mangocrazy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 am
You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
Verified and verifiable? What does that mean? There are loads of news stories, but as stated in respect of the poppy seller that was assaulted, the police cannot find the people in the crowd that hit the old man, so what can they do?
I suppose this means that if no one has been convicted in a court of law then it can't be verified?
You're very keen on facts today, usually you completely ignore them
I suppose you could call the ex-military old man selling poppies a liar if you want to?
I just flicked the news on, to be fair the only problems so far have been from white supremacists, not entirely unexpected, they're probably sore from dragging their knuckles on the ground so much.
The Jew hater Corbyn is on the march now though, I think the only decent thing Starmer has done so far is cancel him and ensure that he's never near power again.
Potter wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:45 pm
I just flicked the news on, to be fair the only problems so far have been from white supremacists, not entirely unexpected, they're probably sore from dragging their knuckles on the ground so much.
The Jew hater Corbyn is on the march now though, I think the only decent thing Starmer has done so far is cancel him and ensure that he's never near power again.
I'm not sure that's what happened, although I expect it will later when the two groups meet up. The scuffle was apparently caused by the Met Police blocking the procession, from the embankment meet-up, from getting to the cenotaph as they were singing "England to I die". Of course MSM is putting a different spin on it! Let's see if the Met Police stop the Free Palestine group from getting to where their march is headed, y'know just to be fair like...
mangocrazy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 am
You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
Verified and verifiable? What does that mean? There are loads of news stories, but as stated in respect of the poppy seller that was assaulted, the police cannot find the people in the crowd that hit the old man, so what can they do?
I suppose this means that if no one has been convicted in a court of law then it can't be verified?
You're very keen on facts today, usually you completely ignore them
I suppose you could call the ex-military old man selling poppies a liar if you want to?
So you don't have a credible source; rather as expected. If roles were reversed you'd be howling at the moon for proof of any assertion.
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
Potter wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:45 pm
I just flicked the news on, to be fair the only problems so far have been from white supremacists, not entirely unexpected, they're probably sore from dragging their knuckles on the ground so much.
The Jew hater Corbyn is on the march now though, I think the only decent thing Starmer has done so far is cancel him and ensure that he's never near power again.
I'm not sure that's what happened, although I expect it will later when the two groups meet up. The scuffle was apparently caused by the Met Police blocking the procession, from the embankment meet-up, from getting to the cenotaph as they were singing "England to I die". Of course MSM is putting a different spin on it! Let's see if the Met Police stop the Free Palestine group from getting to where their march is headed, y'know just to be fair like...
It's ok, the thought police are making arrests.
BBC wrote:
Arrests were to prevent a breach of the peace, say police
We've just got an update on those arrests from the Metropolitan Police.
The force says a total of 82 people have been arrested on Tachbrook Street "to prevent a breach of the peace".
mangocrazy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 am
You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
Verified and verifiable? What does that mean? There are loads of news stories, but as stated in respect of the poppy seller that was assaulted, the police cannot find the people in the crowd that hit the old man, so what can they do?
I suppose this means that if no one has been convicted in a court of law then it can't be verified?
You're very keen on facts today, usually you completely ignore them
I suppose you could call the ex-military old man selling poppies a liar if you want to?
So you don't have a credible source; rather as expected. If roles were reversed you'd be howling at the moon for proof of any assertion.
This really goes to show how two people can read the same words and derive totally different conclusions from them. Here are the words in question:
Detectives have extensively monitored CCTV and spoken with key witnesses. There is insufficient evidence to take the investigation further at this time.
"We have no reason to believe that poppy sellers are at any risk or being intentionally targeted"
I'm at a loss to understand how that proves that he was the subject of a 'hate attack'. It states in plain English that after extensively reviewing CCTV footage and talking to witnesses that 'there is insufficient evidence to take the investigation further', in other words nothing to see here, move along.
If that piece of fluff is the best you can do, then I suggest you quit while you're behind.
mangocrazy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:32 pm
This really goes to show how two people can read the same words and derive totally different conclusions from them. Here are the words in question:
Detectives have extensively monitored CCTV and spoken with key witnesses. There is insufficient evidence to take the investigation further at this time.
"We have no reason to believe that poppy sellers are at any risk or being intentionally targeted"
I'm at a loss to understand how that proves that he was the subject of a 'hate attack'. It states in plain English that after extensively reviewing CCTV footage and talking to witnesses that 'there is insufficient evidence to take the investigation further', in other words nothing to see here, move along.
If that piece of fluff is the best you can do, then I suggest you quit while you're behind.
You’re using words that usually don’t apply to any of your arguments, like “prove”
An allegation was made and alongside documented damage to war memorials it seemed credible. You can choose to call him a liar, and to be fair it could be possible, you boomers will ignore the truth if it suits your political posturing, so we’ll have to see.
I'm not calling anyone anything (unlike your good self). I am merely quoting the words of a police report. If you choose to disbelieve that report and are still convinced there is a case to answer, then I'm afraid I can't help you any further.
mangocrazy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:06 pm
I'm not calling anyone anything (unlike your good self). I am merely quoting the words of a police report. If you choose to disbelieve that report and are still convinced there is a case to answer, then I'm afraid I can't help you any further.
What you originally said was that it was all in my imagination.
(Or perhaps that I was a liar?)
Now it’s been proven to be an actual documented police report made by a man who insists that he was assaulted but it still doesn’t suit you, so it’s simple, you either think the victim is lying or you don’t.
The police report said there was no case to answer, but that clearly doesn't suit you, sir. On the basis of the police report it does rather seem that it was all in your imagination or at the very least you wished it was true.
Well, well! Dozens of statue defenders arrested and the peace march allowed to take place in peace. This new head of the Met is so much better than the last one.
