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Yambo wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:10 am Some of you need to fuckin' wise up. The 'Brexity types' have fucked nothing up, they simply answered a question differently to you.

Brexit is a fuck up because the government, from Cameron's onwards didn't want to leave the EU and hadn't got a clue how to go about it.

Brexit is a fuck up of monumental proportions because of arsehole Remainers and you can include yourself if you want to.

You're bitter and twisted because some people had an opinion different to yours and the people keeping it nice and Brexity are the people who agreed with you.

You wankers, Remainders, are the problem. :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Ahh, well done for really showing up people with an excess of bitterness. Ahem. :wtf:

For the rexord, I actually really appreciate your posts on boatbuilding and woodwork. You have a valued perspective in those areas, I'm a passable woodworker (well people do pay me for it anyway) but know just a passing amount about boats cos I've not done any.

Politically we're a fair bit apart, thats allowed you know. Takes all sorts etc.
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It's an interesting perspective, the failure to implement a bunch of very obvious lies and pipe dreams is the fault of those who voted against them.
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It IS an interesting perspective.

IMO Brexit need never have happened IF our politicians had listened to the concerns of what became the Brexit supporters years before. We are a part of Europe, we want to be part of Europe, but we want to be different too, because our history is different. Common Market, yes please, Federation of EU, no thank you.
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We don't want you feelthy Engleesh peegs.
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Yorick wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:56 am We don't want you feelthy Engleesh peegs.
Oh shit he’s thrown his lot in with the Nattish Scotialists!
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:28 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:22 pm
Mussels wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:12 pm Plumbing is the worst, I bought a metric fitting made in the Netherlands. 32mm one side and 40mm the other but it still came with an imperial thread.
I'm pretty sure that's because the BSP (British Standard Pipework) is the de facto Euro standard. I buy lots of plumbing parts in France and all the feelthy furrin threads match perfectly with stuff I buy in the UK. Personally I'm very happy with that arrangement.

And British Standard Pipe thread’s commonest rival appears to be National Pipe, another threads-per-inch system, but American.
Yes, NPT is American. Not sure how much of the rest of world use NPT or BSP, but UK and Euroland are BSP. I'd be interested to know what they use in Philippines (where Mrs Mango hails from) as they've had Spanish, British, Japanese and American influences over the centuries.
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Yambo wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:10 am
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:17 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:05 pm

Is that secret code from Cumbria?
My guess is he means the damage now so clearly caused by the Brexity types is so extensive we don't need enemies.

Some of you need to fuckin' wise up. The 'Brexity types' have fucked nothing up, they simply answered a question differently to you.

Brexit is a fuck up because the government, from Cameron's onwards didn't want to leave the EU and hadn't got a clue how to go about it.

Brexit is a fuck up of monumental proportions because of arsehole Remainers and you can include yourself if you want to.

You're bitter and twisted because some people had an opinion different to yours and the people keeping it nice and Brexity are the people who agreed with you.

You wankers, Remainders, are the problem. :obscene-birdiedoublered:

:lol: :lol:

If only someone had warned the Brexity types just what a fuck up it would be, before they were hoodwinked and voted.

Still, they're the ones getting hardest hit by it.

:lol: :lol:
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:28 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:22 pm
Mussels wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:12 pm Plumbing is the worst, I bought a metric fitting made in the Netherlands. 32mm one side and 40mm the other but it still came with an imperial thread.
I'm pretty sure that's because the BSP (British Standard Pipework) is the de facto Euro standard. I buy lots of plumbing parts in France and all the feelthy furrin threads match perfectly with stuff I buy in the UK. Personally I'm very happy with that arrangement.

And British Standard Pipe thread’s commonest rival appears to be National Pipe, another threads-per-inch system, but American.
BSP and NPT are superficially similar, in that the TPI can match up, but NPT has the thread cut at a 60 degree angle (as is ISO Metric), whereas BSP is cut at a 55 degree angle (as is dear old Whitworth - BSW). Also most NPT threads are tapered, whereas most BSP threads are parallel (BSPP). Just to confuse matters BSPT (BSP tapered) threads exist as do NPT parallel.

The worst possible thing you can do is to mix BSP and NPT fittings on scuba diving gear. Very Bad Things happen if you do.
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I can get very anal here ;)

When I was a buyer at Lucas Aerospace, all screws had to be rolled thread, not cut thread ;)
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 am The worst possible thing you can do is to mix BSP and NPT fittings on scuba diving gear. Very Bad Things happen if you do.
The worst possible you say?

Does breathing air transmitted by connectors with mismatched threads cause you to commit genocide or something?
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:00 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 am The worst possible thing you can do is to mix BSP and NPT fittings on scuba diving gear. Very Bad Things happen if you do.
The worst possible you say?

Does breathing air transmitted by connectors with mismatched threads cause you to commit genocide or something?
I would invite sir to try it... :) You would realise the error of your ways when it was probably too late. Just about the time you started breathing high pressure water rather than air...
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Yorick wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:54 am I can get very anal here ;)

When I was a buyer at Lucas Aerospace, all screws had to be rolled thread, not cut thread ;)
I think rolled threads are considered necessary on big end bolts and wire wheel spokes.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 am BSP and NPT are superficially similar, in that the TPI can match up, but NPT has the thread cut at a 60 degree angle (as is ISO Metric), whereas BSP is cut at a 55 degree angle (as is dear old Whitworth - BSW). Also most NPT threads are tapered, whereas most BSP threads are parallel (BSPP). Just to confuse matters BSPT (BSP tapered) threads exist as do NPT parallel.

The worst possible thing you can do is to mix BSP and NPT fittings on scuba diving gear. Very Bad Things happen if you do.
One of the wanky-est things the old Meriden Triumph factory did was introduce an oil pressure light around 1968, using 1/8” NPT (27 tpi tapered) on the switch. They must have been expecting BSP (28 tpi) to be superseded by the American standard.

After about 6 months they changed it to NPS (not tapered). Fitting the wrong threaded switch and damaging the timing cover is almost more common than doing it right, on a 1970s Bonneville.
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JackyJoll wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:47 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 am BSP and NPT are superficially similar, in that the TPI can match up, but NPT has the thread cut at a 60 degree angle (as is ISO Metric), whereas BSP is cut at a 55 degree angle (as is dear old Whitworth - BSW). Also most NPT threads are tapered, whereas most BSP threads are parallel (BSPP). Just to confuse matters BSPT (BSP tapered) threads exist as do NPT parallel.

The worst possible thing you can do is to mix BSP and NPT fittings on scuba diving gear. Very Bad Things happen if you do.
One of the wanky-est things the old Meriden Triumph factory did was introduce an oil pressure light around 1968, using 1/8” NPT (27 tpi tapered) on the switch. They must have been expecting BSP (28 tpi) to be superseded by the American standard.

After about 6 months they changed it to NPS (not tapered). Fitting the wrong threaded switch and damaging the timing cover is almost more common than doing it right, on a 1970s Bonneville.
That is (was) a truly wrong-headed move. Just asking for trouble. Perhaps they had large stocks of timing covers they wanted to move on?
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South Africa files a case against Israel for genocide to the Palestinians.
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demographic wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:27 pm South Africa files a case against Israel for genocide to the Palestinians.
It will be vetoed by the USA. Lots of religious zealots in the US waiting for the rapture, and many believing a major war in the ME is a necessary precursor.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
demographic wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:27 pm South Africa files a case against Israel for genocide to the Palestinians.
It will be vetoed by the USA. Lots of religious zealots in the US waiting for the rapture, and many believing a major war in the ME is a necessary precursor.
Strange that the USA backed the vote against Russia attacking civilians in Russia yesterday but sit on their thumbs over kettling, then bombing civilians in refugee camps in Gaza. They don't seem to have much to say on the aggression/aggravation on the West Bank either. It's almost like they want to bring on the rapture. :eh:
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Yeah, I agree that the US will vetoe it, just as theyve already been doing.
That will shine a light on the hypocrisy but I'm not sure how much good that will do.

Just for the record, I'm not in any way shape or form excusing Hamas and the attack they perpetrated on Oct the 7th (was the 7th wasnt it?) but I don't feel thats a good enough reason to kill thousands of children and displace millions of Palestinians. Oh and bombing hospitals, supposed safe routes and so on.

I'm not against the peace loving Jewish people (would be a bit of a home goal for someone who's great grandfather was called Abraham Bloomer ;) ) but some of the Zionist stuff is bloody evil (IMO like).
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demographic wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:49 pm but I don't feel thats a good enough reason to kill thousands of children and displace millions of Palestinians. Oh and bombing hospitals, supposed safe routes and so on.).
War and all the reasons for war, are bad. But that’s what war is like- deaths of lots of people who don’t deserve it.
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Zionism is the root of the problem (IMHO).
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