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irie wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:59 pm Political parties are a fucking terrible idea.

I mean, they're a really good idea 'cause it allows people with generally aligned concepts to stand on a common platform and pool their talents.

But they're a fucking terrible idea in that they encourage this sort of malarky, politicians playing around with the country and our lives so they can be boss of their little club.
We have politics because in their absence the only way open to people who disagree is to physically fight each other.
It's one day at a time with dementia isnt it? Bad days and some worse days.
Could you possibly articulate in another language? That helps sometimes.
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For a while folk discussed things here.
Now back to the usual.

I'm right. You're wrong. Idiot ....

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Yet you keep coming back and poking the "idiots". Curious behaviour.
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Potter wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:01 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:59 am
To the best of my knowledge "Hitting old poppy sellers and vandalising war memorials" is merely a product of Potter's overwrought brain and is firmly in the realms of fiction...
I've only caught the news very briefly and it's been on enough times that I don't need to make stuff up, the poppy sellers were attacked and war memorials have been vandalised in the last few days, IIRC Rochdale was one of them reported on the news yesterday, a war memorial was painted with Palestine flag colours and sprayed with graffiti.

You must literally be in utter denial to anything that doesn't suit your very peculiar view of the world.
Nothing about denial, I just don't bother with 'news' that much. Whatever your view on a particular topic there is a news site somewhere that will reinforce whatever opinion you currently hold.
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demographic wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:09 pm
irie wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:59 pm Political parties are a fucking terrible idea.

I mean, they're a really good idea 'cause it allows people with generally aligned concepts to stand on a common platform and pool their talents.

But they're a fucking terrible idea in that they encourage this sort of malarky, politicians playing around with the country and our lives so they can be boss of their little club.
We have politics because in their absence the only way open to people who disagree is to physically fight each other.
It's one day at a time with dementia isnt it? Bad days and some worse days.
Could you possibly articulate in another language? That helps sometimes.
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The story is a fairly common Russian spy one, what got me was this bit. As if being arrested for being a spy isn't bad enough he was caught in a three star Great Yarmouth hotel.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/11/ ... urt-a83072
arrested in a three-star hotel in the seaside town of Great Yarmouth
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These poppy sellers clearly haven't seen the memo...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/poppy-sellers ... 01491.html
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https://www.herald.wales/north-wales/gw ... cam-fraud/
The incident had concerned an “advance payment” made to a person called Oluwafeni Odunuga.

It was said that this was “to carry out consultative work” for the council and an advance payment would be required.
A payment to "Oluwafeni Odunuga", what could possibly go wrong? :lol:
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mangocrazy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:51 pm These poppy sellers clearly haven't seen the memo...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/poppy-sellers ... 01491.html
It's a shame that the right wing press are desperately trying to make an unfortunate situation much worse and it's nice to see that the British Legion are resisting being sucked into it. There's some surprisingly gullible folk around.
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Pavement parkers days are numbered. I read its coming to the rest of the Lothians also and about time to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... e-67381938
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But it's already illegal to block a pavement by parking a car on it. Why not use that piece of legislation?
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DefTrap wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:52 am
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:51 pm These poppy sellers clearly haven't seen the memo...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/poppy-sellers ... 01491.html
It's a shame that the right wing press are desperately trying to make an unfortunate situation much worse and it's nice to see that the British Legion are resisting being sucked into it. There's some surprisingly gullible folk around.
It was reported that poppy sellers were assaulted, but, for those that struggle with thinking, this doesn’t mean all poppy sellers were assaulted. It’s like reading a report on a murdered person and then feverishly pointing at lots of unmurdered people to claim that murder is a myth.
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You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 am You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
There's two that hit the news this week, one was the bloke at Waverley Station in Edinburgh, police have dropped the investigation due to lack of evidence. The other was in Northern Ireland where a woman verbally abused a poppy seller calling poppies "badges for murderers".
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Pirahna wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:23 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:15 am You could always link to a verified and verifiable report of said poppy seller assault...?
There's two that hit the news this week, one was the bloke at Waverley Station in Edinburgh, police have dropped the investigation due to lack of evidence. The other was in Northern Ireland where a woman verbally abused a poppy seller calling poppies "badges for murderers".
OK - hardly evidence of a large-scale coordinated 'glacier of violent hate', though is it?

On the subject of glaciers aren't they a) really cold and icy and b) move really really slowly?
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The statue defenders are the real enemies of free speech

Why is the fear-zone right afraid to debate whether imperial figures are still national heroes?

Britain’s empire ended a long time ago. The fall of statues to slavers and imperial officers is an opportunity for the iconography of our public spaces to finally be brought into line with the democratic approach that has governed public life for almost a century. Protests in response to the Black Lives Movement create the exciting prospect of Britain properly reckoning with the empire it lost generations ago. In its place, they allow us to collectively create a shared national story to reflect and celebrate what, in practice, the country has been since the 1950s: a democratic, self-governing, multi-racial post-imperial society.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... ee-speech/

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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:35 am On the subject of glaciers aren't they a) really cold and icy and b) move really really slowly?
They also tend to inexorably creep forward generally not GAF about what tries to stop them. I think the analogy heads more in that direction...
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:44 am The statue defenders are the real enemies of free speech

Why is the fear-zone right afraid to debate whether imperial figures are still national heroes?

Britain’s empire ended a long time ago. The fall of statues to slavers and imperial officers is an opportunity for the iconography of our public spaces to finally be brought into line with the democratic approach that has governed public life for almost a century. Protests in response to the Black Lives Movement create the exciting prospect of Britain properly reckoning with the empire it lost generations ago. In its place, they allow us to collectively create a shared national story to reflect and celebrate what, in practice, the country has been since the 1950s: a democratic, self-governing, multi-racial post-imperial society.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... ee-speech/

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irie wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:46 pm If you destroy the past then you condemn those who follow to repeat it.
That's why we have so many statues glorifying Hitler and Napolean in this country after all :thumbup: