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millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm People who argue with staff at airport security about what they do or don't have to do in order to get through security.

"I fly through here all the time, I work in Norway and I've never had to take my shoes off before..."

1. It's their bat and their ball, you ain't getting on a plane without them letting you through

2. Had a fucking war kicked off in the middle east when you last came through security?

Read the fucking room man! You've got a group of orthodox Jews queuing up there and a group strict Muslims over there. I'm sure extremists on either side of the conflict would like to bring down a plane full of the other side's nearest and dearest in the name of whatever god is compelling them to be arseholes. Taking off your shoes to walk through a scanner is not exactly arduous.

Self righteous prick in front of me just wouldn't let it go. The security staff were super patient with him. It was me who lost my cool with him and called him out for being an ignorant prick and holding everyone up.
I forget to take my shoes off because I fly so rarely and some airports require it (Heathrow) and some don't (Lyon!).

But to argue is just being a massive Cuddly thing :roll:

Similar to people in queues of cars that argue with the gendarmes when told to go back on the motorway - FFS, who argues with a cop with a gun??!! Yes, it's a total bastard to have to go back on the motorway that's barely moving at walking pace, but they said do it, so JFDI so the rest of us (locals are allowed ot use the back roads!) can keep going!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Noggin wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:38 pm
millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm People who argue with staff at airport security about what they do or don't have to do in order to get through security.

"I fly through here all the time, I work in Norway and I've never had to take my shoes off before..."

1. It's their bat and their ball, you ain't getting on a plane without them letting you through

2. Had a fucking war kicked off in the middle east when you last came through security?

Read the fucking room man! You've got a group of orthodox Jews queuing up there and a group strict Muslims over there. I'm sure extremists on either side of the conflict would like to bring down a plane full of the other side's nearest and dearest in the name of whatever god is compelling them to be arseholes. Taking off your shoes to walk through a scanner is not exactly arduous.

Self righteous prick in front of me just wouldn't let it go. The security staff were super patient with him. It was me who lost my cool with him and called him out for being an ignorant prick and holding everyone up.
I forget to take my shoes off because I fly so rarely and some airports require it (Heathrow) and some don't (Lyon!).

But to argue is just being a massive Cuddly thing :roll:

Similar to people in queues of cars that argue with the gendarmes when told to go back on the motorway - FFS, who argues with a cop with a gun??!! Yes, it's a total bastard to have to go back on the motorway that's barely moving at walking pace, but they said do it, so JFDI so the rest of us (locals are allowed ot use the back roads!) can keep going!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
Manchester didn't require shoes to be taken when I flew out of there in September, it's changed since then. The security guard who gave me a very friendly pat down after I set off the body scanner (I explained, it's just like a penis...only smaller) confirmed they're on a heightened level of alert since all the "goings on in the neighborhood", as a friend living in the UAE described recent events.

But even without that, as you say, different airports have different requirements and it can even depend on individual security staff as to what they chose.

I have a clear wash bag and dedicated clear refillable bottle for shampoo, shower gel, conditioner, aftershave etc. that all go in the wash bag along with tooth brush and sponge and comb and everything else and I just haul the whole bag out and chuck it in the tray to go through the X-ray machine. Been fine for the last 15 or so times I've been through Manchester, until September when a particularly chippy young woman manning the queue told me I had to put all the liquids in a separate clear bag.

"Is that a new rule?" I asked.

"NO!" she barks "it's always been that"

"Oh" says I "because it's been fine for the last year and every time I've been through"

"No it hasn't!" she informs me "You've always taken your liquids and put them in a separate bag!"

At which point you realise that this is someone who isn't going to let facts get in the way of their opinion and it's a hiding to nothing to argue...
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millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Manchester didn't require shoes to be taken when I flew out of there in September, it's changed since then. The security guard who gave me a very friendly pat down after I set off the body scanner (I explained, it's just like a penis...only smaller) confirmed they're on a heightened level of alert since all the "goings on in the neighborhood", as a friend living in the UAE described recent events.

But even without that, as you say, different airports have different requirements and it can even depend on individual security staff as to what they chose.

I have a clear wash bag and dedicated clear refillable bottle for shampoo, shower gel, conditioner, aftershave etc. that all go in the wash bag along with tooth brush and sponge and comb and everything else and I just haul the whole bag out and chuck it in the tray to go through the X-ray machine. Been fine for the last 15 or so times I've been through Manchester, until September when a particularly chippy young woman manning the queue told me I had to put all the liquids in a separate clear bag.

"Is that a new rule?" I asked.

"NO!" she barks "it's always been that"

"Oh" says I "because it's been fine for the last year and every time I've been through"

"No it hasn't!" she informs me "You've always taken your liquids and put them in a separate bag!"

At which point you realise that this is someone who isn't going to let facts get in the way of their opinion and it's a hiding to nothing to argue...
As you say, things change and not just in dates but between airports!!

Absolutely everything was different between Lyon and Heathrow, so I probably seemed like a complete muppet at Heathrow on the way back!!

Lyon - leave laptop and everything else in the bags, keep shoes on, have a quick scan because my shoulder beeps, forgot to empty the water bottle and the security guard took it away, emptied it and brought it back!!!!

Heathrow - proper grumpy, shoes off, everything out of bags and cases, grumpy woman waving a wand around shoulder and continued to be proper grumpy when I explained the reason! LOL

A friend says that the Heathrow tech is about to be updated so you don't have to take computers n stuff out of hand luggage/cases! Proper confused I it did!! LOL


But also - sometimes there are complete dicks for passengers and sometimes for security staff. I operate under the banner of "be polite and smiles sweetly" to all in the hope that they will be kind!! :lol:
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Noggin wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:53 pm
millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Manchester didn't require shoes to be taken when I flew out of there in September, it's changed since then. The security guard who gave me a very friendly pat down after I set off the body scanner (I explained, it's just like a penis...only smaller) confirmed they're on a heightened level of alert since all the "goings on in the neighborhood", as a friend living in the UAE described recent events.

But even without that, as you say, different airports have different requirements and it can even depend on individual security staff as to what they chose.

I have a clear wash bag and dedicated clear refillable bottle for shampoo, shower gel, conditioner, aftershave etc. that all go in the wash bag along with tooth brush and sponge and comb and everything else and I just haul the whole bag out and chuck it in the tray to go through the X-ray machine. Been fine for the last 15 or so times I've been through Manchester, until September when a particularly chippy young woman manning the queue told me I had to put all the liquids in a separate clear bag.

"Is that a new rule?" I asked.

"NO!" she barks "it's always been that"

"Oh" says I "because it's been fine for the last year and every time I've been through"

"No it hasn't!" she informs me "You've always taken your liquids and put them in a separate bag!"

At which point you realise that this is someone who isn't going to let facts get in the way of their opinion and it's a hiding to nothing to argue...
As you say, things change and not just in dates but between airports!!

Absolutely everything was different between Lyon and Heathrow, so I probably seemed like a complete muppet at Heathrow on the way back!!

Lyon - leave laptop and everything else in the bags, keep shoes on, have a quick scan because my shoulder beeps, forgot to empty the water bottle and the security guard took it away, emptied it and brought it back!!!!

Heathrow - proper grumpy, shoes off, everything out of bags and cases, grumpy woman waving a wand around shoulder and continued to be proper grumpy when I explained the reason! LOL

A friend says that the Heathrow tech is about to be updated so you don't have to take computers n stuff out of hand luggage/cases! Proper confused I it did!! LOL


But also - sometimes there are complete dicks for passengers and sometimes for security staff. I operate under the banner of "be polite and smiles sweetly" to all in the hope that they will be kind!! :lol:
Different airports, even different terminals in the same airport, have different security scanners. Frankfurt's been the most modern/enlightened I've bene through recently. No limit on liquids, leave everything in your carry on luggage, leave all clothes on and stuff in pockets. Luggage goes through the scanner and you do the robot for 10 seconds in a full body scanner and then on your way....

Whereas UK airports seem, to a man, to be waaaaaaay behind Europe. Which is not exactly "quelle surprise!"...
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Stansted conducting a trial at the moment - leave all your shit in your bag and chuck it through. Easy peasy....
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millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:14 pm
Different airports, even different terminals in the same airport, have different security scanners. Frankfurt's been the most modern/enlightened I've bene through recently. No limit on liquids, leave everything in your carry on luggage, leave all clothes on and stuff in pockets. Luggage goes through the scanner and you do the robot for 10 seconds in a full body scanner and then on your way....

Whereas UK airports seem, to a man, to be waaaaaaay behind Europe. Which is not exactly "quelle surprise!"...
Lyon was basically like that - if the liquid had been in a proper water bottle, not a refillable jobbie it would probably ahve been ok (and thinking about it, I think he went off to test it, not bin it!!)

v8-powered wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:28 pm Stansted conducting a trial at the moment - leave all your shit in your bag and chuck it through. Easy peasy....
Soooo much easier!! :lol: :lol: Need Heathrow to get to that point too :D :D :D
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I just watched the Sainsburys shelf stacker taking the boxes of 2 cinnamon whirls (£1.55) off the shelf, opening them and putting the individual whirls into the fresh baked cinnamon whirl basket which sell at 95p each.
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McNab wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 pm I just watched the Sainsburys shelf stacker taking the boxes of 2 cinnamon whirls (£1.55) off the shelf, opening them and putting the individual whirls into the fresh baked cinnamon whirl basket which sell at 95p each.
The extra 35p is to cover the cost of the time it took that employee to open the box and take them out. :thumbup:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:12 pm
McNab wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 pm I just watched the Sainsburys shelf stacker taking the boxes of 2 cinnamon whirls (£1.55) off the shelf, opening them and putting the individual whirls into the fresh baked cinnamon whirl basket which sell at 95p each.
The extra 35p is to cover the cost of the time it took that employee to open the box and take them out. :thumbup:
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I was always under the impression that the ones in the open basket were fresher than the boxed ones. That said, covid put paid to me buying anything from those baskets.
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I suspect they are all made at the same time and put in the boxes in store?

I chatted to the guy in my local CooP about this once cause I'm curious about everything and anything :lol: CooP (or, at least, my local CooP) get theirs in frozen and bake them in store, then box them themselves.

Tesco do the same as far as I can work out. In fact Tesco actually sell the exact same pastries in their frozen state in bags. So do IKEA.

They're all made in the same factory i bet. I walk past one (Lantmannen Unibake) on my way to Tesco. Smells lovely.
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My B-I-L used to work in the bakery in Morrisons. All the cakes and most of the bread that were baked 'in store' were frozen and simply thrown in the oven. They did used to make some loaves, mainly for show, in the big mixer, but that went by the wayside years back.

He did recount one story about the deep fat fryer used for doughnuts, which had to get up to temperature. The thermometer had long since packed up, so to test it they were meant to throw a bit of bread in and see if it browned-up instantly. He said that most of the time they'd spit in it to see if it was hot enough to make the spit sizzle. :sick:
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Any fool knows you're not meant to put water in deep fryers.

Freezing gets a bad rap, but IMO freezing uncooked bread dough is pretty benign. All the best bread is aged for days before it's baked anyway.

Not in a freezer though I'll grant you ;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm Any fool knows you're not meant to put water in deep fryers.

Freezing gets a bad rap, but IMO freezing uncooked bread dough is pretty benign. All the best bread is aged for days before it's baked anyway.

Not in a freezer though I'll grant you ;)
I'll buy fresh (decent) bread and freeze it too. Buy a large sourdough loaf, put half into use, bag and freeze the other half. Fish it out early am to thaw on the day it's needed. It's :thumbup:
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I keep all the end bits and slightly stale bits in a box in the freezer, then whip em out for breadcrumbs or croutons when needed.

I bet ya Gremmers is partial to a nice bread/oil/toms/olive Italian salad too.
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gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:39 pm My B-I-L used to work in the bakery in Morrisons. All the cakes and most of the bread that were baked 'in store' were frozen and simply thrown in the oven.
Went to a Pizza Hut. Guess what they'd run out of ... ?

Frozen bases, delivered in boxes every week.
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Domino's, always fresh, never frozen. ;)

It's not fucking pizza mind you though :D It's just "Domino's"

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Horse wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:53 pm
gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:39 pm My B-I-L used to work in the bakery in Morrisons. All the cakes and most of the bread that were baked 'in store' were frozen and simply thrown in the oven.
Went to a Pizza Hut. Guess what they'd run out of ... ?

Frozen bases, delivered in boxes every week.

Pizza in this country...don't get me started.

We were stood in the middle of Bologna earlier this year, slap bang by the due torre, and we stopped for a slice of pizza at a little counter-serve shop. Fresh dough was being rolled out and huge pizzas being made fresh. As soon as they were out of the oven, they were sliced and didn't hang around for long, consumed by the locals (lots of students). Each slice was one euro. It was bloody lovely. We scoffed a slice each, then, as we still had beer in the bottle, we went back for a second slice.

And yet over here, a pre-frozen base pizza will set you back the thick end of £20. WTF? It's supposed to be a cheap snack...
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I used to do the I.T. stock systems at one of UK's biggest cream cake makers and everything they made was frozen instantly and recorded accordingly.
They had 3 months shelf life as frozen
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gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:04 pm And yet over here, a pre-frozen base pizza will set you back the thick end of £20. WTF? It's supposed to be a cheap snack...
We had a load of Baby Ds school friends + parents around for Pizza in the garden last summer (got a wood fired oven).

Unknown to me they've all got those Ooni ovens and were paying the absolute piss take prices Ooni charge for frozen doughballs. Something like £2 a shot for 150g of dough.

It's literally 20p of flour (at retail price too, Ooni probably pay <1p for the required flour), salt, yeast and water. So I sent them all off with a sliver of sourdough starter and I'm glad to say several of them are still going with it :D
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