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Potter wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:10 pm Well vive la difference.

Personally I find it perplexing and paradoxical that people that don't like work very much, don't try and earn as much as they can so they don't have to do it for so long. If I really didn't like work then I'd go for a massive salary so I only had to do it for a few years.
It's something to do innit.

In comparison to my other post, if you have nothing to do and not that much money to live life will come and grab you by both hands and wash you down the shitter before you know what has happened.

Living is all about having a purpose IMO but that purpose does not need to be monitised to be seen as a success, it's all about making a difference within the world and being remembered for doing something positive for others when people mention your name after your dead and buried!

Getting paid should just be a bonus!
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Greenman wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 pm
Potter wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:10 pm Well vive la difference.

Personally I find it perplexing and paradoxical that people that don't like work very much, don't try and earn as much as they can so they don't have to do it for so long. If I really didn't like work then I'd go for a massive salary so I only had to do it for a few years.
It's something to do innit.

In comparison to my other post, if you have nothing to do and not that much money to live life will come and grab you by both hands and wash you down the shitter before you know what has happened.

Living is all about having a purpose IMO but that purpose does not need to be monitised to be seen as a success, it's all about making a difference within the world and being remembered for doing something positive for others when people mention your name after your dead and buried!

Getting paid should just be a bonus!
And what's your purpose, how are you making a difference, who's going to mention your name after you're dead for doing something positive?
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Potter wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:10 pm Well vive la difference.

Personally I find it perplexing and paradoxical that people that don't like work very much, don't try and earn as much as they can so they don't have to do it for so long. If I really didn't like work then I'd go for a massive salary so I only had to do it for a few years.
I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
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Greenman wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:48 pm
Potter wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:10 pm Well vive la difference.

Personally I find it perplexing and paradoxical that people that don't like work very much, don't try and earn as much as they can so they don't have to do it for so long. If I really didn't like work then I'd go for a massive salary so I only had to do it for a few years.
It's something to do innit.

In comparison to my other post, if you have nothing to do and not that much money to live life will come and grab you by both hands and wash you down the shitter before you know what has happened.

Living is all about having a purpose IMO but that purpose does not need to be monitised to be seen as a success, it's all about making a difference within the world and being remembered for doing something positive for others when people mention your name after your dead and buried!

Getting paid should just be a bonus!
That's no good, at all. There needs to be some fingers pointed at someone to blame, someone who has done well for themselves, or the 'Tories'.

It must be someone elses fault.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:20 pm And what's your purpose, how are you making a difference, who's going to mention your name after you're dead for doing something positive?
That's the Catch-22 - how can you know whether you've been remembered for stuff you did when you're already dead?

Live in the moment - fuck worrying about your 'legacy'...
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:20 pm who's going to mention your name after you're dead for doing something positive?
His music fans. No wait
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Felix wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:52 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:20 pm who's going to mention your name after you're dead for doing something positive?
His music fans. No wait
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:22 pm
Potter wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:10 pm Well vive la difference.

Personally I find it perplexing and paradoxical that people that don't like work very much, don't try and earn as much as they can so they don't have to do it for so long. If I really didn't like work then I'd go for a massive salary so I only had to do it for a few years.
I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
And what will you be doing in your retirement?
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:22 pm
I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
This isn't necessarily aimed specifically at you, I'm just using it as an example because your sentence is concise - I think this is why people should have a mentor or some sort of life coach. Loads of people seem to be in the above situation, but it seems so contradictory to me.

I mentor people and if one said to me "I'm not so keen on work and I want to retire asap" then my advice definitely wouldn't be "You should just plod along in IT for 40yrs and see what happens".

I pulled up alongside this car a while ago, I saw he had his name on the side and I took a picture so I could look him up later.
We're all different and it's not a path I'd have chosen (or the car I'd have chosen) but he seems to be an example of someone that has figured out what he wanted and went for it, rather than saying he wanted it but then plodding along for 40yrs.
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Anyway, some wag will be along in a minute to accuse me of being too "sky blue thinking" or optimistic, so hey, how about those bankers, stealing your money from under your noses, they should 'ave laws against it, she'll be eating roast swan and throwing people out of their houses and no mistake.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:22 pm I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
Pretty much my view as well. As far as I was concerned as soon as I stepped out of the doors of my work place, that was it - work was over until I walked back in and it was my time. I never gave work a second thought until I was back in work premises. To me it was really important to make that mental demarcation and to absolutely not start defining yourself by your work.

I started in IT in 1974 and it was all pretty Wild West initially - anything went and consequently it was quite enjoyable. As the years rolled by the bureaucracy and paperwork increased (I still remember hearing the words 'Change Control' for the first time) and I was spending less and less time doing the actual job and more and more time jumping through hoops.

It got to the point that pretty much all the enjoyment had been squeezed out of the job and I was absolutely only doing it for the money when two things happened - I attended a pension seminar and realised I could actually retire and be financially comfortable and then Covid hit. In July 2020 I'd passed the 20 year mark of employment, taken all the benefits that went with that landmark and promptly fucked off into retirement. My leaving do was a Zoom call.

The first retirement project was to restore my 350LC to a decent state, and since then I can honestly say I've never been bored or at a loss for something to do. I really haven't given work a second thought and I have no remorse about letting my (particularly arcane) skill set atrophy and die. It belonged to a different era when Previous Me was alive. Present Me and Future Me have absolutely no use for it. The one skill I retain and use is basic project management skills; when planning a project I can figure out all the timeline/critical path/resources bollocks and get the job done. I really don't miss work one jot - some of the people, yes but not the actual work.

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BASC has written to Nikhil Rathi, chief executive of the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), to provide evidence of sector-wide discrimination by many high-street banks against over a third of shooting-related businesses.

Greg Smith MP, vice-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Fair Business Banking, said: “The Farage case of political debanking has only just blown the tip off the iceberg and it is now quite clear that there is widespread debanking going on for perfectly legal activities.”

Payment service SumUp puts on its website hunt clubs, distributors of guns, firearms and airsoft guns, munitions sales, escort services and fortune-tellers in the same bracket of undesirable customers. Almost two thirds of BASC respondents reported difficulties in opening a bank account.

https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/deban ... XEFJJfZMMA
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Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:35 pm fortune-tellers
You'd have thought they'd have known already.
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gremlin wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:49 pm
Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:35 pm fortune-tellers
You'd have thought they'd have known already.
They knew you'd say that.
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Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:35 pm Greg Smith MP, vice-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Fair Business Banking, said: “The Farage case of political debanking has only just blown the tip off the iceberg
So (as eny fule no) nine-tenths of an iceberg sits below the waterline. Having blown the tip off it, does that make the heinous act of debanking more or less visible to the casual onlooker?
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Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:17 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:22 pm
I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
This isn't necessarily aimed specifically at you, I'm just using it as an example because your sentence is concise - I think this is why people should have a mentor or some sort of life coach. Loads of people seem to be in the above situation, but it seems so contradictory to me.

I mentor people and if one said to me "I'm not so keen on work and I want to retire asap" then my advice definitely wouldn't be "You should just plod along in IT for 40yrs and see what happens".

I pulled up alongside this car a while ago, I saw he had his name on the side and I took a picture so I could look him up later.
We're all different and it's not a path I'd have chosen (or the car I'd have chosen) but he seems to be an example of someone that has figured out what he wanted and went for it, rather than saying he wanted it but then plodding along for 40yrs.
I know what I want, but I don't think anyone is going to pay me to ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women, never mind the £65K I get for being employed in IT doing a job that, from a technical perspective, is pretty easy, it's the being an employee part I find taxing, being polite to twats isn't easy, so working for myself would be worse (tried it, didn't like it)

What am I going to do with my retirement - ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:16 pm
Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:17 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:22 pm
I go to work for the money, no other reason, as soon as I can afford to I'm retiring.
This isn't necessarily aimed specifically at you, I'm just using it as an example because your sentence is concise - I think this is why people should have a mentor or some sort of life coach. Loads of people seem to be in the above situation, but it seems so contradictory to me.

I mentor people and if one said to me "I'm not so keen on work and I want to retire asap" then my advice definitely wouldn't be "You should just plod along in IT for 40yrs and see what happens".

I pulled up alongside this car a while ago, I saw he had his name on the side and I took a picture so I could look him up later.
We're all different and it's not a path I'd have chosen (or the car I'd have chosen) but he seems to be an example of someone that has figured out what he wanted and went for it, rather than saying he wanted it but then plodding along for 40yrs.
I know what I want, but I don't think anyone is going to pay me to ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women, never mind the £65K I get for being employed in IT doing a job that, from a technical perspective, is pretty easy, it's the being an employee part I find taxing, being polite to twats isn't easy, so working for myself would be worse (tried it, didn't like it)

What am I going to do with my retirement - ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women.
Works for me :D
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:16 pm
I know what I want, but I don't think anyone is going to pay me to ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women, never mind the £65K I get for being employed in IT doing a job that, from a technical perspective, is pretty easy, it's the being an employee part I find taxing, being polite to twats isn't easy, so working for myself would be worse (tried it, didn't like it)

What am I going to do with my retirement - ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women.
You'll be too old :lol:
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Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:01 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:16 pm
I know what I want, but I don't think anyone is going to pay me to ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women, never mind the £65K I get for being employed in IT doing a job that, from a technical perspective, is pretty easy, it's the being an employee part I find taxing, being polite to twats isn't easy, so working for myself would be worse (tried it, didn't like it)

What am I going to do with my retirement - ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women.
You'll be too old :lol:
He better have a massive pension
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weeksy wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:28 pm
Potter wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:01 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:16 pm
I know what I want, but I don't think anyone is going to pay me to ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women, never mind the £65K I get for being employed in IT doing a job that, from a technical perspective, is pretty easy, it's the being an employee part I find taxing, being polite to twats isn't easy, so working for myself would be worse (tried it, didn't like it)

What am I going to do with my retirement - ride motorcycles and make love to beautiful women.
You'll be too old :lol:
He better have a massive pension
Need a dramatic pause between massive and pension. :silent:
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