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Re: Electric bike recommendations

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weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:45 pm Hold on a second, 35kg!!!!
Blimey - that's a chunk of dead weight - even with a battery
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Potter wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:20 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:15 pm
Potter wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:07 pm It's not really my cup of tea either but she's a girl and she likes the look and the way it rides, plus it's financed from the bank of mum & dad, so at the moment it's looking like it's high up on her list.

If I were a girl looking for a commuter then I'd go for a small electric scooter,
Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less
Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.
Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people
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Mr Moofo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:22 pm
Potter wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:20 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:15 pm

Not that it will hold any sway as she's not paying for it, but you could get a more purposeful , and not so "groovy so desirable" e-bike for a lot less
Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.
Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people
It's a moped. It's heavier than a bicycle and lighter than a scooter. TBH it's not the bicycle I worry about when confronted by a random, barely in control, cyclist thundering down a footpath in the Surrey Hills...it's the momentum of the 35kg+ of rider. :shock:
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Potter wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:30 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:22 pm
Potter wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:20 pm

Yeah no doubt, there are cheaper versions of most things we buy, but there are no pockets in a shroud.
She's still not properly decided yet.
Okay, I understand it looks funky. But it is 35 kgs. If she falls off it , it will kill people
Yeah it seems heavy for a bicycle, although it's massively lighter than any scooter or motorcycle, and she really liked how it rode - I suppose on today's roads a bit of weight, fat tyres and good suspension isn't a bad thing to help it cope with road surfaces, etc.
Mine weren't far off that weight, a step through will be heavier. It looks quite good to me, fat tyres are much better as long as replacements are easy to get and cheap enough.
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Haven't done any research but it sounds like the battery is quite juicy:

630Wh 36 volt Yamaha battery powers you to a maximum assisted speed of 25km/h and a range of up to 120 km.

Wonder how easy they are to derestrict? :D
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Potter wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:28 am
Count Steer wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:00 pm
It's a moped. It's heavier than a bicycle and lighter than a scooter. TBH it's not the bicycle I worry about when confronted by a random, barely in control, cyclist thundering down a footpath in the Surrey Hills...it's the momentum of the 35kg+ of rider. :shock:
I could be wrong here as I'm not any kind of expert, but I think these are aimed at 100% commuter type use, I can't see anyone doing any serious off-road work on one - but like I said, I don't really have a clue.
That's pretty much exactly where they pitch them in the blurb - city commuters, with chunky wheels because of the state of the roads. (My comment was really that an ejected rider - of anything really - weighing, say, 70kg - flying gracefully through the air at 20mph can do as much damage as a 35kg bike - if not more. :D).
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:14 am Haven't done any research but it sounds like the battery is quite juicy:

630Wh 36 volt Yamaha battery powers you to a maximum assisted speed of 25km/h and a range of up to 120 km.

Wonder how easy they are to derestrict? :D
Probably not too difficult to derestrict but a bit pointless as you still have to ne able to pedal hard enough to go fast. Mine (as all ebikes are) is restricted to 25km/h and I am often doing more than that, the main advantage is that the e power is like riding in a pack so getting up to speed takes less overall effort.
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Most of Londons deliveroo riders run around on those fat tyred 500/750w ebikes. They all take a hammering in all weathers for sure. My F-i-L has a Fiido t1 750w and I was pretty gobsmacked at how quick it went up the hill i live on!
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It looks similar to the Fantic Issimo which is cheaper. There were some of these Yamahas at the bike show and as a commuter bike yeah why not :)
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I'd worry TWOC'y lads would do a TWOC on it.

They seem to love those Sur Ron Bee things as far as I can tell, whenever I go to the big city.
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You're a funny guy.

The computer is confused as you're the first person to ever try and insure one.
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Potter wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:41 am I don't know if you were being serious or joking?
Oh :geek:
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I can probably count on the fingers of one elbow how many people buy and ride one of these drug dealer's delivery bikes fully legally.
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They are not e-bikes either, they are electric motorcycles.
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If I were to own one, I'd only do it fully legally with insurance etc. Obviously I'm off to a better start than most 'cause I've got a bike licence, thus I presume there's no legal question about my right to operate it - dunno though.

These kind of vehicles (and also things like e-scooters, Segways) always suffer because they don't really have a place. Too fast and powerful to be mixing it with pedestrians, too slow to be mixing it with 'proper' traffic. Then you get the fact most people are dickheads who fail to realise that hacking down a cycle lane at 25mph is stupid.

I don't have a solution :lol:
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Congrats. :)

First on the forum to own a proper electric :) i think so anyway.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:59 pm Congrats. :)

First on the forum to own a proper electric :) i think so anyway.
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McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:30 pm I can't remember if I've commented on this previously, but I've had a Zero SR/F for about six months now, and it's spaztronically good. In my forty years of riding it's the best and easiest bike I've ever ridden. Fast as fuck, 140ft/lbs of torque all available from the tiniest twitch of the throttle, the acceleration is relentless and almost unreal with no gear changes. My darling wife has na early new BMW S1000XR, R1250RS or KTM640 to choose from, and she nearly always nicks my Zero (if I'm not out on it,) it's that good, especially when doing IAM masters tests. She can hear what gear they're in so can tell whether they're doing IPSGA properly :) And you can fill up for free at Asda :)
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Only posts twicw a year :)
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Sounds like a wise fella ;)
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I was looking at the zero in fowler's last week, I reckon the DSR/X looks really good in the flesh and would suit me well commuting 45 miles a day. But at nearly £20k it's a non starter, and the salesman reckoned that price was £6k below list price 😂

https://zeromotorcycles.com/en-gb/model ... HFEALw_wcB