Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

[demographic]

There’s another thread for that.

Another news thread? Or do we have an ignoring genocide we're ignoring thread? Sorry I missed it.

You mean also ignoring the "From the River to the Sea" genocide bit? Sorry, I missed it. Two sides to every story, sunshine.

Indeed, this from Wiki...
"The phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians. The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[14][15][16] Similar wording has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians.[3] Some countries have considered criminalizing the slogan's use.[17][18]"

[irie]

Another news thread? Or do we have an ignoring genocide we're ignoring thread? Sorry I missed it.

You mean also ignoring the "From the River to the Sea" genocide bit? Sorry, I missed it. Two sides to every story, sunshine.

Indeed, this from Wiki...
"The phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians. The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[14][15][16] Similar wording has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians.[3] Some countries have considered criminalizing the slogan's use.[17][18]"

The HAMAS Covenant 2017 states:

The movement

1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

The Land of Palestine

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean [sea] in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

This ^^^ is explicit and perfectly clear.

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

[demographic]

You mean also ignoring the "From the River to the Sea" genocide bit? Sorry, I missed it. Two sides to every story, sunshine.

Indeed, this from Wiki...
"The phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians. The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[14][15][16] Similar wording has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians.[3] Some countries have considered criminalizing the slogan's use.[17][18]"

The HAMAS Covenant 2017 states:

The movement

1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

The Land of Palestine

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean [sea] in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

This ^^^ is explicit and perfectly clear.

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

You seem to be conflating Hamas with the Palestinian peopl and the several thousant children who have been butchered, thats a Zionist way of doing things and theres even quite a few Jewish people willing to put you straight on that one.
Mirriam Margoyles (sp) and Alexi Sayel being two of them.
Here's some Jewish people in Jerusalem who arent impressed with some Zionist policies.
[media] [/media]

As for this thread? It's interesting to note that we in the west seem far more bothered when it's white people under threat of genocide than darker ones. I'm sure you'll get over the occasional post yer not keen on candleshine.

[irie]

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

Fin.

[mangocrazy]

That's told your bad self...

[Horse]

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

Fin.

Fact?

[demographic]

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

Fin.

Fact?

Its kind of like a full stop, but with added Miss Piggy stylie "Hmph" thrown in for good measure.

Its absolutely the last word in last words.

[irie]

Fin.

Fact?

Its kind of like a full stop, but with added Miss Piggy stylie "Hmph" thrown in for good measure.

Its absolutely the last word in last words.

To put it in terms you'll be sure to understand, it's just like putting the last nail in and then walking away.

[Count Steer]

Fact?

Its kind of like a full stop, but with added Miss Piggy stylie "Hmph" thrown in for good measure.

Its absolutely the last word in last words.

To put it in terms you'll be sure to understand, it's just like putting the last nail in and then walking away.

Is that followed by a resurrection?

[Horse]

Its kind of like a full stop, but with added Miss Piggy stylie "Hmph" thrown in for good measure.

Its absolutely the last word in last words.

To put it in terms you'll be sure to understand, it's just like putting the last nail in and then walking away.

Is that followed by a resurrection?

Only if you're a very naughty boy.

[Cousin Jack]

To put it in terms you'll be sure to understand, it's just like putting the last nail in and then walking away.

Is that followed by a resurrection?

Only if you're a very naughty boy.

Was that a flounce? We haven't had a good flounce for ages!

[mangocrazy]

Is that followed by a resurrection?

Only if you're a very naughty boy.

Was that a flounce? We haven't had a good flounce for ages!

If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...

[Cousin Jack]

Only if you're a very naughty boy.

Was that a flounce? We haven't had a good flounce for ages!

If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...

Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.

[mangocrazy]

Was that a flounce? We haven't had a good flounce for ages!

If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...

Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.

Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.

[irie]

If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...

Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.

Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.

You should have told that to Hamas before it dug the ~300 miles of tunnels under the Gaza Strip.

Oh, and while on the subject of tunnels, one wonders how Hamas managed to dispose of the well over 500,000 cubic metres of dirt/debris resulting from the tunnelling without the active compliance of Gaza Strip residents.

[mangocrazy]

I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.

[irie]

I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.

But very handy tunnels to retreat into when you attack that "immediate (and hostile) neighbour ... armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets", kill over a thousand of them and take hundreds of hostages, and that neighbour gets mighty pissed off and swears to kill you for doing that.

Keep digging Mango, you're doing fine.

[mangocrazy]

I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.

But very handy tunnels to retreat into when you attack that "immediate (and hostile) neighbour ... armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets", kill over a thousand of them and take hundreds of hostages, and that neighbour gets mighty pissed off and swears to kill you for doing that.

Keep digging Mango, you're doing fine.

?? And your point is?

[mangocrazy]

So you flounced out of a thread because it transgressed your views on thread derailment...

If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.

Fin.

And then you un-flounced and decided that discussing Israel/Hamas in a thread devoted to Russia/Ukraine was all perfectly fine...

Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.

Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.

You should have told that to Hamas before it dug the ~300 miles of tunnels under the Gaza Strip.

Oh, and while on the subject of tunnels, one wonders how Hamas managed to dispose of the well over 500,000 cubic metres of dirt/debris resulting from the tunnelling without the active compliance of Gaza Strip residents.

This is clearly unacceptable behaviour measured by your own standards...

[irie]

So you flounced out of a thread because it transgressed your views on thread derailment...

I did not flounce, I said that this should be discussed in its own dedicated thread. You obviously disagreed and have continued here which is why I am doing the same.