The title of Not Always Evenly Distributed Sense wasn't as catchy admittedly.Skub wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:37 pmYeahbutt,that's kinda like common sense,ie not common.demographic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:24 pm I kind of thought that putting a little effort in to lessen the risk of spreading viruses just came with the territory of not being a dick
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demographic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:24 pmI kind of thought that putting a little effort in to lessen the risk of spreading viruses just came with the territory of not being a dickNoggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:36 am I see a few people wearing them here - generally when they have a cold or think they have a virus. Ok, most have been medical people who I've gone to see, but there have been some others (not recently as I've not been off the mountain for a few weeks!)
Personally, I do think that it's kind of cool that if someone has a cold or virus they are willing to wear a mask to try and reduce the chance of sharing whatever they have!!
Guess not if people see someone wearing a mask of any sort and immediately think the mask wearer is a dick?
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I agree with you. It was someone else who called the guy 'speshal' (sorry, he didn't all him a dick, but might as well have done)Potter wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:26 amI wouldn't argue (or even suggest) that wearers of masks are dicks, but it wasn't so long ago that we had people hounded in the streets by hysterical people for not wearing masks, whilst the jury is still out on whether they're actually effective or not.Noggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:56 pmdemographic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:24 pm
I kind of thought that putting a little effort in to lessen the risk of spreading viruses just came with the territory of not being a dick
Guess not if people see someone wearing a mask of any sort and immediately think the mask wearer is a dick?
So as with most things, a bit of common sense and compassion is warranted, I personally witnessed a panic attack from a colleague when we were forced to wear a mask inside and he felt like he was suffocating, his Fitbit showed his heart rate went from 60-something to 170-something whilst he was sat right next to me in a meeting. I had to physically help him outside so he could remove the mask.
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I called the bloke "speshal" because he must have known that the mask he was wearing was quite obviously completely ineffective at filtering out viruses.Noggin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:09 amI agree with you. It was someone else who called the guy 'speshal' (sorry, he didn't all him a dick, but might as well have done)Potter wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:26 amI wouldn't argue (or even suggest) that wearers of masks are dicks, but it wasn't so long ago that we had people hounded in the streets by hysterical people for not wearing masks, whilst the jury is still out on whether they're actually effective or not.
So as with most things, a bit of common sense and compassion is warranted, I personally witnessed a panic attack from a colleague when we were forced to wear a mask inside and he felt like he was suffocating, his Fitbit showed his heart rate went from 60-something to 170-something whilst he was sat right next to me in a meeting. I had to physically help him outside so he could remove the mask.
As to "the jury is still out on whether they're [masks] actually effective or not", there is a large body of objective scientific investigation into the efficacy of different types of masks in filtering the inhalation and exhalation of viruses, much publicised during the Covid pandemic. Google is your friend.
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I think the evidence of the efficacy of mask usage is spurious and dependant on so many additional factors, not worth going into again in depth. The main reason for not wearing one, let's be honest, is "I don't want to wear one". The better solution is to quarantine the contagious, but how do you enforce that ? And it's not really sustainable anyway given the longevity of remaining contagious.
I didn't get COVID til long after it dominated the evening news and I definitely got it from some selfish bastard on a plane who knew they had it but decided to crack on anyway.
I didn't get COVID til long after it dominated the evening news and I definitely got it from some selfish bastard on a plane who knew they had it but decided to crack on anyway.
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Must? Obviously?
As assumptions go, they're fairly substantial.
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I see a few people wearing masks and I have to say, to the untrained eye, they look like people who might well have immunity issues. Good on 'em I say, can't see the point in catching something that might kill you and if a mask might help, fine. I certainly wouldn't not wear one if I had an immunity problem just because it might make some ****it thinks I'm 'speshal' or thinks Covid is some sort of hoax. Heck, if surgeons continue to wear them, despite the questions raised by the Covid deniers, I don't have a problem with folk wearing something that covers their orifices.
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If you had an "immunity problem" you would be well advised to wear a mask scientifically certified to filter out the viruses you are at risk of.Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:40 pmI see a few people wearing masks and I have to say, to the untrained eye, they look like people who might well have immunity issues. Good on 'em I say, can't see the point in catching something that might kill you and if a mask might help, fine. I certainly wouldn't not wear one if I had an immunity problem just because it might make some ****it thinks I'm 'speshal' or thinks Covid is some sort of hoax. Heck, if surgeons continue to wear them, despite the questions raised by the Covid deniers, I don't have a problem with folk wearing something that covers their orifices.
You evidently are unaware of why surgeons wear masks. As ever, Google is your friend.
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What evs.irie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:51 pmIf you had an "immunity problem" you would be well advised to wear a mask scientifically certified to filter out the viruses you are at risk of.Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:40 pmI see a few people wearing masks and I have to say, to the untrained eye, they look like people who might well have immunity issues. Good on 'em I say, can't see the point in catching something that might kill you and if a mask might help, fine. I certainly wouldn't not wear one if I had an immunity problem just because it might make some ****it thinks I'm 'speshal' or thinks Covid is some sort of hoax. Heck, if surgeons continue to wear them, despite the questions raised by the Covid deniers, I don't have a problem with folk wearing something that covers their orifices.
You evidently are unaware of why surgeons wear masks. As ever, Google is your friend.
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Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:52 pmWhat evs.irie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:51 pmIf you had an "immunity problem" you would be well advised to wear a mask scientifically certified to filter out the viruses you are at risk of.Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:40 pm
I see a few people wearing masks and I have to say, to the untrained eye, they look like people who might well have immunity issues. Good on 'em I say, can't see the point in catching something that might kill you and if a mask might help, fine. I certainly wouldn't not wear one if I had an immunity problem just because it might make some ****it thinks I'm 'speshal' or thinks Covid is some sort of hoax. Heck, if surgeons continue to wear them, despite the questions raised by the Covid deniers, I don't have a problem with folk wearing something that covers their orifices.
You evidently are unaware of why surgeons wear masks. As ever, Google is your friend.
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And, again, the same assumption but now broadened out to anyone fitting the 'if you ... ' criteria.irie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:51 pmIf you had an "immunity problem" you would be well advised to wear a mask scientifically certified to filter out the viruses you are at risk of.Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:40 pmI see a few people wearing masks and I have to say, to the untrained eye, they look like people who might well have immunity issues. .
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Ignorance is bliss.
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Misplaced arrogance is unbecoming of the child of educated parents.
Etc.
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This forum is so lucky to have so many qualified medical experts.
Never a hint of "I think" or IMHO.
Everything is slammed down as 100% fact.
Aren't we lucky ?
Never a hint of "I think" or IMHO.
Everything is slammed down as 100% fact.
Aren't we lucky ?
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Fact.
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Physical science only deals in "I think" and "IMHO" when there is inconclusive evidence. When something is proven beyond doubt it becomes scientific fact.
Then you're lucky.
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No such thing as a fact. Fact.
Or was it fairies?
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