroc.com/en_gb/atlas-4-saf ... cle-helmet
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weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:16 am Shoei XR1100 were made in 2009.... 15 years ago..

You sure you want a visor for a 15 year old helmet ?
I"d be utterly astounded if anyone still even makes a visor that fits a 15 year old helmet.
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:39 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:16 am Shoei XR1100 were made in 2009.... 15 years ago..

You sure you want a visor for a 15 year old helmet ?
I"d be utterly astounded if anyone still even makes a visor that fits a 15 year old helmet.
There might be a £9.99 Bob Heath one in a stock cupboard? ;)
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:39 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:16 am Shoei XR1100 were made in 2009.... 15 years ago..

You sure you want a visor for a 15 year old helmet ?
I"d be utterly astounded if anyone still even makes a visor that fits a 15 year old helmet.
https://www.shoei-europe.com/shop/en/sp ... dark-smoke

https://www.thevisorshop.com/en/Shoei-V ... -7290.aspx

etc etc
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:51 am
I quite like that and they're cheap.
It'd have to be one of the 'race' lids, I just don't like the look of / trust their fidlock system on the 'street' lids
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2009 was the release date for the 'new' Shoei XR1100 helmet. It was superceded by the NXR in 2014, but leftover stock was still sold for at least a couple of years later. So I'd be reasonably optimistic of finding XR1100 visors still for sale.

I've got a couple of XR1100 helmets that I still use and the only part of the foam that falls apart/disintegrates is the easily removable part that sits on the top of the head. Remove that, vacuum out the helmet and replace with new foam of the same thickness and you're good to go. I really don't buy these scare stories about 10 year old helmets suddenly turning into death traps. If a helmet has been stored in a dry, cool, reasonably well ventilated area out of direct sunlight their lifespan should be comfortably more than 10 years.
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I read this as 'Helmet of a model' and have spent the last 20 minutes trying to get the perfect shot... :oops:
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AAMOI, who does the scare stories?

*If* a helmet is looked after, stored carefully, etc etc and not showing signs of wear, then it probably isn't deteriorating as quickly as others.

But in the same way that helmets don't instantly evaporate when a certain timestamp expires, they don't magically newer levels of protection either.

And how it looks, or feeling sturdy, is not a particularly good guide of how well the helmet will absorb impact forces.
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