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Felix wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:00 am Oops. Remember folks, keep your sat nav up to date :thumbup:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmmgvnnjgq9o
I'd say WTF don't people actually look at the road the satnav is suggesting and make the extra decision as to whether to trust it or not - but I've seen too many photos of cars that have followed sat nave that doesn't realise a lot of roads are pistes (or just inaccessible) in the winter :roll: :roll:
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Noggin wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:12 pm
Felix wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:00 am Oops. Remember folks, keep your sat nav up to date :thumbup:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmmgvnnjgq9o
I'd say WTF don't people actually look at the road the satnav is suggesting and make the extra decision as to whether to trust it or not - but I've seen too many photos of cars that have followed sat nave that doesn't realise a lot of roads are pistes (or just inaccessible) in the winter :roll: :roll:
TBF it always has the pavement in front but you could still drive over it with caution to get down the lane. It was the stage door for the Playhouse but of late it was more just for delivery's. then with no warning its not got stairs. I checked this morning with my sat nav what also routed me down that street :D
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Yambo wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:23 am
irie wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:41 pm
During their lives men have a 50% chance of being diagnosed with cancer.

Mmmm, am I right in thinking that you are saying that as a man, I either will get diagnosed with cancer or I won't get diagnosed with cancer?
That's a strange way of reading it. I took it to mean that out of a random sample of, say, a million men, half a million will be diagnosed with cancer.
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Saga Lout wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:21 am
Yambo wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:23 am
irie wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:41 pm
During their lives men have a 50% chance of being diagnosed with cancer.

Mmmm, am I right in thinking that you are saying that as a man, I either will get diagnosed with cancer or I won't get diagnosed with cancer?
That's a strange way of reading it. I took it to mean that out of a random sample of, say, a million men, half a million will be diagnosed with cancer.

It's called ambiguity.

Statistics are meaningless (or can have many interpretations) when not put into context.
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Yambo wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:29 am
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:21 am
Yambo wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:23 am


Mmmm, am I right in thinking that you are saying that as a man, I either will get diagnosed with cancer or I won't get diagnosed with cancer?
That's a strange way of reading it. I took it to mean that out of a random sample of, say, a million men, half a million will be diagnosed with cancer.

It's called ambiguity.

Statistics are meaningless (or can have many interpretations) when not put into context.
According to the NHS, 1 in 2 people will get some form of cancer in their lifetime.
According to what Hull's chief anatomical pathologist told me several years ago, more people die with cancer than from it, and many don't know they have it, with it being picked up at post mortem. Tests for cancer are better these days but if you don't know you're ill, you probably don't get a test.
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Bike Breaker wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:11 am
Yambo wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:29 am
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:21 am

That's a strange way of reading it. I took it to mean that out of a random sample of, say, a million men, half a million will be diagnosed with cancer.

It's called ambiguity.

Statistics are meaningless (or can have many interpretations) when not put into context.
According to the NHS, 1 in 2 people will get some form of cancer in their lifetime.
According to what Hull's chief anatomical pathologist told me several years ago, more people die with cancer than from it, and many don't know they have it, with it being picked up at post mortem. Tests for cancer are better these days but if you don't know you're ill, you probably don't get a test.
Needs a bit more data. Does the 1 in 2 include non-melanoma skin cancers? (Most major stats metrics don't, but if you want to beef up the numbers....).
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If you avoid heart attack, stroke and fatal accident, cancer gets you in the end.
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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:47 am If you avoid heart attack, stroke and fatal accident, cancer gets you in the end.
Or whitevanman asleep at the wheel. :thumbup:
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Skub wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:47 am
JackyJoll wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:47 am If you avoid heart attack, stroke and fatal accident, cancer gets you in the end.
Or whitevanman asleep at the wheel. :thumbup:
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So avoid HA, stroke, fatal accident, and don’t get cancer, you’ll be fine.
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Wossname wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:44 am So avoid HA, stroke, fatal accident, and don’t get cancer, you’ll be fine.
Sharks. Don' forget sharks. There you are enoying your holiday swim and one of those sneaky, big toothed bastards ends you. Just like that...
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Wossname wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:44 am So avoid HA, stroke, fatal accident, and don’t get cancer, you’ll be fine.
Are there loads of Hell's Angels on your patch? :shock:
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Ok for Hell’s Angels, thanks, but I forgot about sharks. Avoid sharks.

Edit: don’t they come under the Fatal Accidents umbrella?
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What about bee stings and honey badgers?
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Greenman wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:50 pm What about bee stings and honey badgers?
A bad combination.
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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:21 pm
Greenman wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:50 pm What about bee stings and honey badgers?
A bad combination.
Some would say a deadly combination...;)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

https://news.sky.com/story/nestle-axing ... y-13066140

IMHO it all went wrong when the got rid of the foil that you could rub over the top of the bar to pattern the foil.
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Wossname wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:41 pm Ok for Hell’s Angels, thanks, but I forgot about sharks. Avoid sharks.

Edit: don’t they come under the Fatal Accidents umbrella?
I'd get rid of that umbrella if I were you.
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:22 pm NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

https://news.sky.com/story/nestle-axing ... y-13066140

IMHO it all went wrong when the got rid of the foil that you could rub over the top of the bar to pattern the foil.
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Count Steer wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:20 am
Bike Breaker wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:11 am
Yambo wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:29 am


It's called ambiguity.

Statistics are meaningless (or can have many interpretations) when not put into context.
According to the NHS, 1 in 2 people will get some form of cancer in their lifetime.
According to what Hull's chief anatomical pathologist told me several years ago, more people die with cancer than from it, and many don't know they have it, with it being picked up at post mortem. Tests for cancer are better these days but if you don't know you're ill, you probably don't get a test.
Needs a bit more data. Does the 1 in 2 include non-melanoma skin cancers? (Most major stats metrics don't, but if you want to beef up the numbers....).
Yes.