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PSA. Cheapy MTB again

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https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3820052/

I bought one of my old bikes from him... That's cracking value that.
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Gizza chance, I haven't ridden the last one you made me buy yet :)
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weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:59 pm https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3820052/

I bought one of my old bikes from him... That's cracking value that.
Found any gravel bikes?
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Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:08 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:59 pm https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3820052/

I bought one of my old bikes from him... That's cracking value that.
Found any gravel bikes?
I'm not drunk :)
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Re: PSA. Cheapy MTB again

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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
In the same way a KTM Adventure is an adventure bike, or a ZX10R is a sports bike... they're 'better' at certain things.

A gravel bike can be used on road, light trails, shopping, but it's ideal place is fire-roads/gravel tracks

sorta.
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Re: PSA. Cheapy MTB again

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weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:11 pm
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
In the same way a KTM Adventure is an adventure bike, or a ZX10R is a sports bike... they're 'better' at certain things.

A gravel bike can be used on road, light trails, shopping, but it's ideal place is fire-roads/gravel tracks

sorta.
TBH, they are road bike for real men. :thumbup:
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:20 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:11 pm
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
In the same way a KTM Adventure is an adventure bike, or a ZX10R is a sports bike... they're 'better' at certain things.

A gravel bike can be used on road, light trails, shopping, but it's ideal place is fire-roads/gravel tracks

sorta.
Yeah I suppose I can see the logic, I'd have just assumed any hardtail would do it and you only change the tyres.
Course it will... it's all marketing :) you don't even need to change tyres... i do road rides on my MTB perfectly fine, just slower than i could with faster tyres/bikes... but it still goes from A to B.
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:08 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:59 pm https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3820052/

I bought one of my old bikes from him... That's cracking value that.
Found any gravel bikes?
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
They are basically road bikes with relaxed geometry, tougher and wider rims and clearance for bigger tyres. Proper gravel bikes usually have more rugged groupsets than road bikes as well as enhancements like wider flared drop bars and some even have dropper seat posts. I have 2, a Titanium framed Ribble CGR Ti that I had specced with Shimano Di II road groupset and my latest one which is a Specialized Turbo Creo E-bike. I now almost exclusively ride the E-bike as I am not as strong as I used to be and it helps me get up the big mountains and keep up with pacier riders.
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I have a gravel bike that I bought specifically for the road :)

I had a road bike a few years ago but found it too uncomfortable. A gravel bike is designed for light off-roading, but the upshot is that they're perfect road bikes for old farts like me that like to keep their fillings intact and back still working when going to the shops.

I did use my MTB for a long time on the road too, but the gearing means that you're maxing out at 25mph while peddaling like a rabbit, so can't take advantage of any hills. You coast down them and then run out of momentum after the first 10m up the other side, whereas if you can get to 35mph or whatever on the downhill then you can coast halfway up again for free.
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every now and then ( yesterday was one of them), I think I need a gravel bike - sauntering along country lanes, looks a bluebells, with home made lemonade and fairy cakes in the basket on the front. When the weather is shit round here it gets dangerous - road cycling is not for me, because of the driving standards (and hate of cyclists).
Hence getting out when the weather is a bit rubbish means potentially a gravel bike, which some of the folks I ride with have.
So I was looking at this
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/v ... ravel-bike

But then I realise I have my Cotic RoadRat - which with the few tweaks I have done, has gravel bike geometry - but with flat bars. Equipped with cyclocross tyres, it is incredibly capable.
The only thin is the frame was designed for single speed so rear facing drop outs - with a spacer thing to stop the wheel moving backward in the frame.
It is only on one side - and if you brake really hard, it does nothin to stop the other side moving backwards and locking against the frame. Don't ask me how I know....
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Re: PSA. Cheapy MTB again

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weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:11 pm
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
In the same way a KTM Adventure is an adventure bike, or a ZX10R is a sports bike... they're 'better' at certain things.

A gravel bike can be used on road, light trails, shopping, but it's ideal place is fire-roads/gravel tracks

sorta.
Cyclocross bikes then?

I have a Planet X London Road thats supposedly a gravel bike. I don't think I'd trust the carbon fork on anything apart from tarmac.

That MTB is an utter bargain,
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Bigjawa wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:30 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:11 pm
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
You can buy a bicycle specifically for riding on gravel?
In the same way a KTM Adventure is an adventure bike, or a ZX10R is a sports bike... they're 'better' at certain things.

A gravel bike can be used on road, light trails, shopping, but it's ideal place is fire-roads/gravel tracks

sorta.
Cyclocross bikes then?

I have a Planet X London Road thats supposedly a gravel bike. I don't think I'd trust the carbon fork on anything apart from tarmac.

That MTB is an utter bargain,
Yeah kinda CX but slightly more relaxed geometry, bit it's really tiny differences we're talking about
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I don't suppose there's any chance they run small, is there? If only there were mediums!
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https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/gt-force-2020/

A bit yeah. 465mm is less than most Larges
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You want the Doris Stokes version :obscene-drinkingcheers:

Definition of bicycle: two wheels, preferably round, saddle, pedals and handlebars. Not much else in the general scheme of things.

Working on so many every week, what name is used to define them is of little consequence other than to the marketing guys when it comes to working on them. You can, and people do, use pretty much anything to do what you want cycling wise. Keeping in mind that it will probably break at some point, as is testified by some of the customer's comments when dropping off their knackered steed.
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:02 am In the early 80’s we put cow horns on our racers, with whatever wheels we could get and that was our off-road bikes when we went from skateboarding to off-road biking.

This was before anyone starting making proper MTBs, at least in the UK anyway.

I snapped the headstock on one doing jumps but in general they stood up to all the abuse.
When I was a kid, Raleigh did a thing called a Bomber that was like an outsize BMX, first "Mountain Bike" I remember was Mavericks, around 1986.