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[Count Steer]

No doubt you have a solution.

The person with the solution should tell it to someone more important than us.

Amen.

But everyone on social media seems to know the answer. Or they just pick sides without knowing anything about history, the Middle East, politics, or indeed Israel/Palestine. None of which is intended as an excuse for what Hamas just did but frankly if people know nothing about history - including Nablus and Deir Yassin maybe they should clam up.

[irie]

What's happening now is also part of the struggle for regional dominance between Saudi (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).

Between 85 and 90 percent of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims.

Between 90 and 95 percent of Iran citizens are Shia Muslims.

You are aware, of course, of the divisions in the Israeli Jewish population too. The Hassidim, the Sephardis and the Ashkenazis for example? There are many 'ethnic' Israelis that aren't happy with the fact that their government isn't errm..local people by origin and resent having to do national service (and that some don't have to) but a common enemy helps keep it all together. It's complicated. No doubt you have a solution.

I am aware of the divisions, and especially how the fundamentalists drive the Zionist agenda.

As for solutions, I see none other than (messy) compromises which will merely kick the problem into the future.

Religions are cults.

They'll kill each other rather than compromise because each party has their own particular brand of sky fairy on their side,

I'm an atheist as you might by now have guessed.

[Cousin Jack]

What's happening now is also part of the struggle for regional dominance between Saudi (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).

Between 85 and 90 percent of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims.

Between 90 and 95 percent of Iran citizens are Shia Muslims.

What did Mahomed have to say about genocide between Islam factions?

[Count Steer]

What's happening now is also part of the struggle for regional dominance between Saudi (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).

Between 85 and 90 percent of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims.

Between 90 and 95 percent of Iran citizens are Shia Muslims.

What did Mahomed have to say about genocide between Islam factions?

Probably the same thing that the Catholic god had to say about genocide of other Christians or others yet to enter the faith. Your point is?

[Treadeager]

What did Mahomed have to say about genocide between Islam factions?

Nothing , because the factions split upon his death ( I believe.. or rather I don't ) . One half wanted to follow his teachings , the other wanted his family to run the show )

[Mr. Dazzle]

Nothing , because the factions split upon his death

Not a completely robust argument when the person in question was a prophet.

[Cousin Jack]

Ah, we are finally getting to it. Religions, all of them, are about people controlling other people. Sky fairies, aka myths and legends, are just an excuse.

Any person who professes a faith is untrustworthy or deluded, or both.

[irie]

What's happening now is also part of the struggle for regional dominance between Saudi (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).

Between 85 and 90 percent of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims.

Between 90 and 95 percent of Iran citizens are Shia Muslims.

And Hamas are Sunni?

No, Hamas is Shia backed by Iran and is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Also see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter

[weeksy]

Easy children, easy.

Let's not go all bonkers here hey. No one has stepped over any lines yet, but I can feel tension rising.

Take a breath before all of your next posts and remember the forum rules. Debate good, other stuff, not so good

[Dodgy69]

My garage floor had puddles this morning.

[Kneerly Down]

Let's not go all bonkers here hey. No one has stepped over any lines yet, but I can feel tension rising.

Any person who professes a faith is untrustworthy or deluded, or both

That's not 'debate'.
Line crossed, for me, so TTFN.

[Yorick]

Yeah. Today's news. Let's argue religion.

Muppets.

[JackyJoll]

What's happening now is also part of the struggle for regional dominance between Saudi (Sunni) and Iran (Shia).

Between 85 and 90 percent of Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims.

Between 90 and 95 percent of Iran citizens are Shia Muslims.

And Hamas are Sunni?

No, Hamas is Shia backed by Iran and is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Also see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter

From your link:

The Society of the Muslim Brothers (Arabic: جماعة الإخوان المسلمين Jamāʿat al-Ikhwān al-Muslimīn), better known as the Muslim Brotherhood (الإخوان المسلمون al-Ikhwān al-Muslimūn), is a transnational Sunni Islamist organization

Also Wiki:

Hamas (UK: /həˈmæs/, US: /həˈmɑːs/ ⓘ;[45] Arabic: حماس, romanized: Ḥamās, IPA: [ħaˈmaːs]),[46] officially the Islamic Resistance Movement (حركة المقاومة الإسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah), is a Sunni Islamist[47] political and military organization

[Cousin Jack]

Let's not go all bonkers here hey. No one has stepped over any lines yet, but I can feel tension rising.

Any person who professes a faith is untrustworthy or deluded, or both

That's not 'debate'.
Line crossed, for me, so TTFN.

It is a valid opinion. Mine. Sorry to see you go.

[JackyJoll]

Let's not go all bonkers here hey. No one has stepped over any lines yet, but I can feel tension rising.

Any person who professes a faith is untrustworthy or deluded, or both

That's not 'debate'.
Line crossed, for me, so TTFN.

I suppose it’s not debate any more, once some schoolgirl storms off in a monumental moodie.

[Felix]

Yeah. Today's news. Let's argue religion.

Muppets.

You dont have to read it. (Hic)

[Felix]

Let's not go all bonkers here hey. No one has stepped over any lines yet, but I can feel tension rising.

Any person who professes a faith is untrustworthy or deluded, or both

That's not 'debate'.
Line crossed, for me, so TTFN.

It is a valid opinion. Mine. Sorry to see you go.

I dont mind folk having a faith. If having something they believe in what makes them feel better in life or lead a better life then great. Knock yourself out. Its not for me so dont try and push it on me (Ex Priest in the street) as that pisses me off.

[irie]

And Hamas are Sunni?

No, Hamas is Shia backed by Iran and is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Also see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter

From your link:

The Society of the Muslim Brothers (Arabic: جماعة الإخوان المسلمين Jamāʿat al-Ikhwān al-Muslimīn), better known as the Muslim Brotherhood (الإخوان المسلمون al-Ikhwān al-Muslimūn), is a transnational Sunni Islamist organization

Also Wiki:

Hamas (UK: /həˈmæs/, US: /həˈmɑːs/ ⓘ;[45] Arabic: حماس, romanized: Ḥamās, IPA: [ħaˈmaːs]),[46] officially the Islamic Resistance Movement (حركة المقاومة الإسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah), is a Sunni Islamist[47] political and military organization

You're right of course, it's Hezbollah which is Shia. But Hamas is supported by Iran which is Shia, you couldn't make it up - perfect example of my enemies enemy being my friend. They are united in wanting to destroy the greater enemy, Israel, then after that turn on and try to destroy each other.

[irie]

You're right of course, it's Hezbollah which is Shia. But Hamas is supported by Iran which is Shia, you couldn't make it up...

But you did just make it up

No, I was mistaken and fessed up. Not rocket science.

Oh.

[weeksy]

In fact I think it's time the Mods locked this again, the amount of nonsense being talked is off the scale.

That's not how it works.