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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:57 am You'd have thought said Ex might have picked up on the fact someone was trying to kill him after the 2nd or 3rd attempt....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-67305278
A lesson there for us all. She applied herself, practised and improved, and successfully killed people.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... -on-israel
This is Nasrallah’s moment’: Will Hezbollah’s chief declare war on Israel?

Hezbollah’s leader will speak Friday on the Israel-Hamas war. What he says could determine whether the conflict spreads.

Lebanon is on edge in advance of Hezbollah leader Syed Hassan Nasrallah’s anticipated Friday speech on Israel’s war on Gaza, which residents and experts fear could inflame regional tensions if he pledges to escalate attacks against Israel.
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I like this judge.

The halfwit on trial constantly tried to claim she was above the law.
The judge kept slamming her down.
The law is the law

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67288289
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Some heart warming news for a change...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-67310766
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irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:40 am https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... -on-israel
This is Nasrallah’s moment’: Will Hezbollah’s chief declare war on Israel?

Hezbollah’s leader will speak Friday on the Israel-Hamas war. What he says could determine whether the conflict spreads.

Lebanon is on edge in advance of Hezbollah leader Syed Hassan Nasrallah’s anticipated Friday speech on Israel’s war on Gaza, which residents and experts fear could inflame regional tensions if he pledges to escalate attacks against Israel.
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DT/Reuters wrote: Weak Hezbollah speech shows who is really in charge

Hassan Nasrallah keen to please Iran paymasters as he keeps options open with 'nothing to do with me' speech

Hassan Nasrallah insisted the Oct 7 attacks on Israel were “100 per cent Palestinian”

There have not been many occasions like it, fewer still for the speech of an unelected cleric and militia leader.
Across the Middle East, people stopped to tune in to the pronouncement of Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah at 3pm on Friday.

Would he open a second front in the Israel-Hamas conflict, hurling the region into much wider conflagration, one that could in turn spark a new world war?

In East Jerusalem, the streets fell quiet during the hour-long speech, with only the rhythmic tones of Nasrallah’s voice emanating from thousands of mobile phones and radios.

In the end, as one social media user noted, it was a “nothing burger”.

The Palestinian receptionist at my hotel breathed a deep sigh of relief, along with many others in the region.
That so much could hang on one man’s word is truly terrifying.

Nasrallah kicked off by distancing himself, Hezbollah and - most crucially - his paymaster, Iran, from having anything to do with the Oct 7 massacre.

It was “100 per cent Palestinian,” he said, and it was planned in “great secrecy”.

“This great, large-scale operation was purely the result of Palestinian planning and implementation”.
In short, “It had nothing to do with me, guv,” he seemed to be saying.

He was conscious the Arab street was hanging on his every word; an awkward position for someone who, at one and the same time, wants to be seen as flying the flag of the Palestinian cause, while avoiding the decimation Hamas has brought upon itself in Gaza.

He got around this with the (largely) rhetorical flourish of claiming he and his Hezbollah fighters had been involved in the war since day two.

“Some claim Hezbollah is about to join the fray. I tell you: We have been engaged in this battle since October 8,” he said.

It’s true that skirmishes have been taking place in southern Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah since Oct 8, but both sides have so far been careful not to escalate things into all-out war.

Indeed, Nasrallah seemed more concerned about preventing a preemptive strike against Hezbollah in Lebanon, something that some in Israel’s military have been openly talking about once the war in Gaza is finished.
“I tell the Israelis, if you are considering carrying out a preemptive attack against Lebanon, it will be the most foolish mistake you make in your entire existence,” he said.

Nasrallah used another clever flourish to excuse himself from further involvement, lest his colleagues in Iran’s so-called “axis of resistance” feel let down.

“He said it was a war Israel can not win, something that signals Hezbollah’s intervention is not needed,” said Sima Shine, an Iran specialist and former Mossad intelligence officer.

Others at Israel’s Institute of National Security Studies, where Ms Shine now works, noted that it also meant Nasrallah was, to some extent, “leaving his options open”.

‘Hezbollah is their nuclear option’

Overall, the speech seemed to confirm conventional intelligence thinking in the region as regards Hezbollah and Iran.

That is to say, Iran does not want to lose its biggest and most powerful asset in the region, lest it be left without geopolitical leverage and a military deterrent against Israel.

“Iran has many proxies in the region but Hezbollah is their nuclear option”, as Ms Shine puts it.
Not everyone will be breathing a sigh of relief, however.

Nasrallah said the attacks against US assets in Syria and elsewhere in the region would continue.
This, said Ms Shine, was an indirect way of applying pressure on Israel for a ceasefire - something that might yet enable Hamas to survive as an Iranian proxy in Gaza.

Israel, however, seemed to anticipate that.

Just moments after Nasrallah wrapped up, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would not agree to a “temporary truce” without the release of all the hostages being held by the group.

He added a warning to Hezbollah, cautioning Israel’s “enemies in the north” not to make the mistake of escalating the war. “You cannot imagine how much this will cost you,” Mr Netanyahu said.
Looking today at Gaza, you would be a fool to think he hasn’t got a point - and Nasrallah’s no fool.
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Needs a précis.
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
In the end, as one social media user noted, it was a “nothing burger”.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
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irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:00 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
Why are you posting it though?

You post a C&P of the news saying a speech is coming, then you post some of the speech.
No commentary, no opinion, just cut & paste of a speech that we're all intelligent enough to read on our own without you pasting it here for us.

Posting with no point to make, again :crazy:
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am
irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:00 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
Why are you posting it though?
Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
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irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:38 am
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am
irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:00 pm
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
Why are you posting it though?
Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
One can also read all about it on mainstream news, the BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, etc.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:47 am
irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:38 am
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am
Why are you posting it though?
Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
One can also read all about it on mainstream news, the BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, etc.
As can one also read about everything on mainstream news in this thread which, curiously, is entitled "In todays news..."! :lol:
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Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless
The home secretary is proposing new laws to restrict the use of tents by homeless people, arguing that many of them see it as a lifestyle choice.

Suella Braverman's plan would introduce new penalties in England and Wales for homeless people whom authorities believe have rejected offers of help.

Britain "cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents," she said.

Housing charity Shelter responded that "nobody should be punished for being homeless".
Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
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irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:14 pm
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:47 am
irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:38 am

Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
One can also read all about it on mainstream news, the BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, etc.
As can one also read about everything on mainstream news in this thread which, curiously, is entitled "In todays news..."! :lol:
Indeed it is, but you might occasionally make a point yourself and discuss, instead of simply parroting what you've read somewhere.
N.B. this will mean you have to understand the subject.
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Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless
The home secretary is proposing new laws to restrict the use of tents by homeless people, arguing that many of them see it as a lifestyle choice.

Suella Braverman's plan would introduce new penalties in England and Wales for homeless people whom authorities believe have rejected offers of help.

Britain "cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents," she said.

Housing charity Shelter responded that "nobody should be punished for being homeless".
Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
She's playing to a particularly obnoxious gallery. If that's what it takes to trawl for votes, god help us all. :(
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm
irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:14 pm
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:47 am

One can also read all about it on mainstream news, the BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, etc.
As can one also read about everything on mainstream news in this thread which, curiously, is entitled "In todays news..."! :lol:
Indeed it is, but you might occasionally make a point yourself and discuss, instead of simply parroting what you've read somewhere.
N.B. this will mean you have to understand the subject.
It might also mean revealing where he actually stands on a subject too. That might be useful.
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:24 pm
Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless
The home secretary is proposing new laws to restrict the use of tents by homeless people, arguing that many of them see it as a lifestyle choice.

Suella Braverman's plan would introduce new penalties in England and Wales for homeless people whom authorities believe have rejected offers of help.

Britain "cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents," she said.

Housing charity Shelter responded that "nobody should be punished for being homeless".
Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
She's playing to a particularly obnoxious gallery. If that's what it takes to trawl for votes, god help us all. :(
Curious to know what penalty exactly you're gonna be able to extract from an unemployed, moneyless, homeless person.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:41 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:24 pm
Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless



Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
She's playing to a particularly obnoxious gallery. If that's what it takes to trawl for votes, god help us all. :(
Curious to know what penalty exactly you're gonna be able to extract from an unemployed, moneyless, homeless person.
You could commandeer their tent? I mean this excrement is our Home Secretary. I despair.
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Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice"
I agree with her, unless you have mental health conditions then it is a choice, I've been homeless and it was my own shit decisions that put me there and my own better decisions that got me out of it.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice"
I agree with her, unless you have mental health conditions then it is a choice, I've been homeless and it was my own shit decisions that put me there and my own better decisions that got me out of it.
Well boo rah for you. :roll:
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