I think Adrian Flux and Bikesure are the same people?Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:13 pmI used Adrian Flux for my Kawasaki (there isn't a standard part on it) and the price was pretty reasonable, about £250 from memorymillemille wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:16 pm I've just sorted out the insurance, which was one of those looking through your fingers kind of moments....
The Multistrada, in its original form, was insured with Bikesure and they also specialise in modified bikes so a few months ago I got them to quote for the bike with all mods declared. I was totally, scrupulously honest with everything that had been done and how much it would cost to replace and the quote I got was exactly the same as my current insurance costs.
I was sure that couldn't be right, I'd given them all the information they needed but insurance companies are notorious for seeking any excuse to not pay out/
So, I gave them a ring earlier and went through everything line by line. Engine? Yep, they've got that right. Frame? Check. Tank? Ah, here we go.
They'd got the replacement cost down as £700. Not £7,000.
There you go, now an extra £170 a year for all mods and a replacement value based on what it would cost me to build it again.
Not too bad at all.
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Adrian Flux are a parent company for loads of others who seem to be brand specific ..... Ducati Insurance is also an Adrian Flux company
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Frame is back from powder coat and tank has been filled and primed. I've got the next couple of weeks off work and it looks like I'll be putting some time in on getting the rolling chassis back together.
I'm taking the tank back to seal the inside with Caswell sealer before it gets final paint.
In other news, I got an NIP for 36 in a 30 last week going through a camera a few miles away from work.
Not particularly significant, until you realise I've got three previous SP30 convictions within the last 3 years. Two of them from the same fucking camera as got me last week.
So, redefining irony with this, it looks like I'll be getting the Ducati finished around the same time as I get a six month ban...
I'm taking the tank back to seal the inside with Caswell sealer before it gets final paint.
In other news, I got an NIP for 36 in a 30 last week going through a camera a few miles away from work.
Not particularly significant, until you realise I've got three previous SP30 convictions within the last 3 years. Two of them from the same fucking camera as got me last week.
So, redefining irony with this, it looks like I'll be getting the Ducati finished around the same time as I get a six month ban...
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Far be it from me to be picky but how can you get done by the same speed camera 3 times .......... After the first time isnt that a huge clue to not getting caught by it againmillemille wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:35 pm
In other news, I got an NIP for 36 in a 30 last week going through a camera a few miles away from work.
Not particularly significant, until you realise I've got three previous SP30 convictions within the last 3 years. Two of them from the same fucking camera as got me last week.
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You'd think so, wouldn't you?
The camera in question is a couple of miles from work, on the way to the fabricator who did the tank with me. I probably drive past it 10 times a week. The offences are each about 9 months apart. I think it stems from complacency and the camera not always being active and me driving with the flow of the traffic rather than watching the speed.
Speaking to several locals they all chose not to use the road in question because of that exact camera.
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Spent a few hours at work this morning putting some time in on the Ducati.
Wahed the tank out and put it to dry in front of the big space heater so it'll be warm and bone dry for putting the Caswell sealant in tomorrow.
Got in with mating the frame the with the engine, but had one of those days where everything was going wrong. Took me 2 hours to get the frame on the engine and swingarm and get all the bolts in - don't know why but nothing would line up and working on my own made it doubly difficult - and then the bolt for the shock mount on the swingarm dropped inside the swingarm. So I've got to take it all apart again tomorrow to get the bloody bolt out of the swingarm and start again.
At least I got a chance to chuck the new air box in place and take some pictures...
I'm using the 1098 throttle bodies with Panigale inlet trumpets...
There's a machined aluminium adaptor plate between the throttle bodies and trumpets..
The air box sits on top of the adaptor plates...
..and the bottom of the air box will have holes cut in it that match up with the bores of the throttle bodies and the trumpets will sit inside the air box...
...and the airbox will be sandwiched between the two, fixing it in place. The air filters are MWR 1098 race items which have good dyno results and increase air box volume and seal better than the OEM style, full width, filter.
I need to turn up a hose fitting to connect the crank case breather hose to the air box...
..and fabricate a coalescer, basically a cage with stainless steel wool in, to sit inside the air box on top of the breather hose fitting to coalesce the oil out of the crank case air.
And I've got to pipe up the injectors and get the fuel hose out of the air box and do the same with the injector wiring.
Wahed the tank out and put it to dry in front of the big space heater so it'll be warm and bone dry for putting the Caswell sealant in tomorrow.
Got in with mating the frame the with the engine, but had one of those days where everything was going wrong. Took me 2 hours to get the frame on the engine and swingarm and get all the bolts in - don't know why but nothing would line up and working on my own made it doubly difficult - and then the bolt for the shock mount on the swingarm dropped inside the swingarm. So I've got to take it all apart again tomorrow to get the bloody bolt out of the swingarm and start again.
At least I got a chance to chuck the new air box in place and take some pictures...
I'm using the 1098 throttle bodies with Panigale inlet trumpets...
There's a machined aluminium adaptor plate between the throttle bodies and trumpets..
The air box sits on top of the adaptor plates...
..and the bottom of the air box will have holes cut in it that match up with the bores of the throttle bodies and the trumpets will sit inside the air box...
...and the airbox will be sandwiched between the two, fixing it in place. The air filters are MWR 1098 race items which have good dyno results and increase air box volume and seal better than the OEM style, full width, filter.
I need to turn up a hose fitting to connect the crank case breather hose to the air box...
..and fabricate a coalescer, basically a cage with stainless steel wool in, to sit inside the air box on top of the breather hose fitting to coalesce the oil out of the crank case air.
And I've got to pipe up the injectors and get the fuel hose out of the air box and do the same with the injector wiring.
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So many things to do and so much fine tuning of the assortment of parts to get it all to be just right
Do you ever wish you just bought a 2013 ish Multistrada with the same engine and power as your project and just added some suspension tweaking ?
Do you ever wish you just bought a 2013 ish Multistrada with the same engine and power as your project and just added some suspension tweaking ?
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On another level to a bolt-on Bertie such as myself.
Awesome work.
Awesome work.
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Not really. I rode a next gen 'strada, a Pikes Peak model, and it just wasn't right for me. The engine was awesome but the handling, and not something I suspect suspension tweaking would address and more the fundamental of the chassis design/geometry, didn't work for the way I want to ride.
If you go on the owners forums and fb groups anyone who's had old and new 'strada's rates the engine of the new bikes but the handling of the old ones.
So, in theory, mine will be the best of both worlds...
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I get where you are coming from on the engine as i love mine but also the handling on standard set up ones was woeful due to the soft settings, but i tweaked the suspension on mine which improved it a lot and that was without massive changes. I suspect though you ride yours a lot harder than i do and in a different way with the "big supermoto" comparison you make.millemille wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:37 pm
Not really. I rode a next gen 'strada, a Pikes Peak model, and it just wasn't right for me. The engine was awesome but the handling, and not something I suspect suspension tweaking would address and more the fundamental of the chassis design/geometry, didn't work for the way I want to ride.
If you go on the owners forums and fb groups anyone who's had old and new 'strada's rates the engine of the new bikes but the handling of the old ones.
So, in theory, mine will be the best of both worlds...
I, amongst others, am really looking forward to the end result
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Enjoying the thread and admiring your enthusiasm, but it begs the question, is this actually going to work, or be a very expensive paper weight?
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I'm not knocking you, i'd have been defeated many turns ago, but it seems to be very problematic with you countering all the time? I know these things aren't about the money, but is there a cut off with this? Can you reconcile what its cost you to what you're ending up with?millemille wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:09 pmWhy do you think it's not going to work?
What have I missed?
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Not really...genuinely.
Yeaj there's a lot to do and a lot to figure out, but none of this stuff would be unexpected to someone of mm's obvious experience. Aside from the minor size issues - which you'd inevitably get when making 'by eye' - whats gone wrong reqlly?
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I'm an engineer, not just by training but by temperament, and I love it. I'm passionate about engineering, even if I won the lottery I'd still be doing some form of engineering. The build is as much enjoyment for me as riding the bike itself when it's done.Taipan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:01 pmI'm not knocking you, i'd have been defeated many turns ago, but it seems to be very problematic with you countering all the time? I know these things aren't about the money, but is there a cut off with this? Can you reconcile what its cost you to what you're ending up with?millemille wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:09 pmWhy do you think it's not going to work?
What have I missed?
I'm not tracking cost or time - I have to do that in my day job and have no desire, or need, to do it on my own time - so it will cost what it will cost and take as long as it takes. So long as there's money in the bank at the end of every month I'm happy.
In terms of problems, nothing has been insurmountable and most of it is going pretty much exactly as I had planned, in terms of method if not timescales, from the outset.
The tank has been the biggest issue and most of that has been caused by people, not the bike. The tank, and the amount of effort that has gone into it, has also changed my thinking about other area's of the bike. If the tank had been simpler and quicker to produce the carbon air box, for example, wouldn't have happened....
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Tbf, if you'd asked me how much it will cost to make a tank for a unique frankenbike with no drawings I'd have guessed "at least 10k"...thats based on quite a lot of experience of doing unique or very low volume jobs in this sort of field.
So really, I don't think it's going too badly.
So really, I don't think it's going too badly.