Valencia MotoGP

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Re: Valencia MotoGP

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RIDER NAT TEAM TIME LAP SPEED
1 = Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) 1m 29.253s 73/86 330.5
2 ^13 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.028s 51/51 337
3 ˅1 Marco Bezzecchi ITA VR46 Ducati (GP) +0.093s 58/62 337
4 ˅1 Marc Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP) +0.171s 46/49 335.4
5 ^1 Raul Fernandez SPA Aprilia (RS-GP) +0.263s 58/64 333.7
6 ˅2 Alex Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP) +0.385s 53/56 332.1
7 ˅2 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA VR46 Ducati (GP) +0.409s 51/60 330.5
8 ˅1 Enea Bastianini ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP) +0.543s 53/56 333.7
9 ^9 Jack Miller AUS Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.648s 56/62 330.5
10 ^6 Luca Marini ITA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.703s 68/72 328.9
11 ˅3 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP) +0.717s 35/51 337
12 = Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.769s 59/63 332.1
13 ˅4 Joan Mir SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.798s 58/69 333.7
14 ˅4 Augusto Fernandez SPA Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) +0.824s 66/72 327.4
15 ˅4 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP) +0.899s 36/51 335.4
16 ˅3 Franco Morbidelli ITA Pramac Ducati (GP) +0.953s 60/69 332.1
17 ˅3 Johann Zarco FRA LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.030s 45/61 330.5
18 ˅1 Pedro Acosta SPA Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* +1.223s 70/70 332.1
19 ^2 Alex Rins SPA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +1.311s 45/54 330.5
20 ˅1 Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1) +1.512s 63/74 330.5
21 ˅1 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.723s 54/63 328.9
22 = Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +3.059s 8/17 328.9
23 = Lorenzo Savadori ITA ApriliaTest Rider (RS-GP) +3.431s 8/27 325.8
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Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:20 pm Young Pedro Acosta is currently ahead of 4 MotoGP race winners.
He was properly sideways at times, looked like he was really enjoying himself. He's looked like the closest to the next MM, hope he delivers.
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^^ Some impressive performances there
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:20 pm Young Pedro Acosta is currently ahead of 4 MotoGP race winners.
He was properly sideways at times, looked like he was really enjoying himself. He's looked like the closest to the next MM, hope he delivers.
Is it on telly ?

I'm sipping a few cold uns with a pal in the sunshine
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Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:34 pm
Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:20 pm Young Pedro Acosta is currently ahead of 4 MotoGP race winners.
He was properly sideways at times, looked like he was really enjoying himself. He's looked like the closest to the next MM, hope he delivers.
Is it on telly ?

I'm sipping a few cold uns with a pal in the sunshine
It was on TNT sport all day. Bit late now. Doh!
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:34 pm
Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:28 pm

He was properly sideways at times, looked like he was really enjoying himself. He's looked like the closest to the next MM, hope he delivers.
Is it on telly ?

I'm sipping a few cold uns with a pal in the sunshine
It was on TNT sport all day. Bit late now. Doh!
Dropped the missus in PB earlier and I'm on the lash now. Keeping out of the sun though
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MM93 just over a tenth off his qualifying time.

I'd love to see the bookie's odds.

The last 4 years have had worthy champions. But always one rider missing.

Next year will have a true champion IYSWIM.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:12 pm MM93 just over a tenth off his qualifying time.

I'd love to see the bookie's odds.

The last 4 years have had worthy champions. But always one rider missing.

Next year will have a true champion IYSWIM.
Bet Fabio is having a fit in his motorhome. Another year on the Yamaha.
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Remember MM had quite an off on Sunday, must still be pretty bashed up, which makes it even more impressive.

I still don't like him tho'
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:32 pm Remember MM had quite an off on Sunday, must still be pretty bashed up, which makes it even more impressive.

I still don't like him tho'
I didn't like him in Moto3 and Moto2 as he was favoured and beating the Brits.
But after his big crashes, he is mellowing and growing up.
He's got the winning mentality
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:22 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:12 pm MM93 just over a tenth off his qualifying time.

I'd love to see the bookie's odds.

The last 4 years have had worthy champions. But always one rider missing.

Next year will have a true champion IYSWIM.
Bet Fabio is having a fit in his motorhome. Another year on the Yamaha.
I expected a better showing from Morbidelli on his new Ducati,but there he was,still behind Fabio.

I couldn't help thinking Zarco's crash will be the shape of things to come in 24.
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:20 pm Young Pedro Acosta is currently ahead of 4 MotoGP race winners.
He was properly sideways at times, looked like he was really enjoying himself. He's looked like the closest to the next MM, hope he delivers.
Just saw a clip of him coming into the garage after the first run and as soon as he took of his helmet clearly said "Wow" to the engineers followed by a huge grin :mrgreen: :thumbup:
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Can you imagine the conversations in the Honda offices this morning

"I thought you said the bike was great and Marquez was the problem"

"errrrrrmmmm "
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weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:33 am Can you imagine the conversations in the Honda offices this morning

"I thought you said the bike was great and Marquez was the problem"

"errrrrrmmmm "
Which leads to the question - What on earth are Honda going to do now?
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
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Lutin wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:57 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:33 am Can you imagine the conversations in the Honda offices this morning

"I thought you said the bike was great and Marquez was the problem"

"errrrrrmmmm "
Which leads to the question - What on earth are Honda going to do now?
Whatever it is, it won't happen overnight. I foresee a period of wandering around in the wilderness for Honda and Yamaha, until such time as they start poaching European talent, big style.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:33 am Can you imagine the conversations in the Honda offices this morning

"I thought you said the bike was great and Marquez was the problem"

"errrrrrmmmm "
Alberto Puig is under no illusions. His reply when asked if he was surprised at MM being fast on the Ducati,he replied in his usual sarcastic manner,"was anyone surprised"?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Alberto Puig was shown the exit door soon. Like all of the top Honda brass he's tainted goods and MM's exit and speed on the Ducati has just reinforced that message. Honda have gone from all-conquering to dinosaurs in less than 5 years.
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I thought the rumour was Davide Brivio was heading to Honda.

Would be the smart move, he progressed Suzuki from nowhere to a championship with a good match of rider and bike development.
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crust wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:40 pm I thought the rumour was Davide Brivio was heading to Honda.

Would be the smart move, he progressed Suzuki from nowhere to a championship with a good match of rider and bike development.
Last I heard was he was intending to see out his contract at Alpine. But things can change very quickly in motorsport. He would be the ideal candidate for Honda, though.
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Valencia was as well organised for spectators as it has been the last two years.
No queueing to get into the car parks on Saturday or Sunday, and we were out of the circuit and onto the A3 motorway within 5 minutes of getting into the car on both days. No queuing getting the stands either, plenty of gates and staff saw to that. €15 for a programme though, and €10 for a pint of beer

Unfortunately, the usual party antics in Cheste on Saturday night were very subdued. For some reason, most of the streets were closed to bikes, and it has lost all the excitement and atmosphere. I won't be spending Saturday night yhere next year....