Actual race motocross bikes as road going SMs

[cheb]

Much easier to convert now to a proper road going bike, LED lights and lithium batteries, bicycle speedo or GPS, and no 2T oil to carry.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Depends what you want, if you're going to only ride it for 20 minutes and can live with the maintenance I think they're great.

[KungFooBob]

I'd like to say a fourbanger would be more reliable than a smoker, but I've a sneaky feeling that although you'd have to rebuild a 2t twice as often it would be a lot cheaper to do so.

[Jody]

The suspension will be way too soft.

You won't have a stand, so always need to find a wall.

No ignition used to freak me out.

[Yorick]

I'd like to say a fourbanger would be more reliable than a smoker, but I've a sneaky feeling that although you'd have to rebuild a 2t twice as often it would be a lot cheaper to do so.

We all have 2 stroke enduro bikes and never had any engine problems.
We all use Motul 2 stroke oil.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I'd like to say a fourbanger would be more reliable than a smoker, but I've a sneaky feeling that although you'd have to rebuild a 2t twice as often it would be a lot cheaper to do so.

We all have 2 stroke enduro bikes and never had any engine problems.
We all use Motul 2 stroke oil.

That's because you don't ride it fast enough to do any engine wear.

A bit more seriously, both 2 stroke and 4 stroke mx bikes need regular top end rebuilds, how often is defined by the manufacturer, a 4 stroke top end rebuild costs a lot more than a 2 stroke one as you need a cam chain in addition to the gaskets, piston and rings, but cam chains aren't as expensive as a piston and rings. Supermotos need more maintenance than MX bikes because they're flat out a lot more, they're harder on valves but the cam chain usually has an easier time in a supermoto as the engine speed is more constant.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

With a 450 supermoto on the road you'll be flat out a lot, it's why the engines don't last, the only MX bike I had that I could ride anywhere near it's limits was a YZ125, with a 250 I felt like I was tootling round in the mid range.

[formula400]

What do you think?
Do proper competition motocross bikes make good supermoto bikes on the road?

A quick google throws up something like this - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134880435987 ... p_homepage

It might then also be a good base for a GP45 style bike?

My CRF 450 was wicked, I bought it off Lawman for the place before here. I road reg'd it, bought all wheels and bit and watched my uncle fit most of it, took it to some place in Southampton to have a lighting kit fitted, was wank but did the job, rode it loads, loved it, took it from SW20 to Stonehenge and back in 1 day, it shit its self at Tolworth on the way home.

it was rough but loads of fun.

[ZRX61]

Buddy has a "road legal" Honda CR500 stroker... It hasn't been motarded & still runs pukka MX tires etc.

[KungFooBob]

Buddy has a "road legal" Honda CR500 stroker... It hasn't been motarded & still runs pukka MX tires etc.

I had a lowly Kawasaki 220R on non-road legal MX tyres, it was fucking hilarious on the road when it was wet. I imagine a 500 is like that in the dry!

[Yorick]

We rarely go on the road, but there's a couple of twisty road climbs we need to go up/down occasionally.
The lads are better than me enduro, but I clear off on the tarmac bits.
Can feel the front tyre really squirming and great fun, but takes the edges off the tyre.

[Pirahna]

Back in the VD days someone had a CR500 motard, I'd like to say it was Whysub but I really can't remember. I did meet a few of motard people at the White Hart in Puckeridge, the CR500 was there.