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Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pmIt's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
Have I failed to leave my blighted homeland?
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"Individuals born within the country receive Israeli citizenship at birth if at least one parent is a citizen. Non-Jewish foreigners may naturalize after living in the country for at least three years while holding permanent residency and demonstrating knowledge in the Hebrew language."
Please come back in a couple of years time to tell us how it's going.
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Assume the answer to that is "yes'.JackyJoll wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:39 pmCount Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pmIt's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
Have I failed to leave my blighted homeland?
Assume the answer to that is 'no'.
Now explain what difference it makes.
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I knew there were some. I don’t know if you can apply, or did you have to be in at the start.
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As I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pmIt's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
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In Gaza, I’d probably have to do what the terrorists tell me, until that gets me killed.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:46 pmAssume the answer to that is "yes'.JackyJoll wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:39 pmCount Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pm
It's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
Have I failed to leave my blighted homeland?
Assume the answer to that is 'no'.
Now explain what difference it makes.
Anywhere else, I’d probably try to fit in and avoid the local Moslems.
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As I said, I don’t like it.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:48 pmAs I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pmIt's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
What would you do if you were Israel, after 7th October 2023?
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With due respect, I wasn't asking you Jack.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:48 pmAs I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pmIt's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
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Oh don’t be like that!Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:54 pmWith due respect, I wasn't asking you Jack.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:48 pmAs I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pm
It's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
Chat in the forum or get a room (without me).
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True, but this is t'internet. My twopenneth is incoming, get used to it.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:54 pmWith due respect, I wasn't asking you Jack.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:48 pmAs I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:37 pm
It's an interesting perspective. If you were a Palestinian, born in your homeland, what would you be doing right now?
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Ah. OK you've put a lot of thought into it.JackyJoll wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:51 pmIn Gaza, I’d probably have to do what the terrorists tell me, until that gets me killed.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:46 pmAssume the answer to that is "yes'.
Assume the answer to that is 'no'.
Now explain what difference it makes.
Anywhere else, I’d probably try to fit in and avoid the local Moslems.
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I don’t expect to “win” an argument. I’m trying to realistically visualise the situation.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:58 pmAh. OK you've put a lot of thought into it.JackyJoll wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:51 pmIn Gaza, I’d probably have to do what the terrorists tell me, until that gets me killed.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:46 pm
Assume the answer to that is "yes'.
Assume the answer to that is 'no'.
Now explain what difference it makes.
Anywhere else, I’d probably try to fit in and avoid the local Moslems.
Give me your comparative opinions.
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If I were Israel I would have negotiated a 2 state solution long ago. 7th October would just be another day.
Now it has happened it is even more urgent to agree a compromise, or it will happen again.
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That's fine but it seems whenever there's an intellectual knife fight on here the usual suspects turn up waving a spoon and claiming that they're deadly spoonists and hiding what they really are (usually just your common or garden racists) behind the light of their wondrous spoon.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:57 pmTrue, but this is t'internet. My twopenneth is incoming, get used to it.Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:54 pmWith due respect, I wasn't asking you Jack.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:48 pm
As I have said before, two wrongs do not make a right. Both sides have a 'valid' excuse, both sides are wrong. And innocent people are being killed, on both sides and by both sides.
I may have stretched that analogy a bit.
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You mean like the Oslo Acords?Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:08 pmIf I were Israel I would have negotiated a 2 state solution long ago. 7th October would just be another day.
Now it has happened it is even more urgent to agree a compromise, or it will happen again.
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I strongly refute being a racist, and I have NEVER, EVER been accused of being a deadly spoonist!
I will admit to stirring the pot occasionaly, but always in an equal-opportunty fashion. And usually when I really believe what I am writing.
I will admit to stirring the pot occasionaly, but always in an equal-opportunty fashion. And usually when I really believe what I am writing.
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A lot has happened since Oslo. Most of it has not been favourable to Palastinians.JamJar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:24 pmYou mean like the Oslo Acords?Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:08 pmIf I were Israel I would have negotiated a 2 state solution long ago. 7th October would just be another day.
Now it has happened it is even more urgent to agree a compromise, or it will happen again.
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