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Which way would you vote?

Conservative
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11%
Labour
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38%
Liberal
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11%
Green
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4%
Farage!
4
8%
Anyone but this shower
15
28%
 
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wheelnut wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:06 pm
irie wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:44 pm
wheelnut wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:15 pm
The fact we're an island is what's keeping migration to numbers that are a lot less than the rest of Europe are currently enjoying.
Our island is at the far end of the transit route.
A lot more choose to settle in France, Germany and Scandinavia than do in the UK.
Could this have anything to do with it?
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Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:16 pm If you want more money you HAVE to go into management. If you want lots more money you have to climb the ladder to senior management.

Sorry, but that is true, and will remain true. Choose not to be a manager, stay poor.
You're forgetting the contract market. It's not as lucrative as it was 20-odd years ago but still pays significantly more than permie wages.
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Yebut Greenie doesn't want to move, doesn't want to do managemnt, and won't work for banks or other firms that don't meet his ethical standsrds.

And he doesn't have any GCSEs..
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Alan Sugar doesn't have any GCSE's either.






They were introduced long after he left school, he might have an o level or something.
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https://www.radioexe.co.uk/news-and-fea ... -runs-out/

I’m sure someone will provide some benefit from Brexit. C’mon-speak up!

I’ll vote tactically. I don’t care for Starmer at all and TBH Labour are only marginally better than the Tories, but this current lot have to be buried.

I remember getting pellets for suggesting Boris J was an absolute arsehole.
‘He’s just doing his best’ etc.

We were right. Same goes for this entire party.

I predict the worst Tory result in generations. Or rather, I hope.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 am
The present government (and to a lesser extent the opposition) have delivered a shit show.
I've been saying this for years.I think the Tory's have been the worst bunch of self serving chancers we've had the misfortune to be ruled by in living memory & the opposition hasn't been able to hold them to account,even now Labour are at each others throat over Gaza & Israel,whilst north of the border,the SNP appear to be having a few 'issues'.
I've been saying it for years,I vote for the party that I think will do the least damage,sadly it's not a very optimistic view but I'm determined to vote as I think those in power would love to remove my right to vote given the opportunity.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 am
In the first year of covid I think BJ did about as good as anyone else could have done
At the start of COVID Boris did nothing. At the time I was laughed at for suggesting he thought he had a disease that killed the sick and elderly, turns out I was right. Have you not paid any attention to the COVID enquiry? Kill the sick and it's a win for the NHS, kill the elderly and it's less people claiming state pension and using health services.
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Governments that have presided over economic crises tend to lose a General Election.

I’m not sure how that would bode for putative future First Lord of the Treasury Sir Kier Starmer.
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Tbh, I thought BJ and Co did alright when covid kicked off. We were all worried, folk dieing outside hospitals around the world, we wanted our jabs ASAP and I think we did.

Those tv presentations with BJ, Hancock and whoever were hilarious, trying to explain to a live tv audience something they knew fcukall about. Van dam and the lady were good though. 🙂

I also think living in your own little bubble is best these days, looking outside it, isn't very nice. 😥
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 am
Docca wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:55 am
I remember getting pellets for suggesting Boris J was an absolute arsehole.
‘He’s just doing his best’ etc.

We were right. Same goes for this entire party.

I predict the worst Tory result in generations. Or rather, I hope.

In the first year of covid I think BJ did about as good as anyone else could have done, but he's a terrible manager and a complete dreamer, and in the end he MADE the whole lot unravel.

Etc….

FTFY.

He provided the most appalling example of how to behave to everyone else, and - guess what? - they followed.
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Sorry, btw - quotes went wrong.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 am In the first year of covid I think BJ did about as badly as anyone else could have done
FTFY. Missing the first 5 COBRA meetings because he couldn't be arsed, dismissing the evidence of mounting death tolls from Italy, 'let the bodies pile high', seeding care homes with Covid positive cases, delaying lockdown until the very last minute etc. etc. He could scarcely have done a worse job if he tried.
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Dunno about that last bit, he didn't advocate injecting yourself with Bleach or make out he wasn't responsible for the counties which didn't vote for him :D
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Everyone is still obsessing about Covid. Yes, it can be extremely nasty, yes, it kills people. So does measles.

We have a vaccine now, we had a vaccine very quickly, and it is fairly effective. Perhaps BJ was right, we should have done a Denmark, gone flat out on the vaccine and then got over it. Death rates from the UK are horrible skewed, if you had Covid and died then you were shown as a Covid death, even if you died of a broken neck.

I am probably high on the 'at risk' list, but I refuse to worry about this, it is here, it will be here for the next 1000 years. The annoying thing is we will be paying for the Covid economic fallout for the next 100* years.

* Some of you will, I will be toast long before then.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:47 pm Dunno about that last bit, he didn't advocate injecting yourself with Bleach or make out he wasn't responsible for the counties which didn't vote for him :D
He did profess the view that blasting a hair dryer up your nose would kill the virus, so not far off. Besides, he's not a Merkin.
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Here's the view of someone who had the misfortune to have worked with 4 Tory PM's :shock:



Guess which one he despises the most
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Bustaspoke wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:01 pm Here's the view of someone who had the misfortune to have worked with 4 Tory PM's :shock:



Guess which one he despises the most
i know I might regret this commet but I quite like Rory Stewart.
Can't see me voting Conservative just because of that but I still quite like him all the same.
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The thing about Rory Stewart is he's a bit odd but basically decent. Totally unsuited to be a politician.
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To me,he seems like a decent human,there aren't many politicians that I would say that about.
I wonder where we would be if he had won that Tory election leadership campaign?
I think his assesment of the 4 that went on to lead the country is similar to what most people would have concluded,no glowing write up's there.
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JackyJoll wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:19 am Governments that have presided over economic crises tend to lose a General Election.

I’m not sure how that would bode for putative future First Lord of the Treasury Sir Kier Starmer.
A persons real leadership skills are shown when they are put to a real challenge.

Anyone can lead or be led but it takes a real true leader to lead successfully in a time of crisis.

I wonder what the stats are on who was in power in the most significant times of crisis over the past century?