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[Potter]

Never has the Cenotaph, in its 103 years of standing sentry on Whitehall, been “defended” on Armistice Day by a Port Vale fan supping a can of Stella Artois.

“I’m here in case the jihadists get past the police, who’ll probably just let them through anyway,” said Ben Neale, 22, from Tunstall, Staffordshire. “If they do come, they’ll soon wish they hadn’t.”

As it transpired, it was some of his fellow football supporters and statue defenders, backed aggressively by elements of the far right, who broke violently through police lines, toppling over metal barricades, throwing missiles and temporarily forcing officers back as they surged towards the Cenotaph on the anniversary of the end of the first world war.

Many stated explicitly that they had travelled to Whitehall because of comments made by the home secretary, Suella Braverman, who, days earlier, had claimed that police treated football supporters – such as Neale – unfavourably compared to “politically connected minority groups”. “She’s the only one making any sense at the minute. We’re sleepwalking into a race war,” said a middle-aged man who said he was a Sunderland fan but did not want to be named. “Armistice is our day!” he added.

“It’s getting ridiculous, them taking our streets, attacking the Cenotaph,” said another man, a black scarf covering the lower part of his face.

Middlesbrough, Rangers and Nottingham Forest flags fluttered in the clear sky. Large numbers wore balaclavas and were clad entirely in black: the street wear of the ultra. Many were drinking heavily. Moments before the silence to remember those lost in conflict, a fug of cannabis smoke drifted above the crowd.

Utter morons, these absolute idiots could have sparked a major clash or even a full-on riot.

I probably wouldn't call them diehard racists though (otherwise they wouldn't be claiming Suella Braverman as their champion), they're anti-muslim, like the people complaining about the World Cup being in Qatar and regurgitating lies and myths.
It's ignorance and fear, invariably from low IQ types and/or people that simply choose ignorance as a life skill.

[DefTrap]

I'm not convinced these people are anti-muslim, not exclusively anyway. If you asked them theyd also be anti-semite, anti-forrin, anti-immigrant, anti-gay. And if you asked them what they -really- thought, they'd prefer it if women shut up too. But they love their mum and please can the world rewind about 70 years to when everyone knew their place.

[Taipan]

https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-se ... last-night

Eruption looking more likely, the town of Grindavik is in the firing line, looking at the projected magma Dyke location and google maps there's a chance the towns "shit farm" could be in the firing line. It could be a very smelly eruption.

Just saw on the news that there are fears they'll lose the whole town!

[Pirahna]

Braverman has been sacked.

[KungFooBob]

Who will stop the boats now?

[JamJar]

Why do you think she's a Labour Party member?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservat ... _of_Israel

After the Met published the photo she was identified and named online, I didn't repeat her name as it's meaningless here* but she is a member of Eastbourne Labour party.

* And possibly untrue as the Labour bit might be as well but that's not so slanderous.

I'd wager that she won't remain a Labour member for long.

[Mr Moofo]

Never has the Cenotaph, in its 103 years of standing sentry on Whitehall, been “defended” on Armistice Day by a Port Vale fan supping a can of Stella Artois.

“I’m here in case the jihadists get past the police, who’ll probably just let them through anyway,” said Ben Neale, 22, from Tunstall, Staffordshire. “If they do come, they’ll soon wish they hadn’t.”

As it transpired, it was some of his fellow football supporters and statue defenders, backed aggressively by elements of the far right, who broke violently through police lines, toppling over metal barricades, throwing missiles and temporarily forcing officers back as they surged towards the Cenotaph on the anniversary of the end of the first world war.

Many stated explicitly that they had travelled to Whitehall because of comments made by the home secretary, Suella Braverman, who, days earlier, had claimed that police treated football supporters – such as Neale – unfavourably compared to “politically connected minority groups”. “She’s the only one making any sense at the minute. We’re sleepwalking into a race war,” said a middle-aged man who said he was a Sunderland fan but did not want to be named. “Armistice is our day!” he added.

“It’s getting ridiculous, them taking our streets, attacking the Cenotaph,” said another man, a black scarf covering the lower part of his face.

Middlesbrough, Rangers and Nottingham Forest flags fluttered in the clear sky. Large numbers wore balaclavas and were clad entirely in black: the street wear of the ultra. Many were drinking heavily. Moments before the silence to remember those lost in conflict, a fug of cannabis smoke drifted above the crowd.

The Master Race - yer having a laugh!

[Mr Moofo]

https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-se ... last-night

Eruption looking more likely, the town of Grindavik is in the firing line, looking at the projected magma Dyke location and google maps there's a chance the towns "shit farm" could be in the firing line. It could be a very smelly eruption.

Is it going to close down the airspace of Europe and NA?

[JamJar]

Braverman has been sacked.

We should have a whip round and buy her a tent.

[demographic]

Braverman has been sacked.

Maybe if Sunak tels her to keep her head down or have the whip removed she might calm her vile rhetoric down. Its just her trying to make a name for herself amongst the far right and she's not gonna further her career in the party if she's out of the party.


The conservative lurch to the far right is weird, most of the votes to be gained are to the centre and even if they got every single vote that Farrages lot would otherwise get they it's not that many.

Theyve lost a lot of centrist votes to the Lib Dems (or whatever they call themselves this week) and the far right consistently gets just about fuckall seats.

[mangocrazy]

David Cameron back as foreign secretary (having been made a life peer). Didn't see that one coming...

[Mr Moofo]

Braverman has been sacked.

Maybe if Sunak tels her to keep her head down or have the whip removed she might calm her vile rhetoric down. Its just her trying to make a name for herself amongst the far right and she's not gonna further her career in the party if she's out of the party.


The conservative lurch to the far right is weird, most of the votes to be gained are to the centre and even if they got every single vote that Farrages lot would otherwise get they it's not that many.

Theyve lost a lot of centrist votes to the Lib Dems (or whatever they call themselves this week) and the far right consistently gets just about fuckall seats.

She is posturing for when Rishi steps down after the next election. The Tory faithful like her - her views may not be popular but do resonate with people who see the police as too soft on BLM and Stop Oil and the pro Hamas factions.
Ultimately, the cons are going to want want someone who can "lead" not just benefit themselves, whilst not being able to make any decision, and then lying about it when they did. Suella would appear to be different to Boris. I don't like her - but she at least has the balls to say what she believes in an and stick by it.
However the timing of the police comments pre Armistice Day were calculated and conniving. She wanted to be seen as challenging Rishi

[wheelnut]

She is posturing for when Rishi steps down after the next election. The Tory faithful like her - her views may not be popular but do resonate with people who see the police as too soft on BLM and Stop Oil and the pro Hamas factions.
Ultimately, the cons are going to want want someone who can "lead" not just benefit themselves, whilst not being able to make any decision, and then lying about it when they did. Suella would appear to be different to Boris. I don't like her - but she at least has the balls to say what she believes in an and stick by it.
However the timing of the police comments pre Armistice Day were calculated and conniving. She wanted to be seen as challenging Rishi

The conseratives are doing what they do best, concentrating on in-fighting with governing the country coming a poor second.

[Potter]

I'm not convinced these people are anti-muslim, not exclusively anyway. If you asked them theyd also be anti-semite, anti-forrin, anti-immigrant, anti-gay. And if you asked them what they -really- thought, they'd prefer it if women shut up too. But they love their mum and please can the world rewind about 70 years to when everyone knew their place.

Hatey people tend to hate whomever suits at the time.
It'll be trans people, then the Jews, then the Muslims when it suits them, etc.

[Noggin]

David Cameron back as foreign secretary (having been made a life peer). Didn't see that one coming...

WTAF ?????

This just doesn't get better does it

[MingtheMerciless]

https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-se ... last-night

Eruption looking more likely, the town of Grindavik is in the firing line, looking at the projected magma Dyke location and google maps there's a chance the towns "shit farm" could be in the firing line. It could be a very smelly eruption.

Is it going to close down the airspace of Europe and NA?

I'm a very amateur geologist but past eruptions of this type are long fissure type eruptions that have beautiful fire fountains of lava over a series of fissures. Very pretty to look at, obviously devastating if your property is close by but usually not to wide spread, lava flows from the fissures can go a long way, maybe flowing into the sea and blocking harbours but it is not usually a problem for air travel.

The Eyjafjallajökull eruption in 2010 was a problem as the lava erupted into glacial ice which then melted and boiled, vaporising the lava into fine ash and the water boiling to steam aiding the lofting of the ash high into the atmosphere where it posed jet engine issues (1litre of water when boiled makes many 1000's litres of steam, if I remember my chemistry o level correctly its around 22000L but maybe @Mr. Dazzle could give us the exact amount - thank you).

This is the reason the volcano going pop near Tonga last year was so powerful was the sea poured into the magma magnifying the blast as it boiled (phreatic eruption), some data suggesting the last blast was equivalent to 15MT.

The one caveat I'll add is that the south west end of the dyke may erupt under the sea so that could get a bit explosive but I don't think the volume of magma will be enough to make it a huge eruption.

[Yorick]

https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-se ... last-night

Eruption looking more likely, the town of Grindavik is in the firing line, looking at the projected magma Dyke location and google maps there's a chance the towns "shit farm" could be in the firing line. It could be a very smelly eruption.

Is it going to close down the airspace of Europe and NA?

I'm a very amateur geologist but past eruptions of this type are long fissure type eruptions that have beautiful fire fountains of lava over a series of fissures. Very pretty to look at, obviously devastating if your property is close by but usually not to wide spread, lava flows from the fissures can go a long way, maybe flowing into the sea

Longest one here is about 10 miles. From Timanfaya, into the sea at Playa Bastian. About 2 miles from here.

That was 1736 ish.

[mangocrazy]

David Cameron back as foreign secretary (having been made a life peer). Didn't see that one coming...

WTAF ?????

This just doesn't get better does it

I'm more than a bit puzzled by it. I can think of a number of reasons, some of which conflict...

1. There simply isn't the depth of talent in the Tory party any more, evidenced by some of the 'scraping the barrel' selections.
2. Cameron wants to get back in and he's spotted a suitable opening. I think long term he still wants the top job back.
3. Sunak wants to make his cabinet look more grown up and moderate. It also might be an olive branch to the few remainers left.

But on the minus side, Cameron initiated the Brexit referendum (and campaigned for Remain), is heavily associated with austerity and he in no way represents a break from the past. Truth is, you really couldn't write this script. It's like a snake eating its own tail.

<edit> and I completely forgot about the Greensill Capital fiasco and Dodgy Dave's part in it...

[JackyJoll]

Braverman has been sacked.

We should have a whip round and buy her a tent.

Only if that’s her lifestyle choice.

[mangocrazy]

Braverman has been sacked.

We should have a whip round and buy her a tent.

Then take it off her.