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Shouldn't social services be called in respect of calling a child 'Tiona-Jai'?
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Rishi Sunak: The time has come to cut tax
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67472117
Woohoo! Unfortunately I expect 'cut tax' really means not increase it as much as they wanted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67472117
Woohoo! Unfortunately I expect 'cut tax' really means not increase it as much as they wanted.
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You can't keep cutting tax and making up the shortfall by borrowing.
Well, you can but it's not the best way to run a country. Or is it?
Well, you can but it's not the best way to run a country. Or is it?
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Well, they've given the nod on the level that Council Tax can be increased by without consultation or objection. 5%Mussels wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:57 pm Rishi Sunak: The time has come to cut tax
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67472117
Woohoo! Unfortunately I expect 'cut tax' really means not increase it as much as they wanted.
So I don't expect local services to improve much, just get a bit more expensive.
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They literally make this stuff up and hope that the public don't understand it anyway and simply take some sort of positive message from it. Sunak is a hideous spectre of a PM with an empty plan, Hunt is telling bare faced lies and now it's ok to offer tax cuts funded by ghost economics.
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You can if you are a PM facing losing your job in 12-18 months. Either the tax-cut bribe works, and you get re-elected, or it doesn't, and it becomes someone else's problem.
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It’s the best way to get re-elected. Let the next guy worry about spinning the plates.
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Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:28 pmYou can if you are a PM facing losing your job in 12-18 months. Either the tax-cut bribe works, and you get re-elected, or it doesn't, and it becomes someone else's problem.
Clear cut evidence then that this Conservative government's priority is not what is best for the country.
I wonder why the media do not pick up on it. Maybe they don't care about what is best for the country.
I think Liz Truss should be brought back.
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I've said this before, they're either so bad that they mess it up through incompetence or they do it on purpose, I can't see of any other option.
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I can remember those when I was growing up and hadn't seen them for circa 30 years until we went to Madeira a few weeks back, seems to be en vogue there..
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I does, and the ratio is not good. It will get worse.
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Not disagreeing with you but ...
... what matters is the UK ratio relative to that of other comparable countries, particularly continental European.
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It is all the economics of madness. Debt near (or above GDP) might just be acceptable if we were investing in infrastructure that will pay for itself over the next 100 years. We are not, we are spending most on current account stuff that should be funded from current taxation.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
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Our children (and indirectly our grandchildren) are often party to this madness, fuelled by social media promoted victimhood and wokeness [sic].Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:11 pm It is all the economics of madness. Debt near (or above GDP) might just be acceptable if we were investing in infrastructure that will pay for itself over the next 100 years. We are not, we are spending most on current account stuff that should be funded from current taxation.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
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Ah, the sins of the fathers...Deuteronomy 5:9-10Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:11 pm It is all the economics of madness. Debt near (or above GDP) might just be acceptable if we were investing in infrastructure that will pay for itself over the next 100 years. We are not, we are spending most on current account stuff that should be funded from current taxation.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
Guess who made this mess?
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Enlighten us.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:12 pmAh, the sins of the fathers...Deuteronomy 5:9-10Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:11 pm It is all the economics of madness. Debt near (or above GDP) might just be acceptable if we were investing in infrastructure that will pay for itself over the next 100 years. We are not, we are spending most on current account stuff that should be funded from current taxation.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
Guess who made this mess?
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irie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:15 pmEnlighten us.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:12 pmAh, the sins of the fathers...Deuteronomy 5:9-10Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:11 pm It is all the economics of madness. Debt near (or above GDP) might just be acceptable if we were investing in infrastructure that will pay for itself over the next 100 years. We are not, we are spending most on current account stuff that should be funded from current taxation.
Basically we are spending more than we earn. And that is not sustainable. Our children and grandchildren will have to pay for it.
Guess who made this mess?
You're quite bright, I expect you'll work it out.
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Ha ha, typical cop-out.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:19 pmYou're quite bright, I expect you'll work it out.irie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:15 pmEnlighten us.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:12 pm
Ah, the sins of the fathers...Deuteronomy 5:9-10
Guess who made this mess?
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Says the chap who expected me to read umpty squillion pages of the Hamas covenant to back up a point he hadn't even articulated.
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