Electric bike recommendations

[Count Steer]

Hold on a second, 35kg!!!!

Oh yeah. 35 of your English kilograms. Got your attention now eh?

[weeksy]

Yeah but not in a good way I must say. That's a lump even with power.

I think it depends on your use for it. But we don't live in Amsterdam which I'd bet it was more designed for

[Count Steer]

Yeah but not in a good way I must say. That's a lump even with power.

I think it depends on your use for it. But we don't live in Amsterdam which I'd bet it was more designed for

Ah well it's a commuter, with chunky (heavy) tyres, so will suit English roads and can cope with the shopping etc. I think they're onto something with the design tbh. You don't want/need one but sooner or later somebody is going to come up with the 21st century Honda 50/90 and I think Yamaha may just have poked their cute little noses in front with this.

[Potter]

It's not really my cup of tea either but she's a girl and she likes the look and the way it rides, plus it's financed from the bank of mum & dad, so at the moment it's looking like it's high up on her list.

If I were a girl looking for a commuter then I'd go for a small electric scooter,

[Mr Moofo]

It's not really my cup of tea either but she's a girl and she likes the look and the way it rides, plus it's financed from the bank of mum & dad, so at the moment it's looking like it's high up on her list.

If I were a girl looking for a commuter then I'd go for a small electric scooter,

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less

[Mr Moofo]

Hold on a second, 35kg!!!!

Blimey - that's a chunk of dead weight - even with a battery

[Potter]

It's not really my cup of tea either but she's a girl and she likes the look and the way it rides, plus it's financed from the bank of mum & dad, so at the moment it's looking like it's high up on her list.

If I were a girl looking for a commuter then I'd go for a small electric scooter,

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.

[Mr Moofo]

It's not really my cup of tea either but she's a girl and she likes the look and the way it rides, plus it's financed from the bank of mum & dad, so at the moment it's looking like it's high up on her list.

If I were a girl looking for a commuter then I'd go for a small electric scooter,

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.

Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people

[Potter]

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.

Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people

Yeah it seems heavy for a bicycle, although it's massively lighter than any scooter or motorcycle, and she really liked how it rode - I suppose on today's roads a bit of weight, fat tyres and good suspension isn't a bad thing to help it cope with road surfaces, etc.

[Count Steer]

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.

Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people

It's a moped. It's heavier than a bicycle and lighter than a scooter. TBH it's not the bicycle I worry about when confronted by a random, barely in control, cyclist thundering down a footpath in the Surrey Hills...it's the momentum of the 35kg+ of rider.

[Mussels]

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.

Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people

Yeah it seems heavy for a bicycle, although it's massively lighter than any scooter or motorcycle, and she really liked how it rode - I suppose on today's roads a bit of weight, fat tyres and good suspension isn't a bad thing to help it cope with road surfaces, etc.

Mine weren't far off that weight, a step through will be heavier. It looks quite good to me, fat tyres are much better as long as replacements are easy to get and cheap enough.

[Count Steer]

Haven't done any research but it sounds like the battery is quite juicy:

630Wh 36 volt Yamaha battery powers you to a maximum assisted speed of 25km/h and a range of up to 120 km.

Wonder how easy they are to derestrict?

[Potter]

It's a moped. It's heavier than a bicycle and lighter than a scooter. TBH it's not the bicycle I worry about when confronted by a random, barely in control, cyclist thundering down a footpath in the Surrey Hills...it's the momentum of the 35kg+ of rider.

I could be wrong here as I'm not any kind of expert, but I think these are aimed at 100% commuter type use, I can't see anyone doing any serious off-road work on one - but like I said, I don't really have a clue.

I once got my daughter to come on a ride out when she had her motorcycle, we got a few miles in and I pulled over to see how she was getting on and she had this look that said "Why are we riding around on our motorcycles for no reason and no destination?"
She's uses her vehicles for the journey, not really for the pleasure of it - which of course led me to suggest getting the cheapest thing out there, which also led to a certain type of look...

[Count Steer]

It's a moped. It's heavier than a bicycle and lighter than a scooter. TBH it's not the bicycle I worry about when confronted by a random, barely in control, cyclist thundering down a footpath in the Surrey Hills...it's the momentum of the 35kg+ of rider.

I could be wrong here as I'm not any kind of expert, but I think these are aimed at 100% commuter type use, I can't see anyone doing any serious off-road work on one - but like I said, I don't really have a clue.

That's pretty much exactly where they pitch them in the blurb - city commuters, with chunky wheels because of the state of the roads. (My comment was really that an ejected rider - of anything really - weighing, say, 70kg - flying gracefully through the air at 20mph can do as much damage as a 35kg bike - if not more. ).

[JamJar]

Haven't done any research but it sounds like the battery is quite juicy:

630Wh 36 volt Yamaha battery powers you to a maximum assisted speed of 25km/h and a range of up to 120 km.

Wonder how easy they are to derestrict?

Probably not too difficult to derestrict but a bit pointless as you still have to ne able to pedal hard enough to go fast. Mine (as all ebikes are) is restricted to 25km/h and I am often doing more than that, the main advantage is that the e power is like riding in a pack so getting up to speed takes less overall effort.

[Taipan]

Most of Londons deliveroo riders run around on those fat tyred 500/750w ebikes. They all take a hammering in all weathers for sure. My F-i-L has a Fiido t1 750w and I was pretty gobsmacked at how quick it went up the hill i live on!

[Couchy]

It looks similar to the Fantic Issimo which is cheaper. There were some of these Yamahas at the bike show and as a commuter bike yeah why not

[MyLittleStudPony]

I'd worry TWOC'y lads would do a TWOC on it.

They seem to love those Sur Ron Bee things as far as I can tell, whenever I go to the big city.

[Potter]

I'd worry TWOC'y lads would do a TWOC on it.

They seem to love those Sur Ron Bee things as far as I can tell, whenever I go to the big city.

The Sur Ron Storm Bee is brilliant, unfortunately if I bought one now it would spend most of it's time gathering dust, I don't have the time or need for one, but as soon as I'm done being a jet setter my plan is to get a little part-time job locally and then buy a commuter scooter and that would be the one I'd get, I was super impressed with them at the NEC bike show.

You'd have to be very careful about getting it TWOC'd for sure.
We were in Manchester a few weeks ago and some youth came down the main road on one, fully balaclava'd up, obviously up to no good, but he was very talented, he had it up on the back wheel for about 300yds, then dropped it down and wizzed off down a side street. There were police on the street but they didn't even raise their eyebrows, chasing him would be pointless and probably career ending if he crashed and hurt himself.

I bet insurance is a bit pricey on them.

[Potter]

Cripes, just done an insurance quote on GoCompare for the Sur-Ron Storm Bee and the cheapest quote was £600 with a £1,500 excess or the next one was £1,061 with a £500 excess.
After that they're all north of £1,200.
That's a fifty year old bloke, licence for over thirty years, no points or claims, and living in a rural Lancashire village with a locked brick garage.

I added my daughter to the quote and the cheapest one was £1,466 with a £600 excess!

The TWOC'ers seem to have made these electric bikes an unrealistic prospect for most people, if you're a law abiding person then you're knackered, these bikes are only viable if they're stolen and ridden without insurance.

It's outrageous really, these are the perfect little things for youngsters to get to work on, but who can afford £1,500 insurance and the hassle of 'when' not 'if' it gets pinched.
The police don't give a monkeys and the government care even less.