Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
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Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Will he do a Bayliss ?
Top 5 I reckon
Place your bets
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10331 ... p-wildcard
Top 5 I reckon
Place your bets
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10331 ... p-wildcard
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
I'll stick my neck out and say podium. He really likes the circuit, he'll be on a full-fat GP23, he's already spent quality time on the bike, and he weighs the square root of fuck all.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
As a wildcard you have to assume he'll have been asked not to take points off any of the factory riders.
Who knows if he'll listen or not
Who knows if he'll listen or not
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
He hasn't ridden a MotoGP bike since 2018, apparently the ride height device can take weeks to learn. I'll give him last place if he manages to stay on.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
It's very hard to predict. He's had a couple of goes on the GP bike and hasn't disgraced himself. It'll be very interesting to see how he does. With the tech changed so much since he last raced a Motogp in anger,a top ten finish would be impressive.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
He was only 0.3s off pole on his first test ride. He seems to learn fast
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
He's riding this weekend at Malaysia.
I see him top 10.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10402 ... st-be-grid
I see him top 10.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10402 ... st-be-grid
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Dunno really.. it's a bloody tough field and getting used to a very different bike takes time.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
I didn't. When he was in MotoGP he never really achieved anything, so with such a long lay off from prototypes, and at his age, I'm hardly surprised to see him at the back.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
I think I got myself rolled up in the hype...westers151 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:23 amI didn't. When he was in MotoGP he never really achieved anything, so with such a long lay off from prototypes, and at his age, I'm hardly surprised to see him at the back.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Still time yet
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Yeah seen that and edited my comment.
I’d expect his time to improve and reduce the gap but whether it’s enough to make much of an impact who knows.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Back when Bayliss did his magic trick at Valencia, the MotoGP bikes were probably a lot closer to a production bike. Now they're so far removed from Proddy bikes, it's hard to jump on one and go fast straight away, unless you've come from the MotoGP circus where every class has rigid as hell bikes.ChrisW wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:34 amI think I got myself rolled up in the hype...westers151 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:23 amI didn't. When he was in MotoGP he never really achieved anything, so with such a long lay off from prototypes, and at his age, I'm hardly surprised to see him at the back.
Electronics now play such a big role that it takes time to figure out what you need in order for the bike to work. That goes both ways, as you'd need to do the same if you were going to WSB.
Sadly, unless he's up there challenging for the podium, that'll be the door closed for any WSB rider to try and get into MotoGP.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Well he's doing poorly/OK, Toprak was way off the pace... there's no-one else you'd consider giving a GP ride to anyway. No-one has come into the series and done anything half decent for a long long time now.westers151 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:19 am Sadly, unless he's up there challenging for the podium, that'll be the door closed for any WSB rider to try and get into MotoGP.
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
Perhaps he's just sandbagging?
No, I don't think so, either...
No, I don't think so, either...
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
I’m not really surprised at all he is that far back. Different tyres, completely different electronics and tech. The test riders are all normally near the tail end of the field (Dani was the exception) and they have way more time on the bikes than Alvaro.
If he gets in the points I would say he has achieved something but he won’t be happy with it
Interestingly his advantage in WSB with his tiny size isn’t working in MotoGP where aero is king and his top speeds are actually the slowest out of the entire field at 326 kph compared to speeds in the 333 kph by bigger riders like Pecco etc
If he gets in the points I would say he has achieved something but he won’t be happy with it
Interestingly his advantage in WSB with his tiny size isn’t working in MotoGP where aero is king and his top speeds are actually the slowest out of the entire field at 326 kph compared to speeds in the 333 kph by bigger riders like Pecco etc
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Re: Bautista MotoGP Wildcard
westers151 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:19 amBack when Bayliss did his magic trick at Valencia, the MotoGP bikes were probably a lot closer to a production bike. Now they're so far removed from Proddy bikes, it's hard to jump on one and go fast straight away, unless you've come from the MotoGP circus where every class has rigid as hell bikes.ChrisW wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:34 amI think I got myself rolled up in the hype...westers151 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:23 am
I didn't. When he was in MotoGP he never really achieved anything, so with such a long lay off from prototypes, and at his age, I'm hardly surprised to see him at the back.
Electronics now play such a big role that it takes time to figure out what you need in order for the bike to work. That goes both ways, as you'd need to do the same if you were going to WSB.
Sadly, unless he's up there challenging for the podium, that'll be the door closed for any WSB rider to try and get into MotoGP.
Pretty much this, it would take time for someone to get the hang of things before performing as well as they are capable of doing, some are quicker to adapt and some take more time before being good in the end up.