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ZRX61 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:56 pm
wheelnut wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:31 pm I think being a Jew is more than a religion, not sure it’s a race, but I would say it’s definitely an ethnic group.
It can't be a race/ethnicity because there are Asian, Black, White & Arab Jews. It's merely a religion, anything other claim is bullshit... unless you think I'd suddenly become black if I converted to Rastafarianism or Asian if I became a Buddhist etc?
I’m not sure that race and ethnicity are interchangeable terms, hence why I said not a race but an ethnic group.
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wheelnut wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:00 pm I’m not sure that race and ethnicity are interchangeable terms, hence why I said not a race but an ethnic group.
There's one race: Human, which is actually a species, everything beyond that is ethnicity.

If you you remove the "race" word from dividing people then *racists* can correctly be described as absolute fucking morons.
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I know I'm a cynical, old curmudgeon, but....

BBC News - Cost of living: Chip shop's £1 meal for struggling families
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66545453


I know the Beeb loves to play up on cost of living crisis stories, but reading this makes me wonder if a chip shop selling £1 meals to kids during the summer holidays is an accurate barometer of the economic situation.
Just throwing it out for consideration, but if the local kids get wind that a local shop is doing a decent lunch for a quid, they're gonna turn up in droves, as it's cheap as chips (pun intended).
By her own admission, the owner avoids 'red tape' by not asking if the kids are hard up.
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gremlin wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:01 am I know I'm a cynical, old curmudgeon, but....

BBC News - Cost of living: Chip shop's £1 meal for struggling families
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66545453


I know the Beeb loves to play up on cost of living crisis stories, but reading this makes me wonder if a chip shop selling £1 meals to kids during the summer holidays is an accurate barometer of the economic situation.
Just throwing it out for consideration, but if the local kids get wind that a local shop is doing a decent lunch for a quid, they're gonna turn up in droves, as it's cheap as chips (pun intended).
By her own admission, the owner avoids 'red tape' by not asking if the kids are hard up.
Marketing - innit!
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ZRX61 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:56 pm
It can't be a race/ethnicity because there are Asian, Black, White & Arab Jews. It's merely a religion, anything other claim is bullshit... unless you think I'd suddenly become black if I converted to Rastafarianism or Asian if I became a Buddhist etc?
Well the medical world sees race and ethnicity like this "In general, ethnicity has historically referred to a person’s cultural identity (eg, language, customs, religion) and race to broad categories of people that are divided arbitrarily but based on ancestral origin and physical characteristics".

I don't think I've ever seen religion identified on a case report form, probably because religious persuasion is of no help whatsoever. But I can quite understand that religious folk think of themselves by religion first and race, ethnicity, sex after.

However Baddiel is just a piss taker on the windup.
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And yet his success mocks everyone on here's failure.

Perhaps him getting a double first from Cambridge has something to do with that. It's hard to fail when you have a good degree.
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gremlin wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:01 am I know I'm a cynical, old curmudgeon, but....

BBC News - Cost of living: Chip shop's £1 meal for struggling families
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66545453


I know the Beeb loves to play up on cost of living crisis stories, but reading this makes me wonder if a chip shop selling £1 meals to kids during the summer holidays is an accurate barometer of the economic situation.
Just throwing it out for consideration, but if the local kids get wind that a local shop is doing a decent lunch for a quid, they're gonna turn up in droves, as it's cheap as chips (pun intended).
By her own admission, the owner avoids 'red tape' by not asking if the kids are hard up.
A chippy local to me back home does free chippy dinners around Christmas time, no questions asked. I think it's partially subbed by other local businesses and benefactors. Great idea. Crucially they didn't succumb to soundbite crappy journalism to determine how successful/ unsuccessful it was and turn it into a political drama.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:36 am And yet his success mocks everyone on here's failure.

Perhaps him getting a double first from Cambridge has something to do with that. It's hard to fail when you have a good degree.
He fails to make me laugh.
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JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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It is a bit violent, but it WILL act as a deterrent and they won't need to shoot many more. What is the point of an armed border guard if they are not going to repel/shoot unauthorized intruders? Come to that, what is the point of a border if you cannot stop said intruders?
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JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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Katie Hopkins's knickers will be wringing if she listens to that.....
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:54 am
JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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It is a bit violent, but it WILL act as a deterrent and they won't need to shoot many more. What is the point of an armed border guard if they are not going to repel/shoot unauthorized intruders? Come to that, what is the point of a border if you cannot stop said intruders?
Now that's the Brexit we all voted for.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:55 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:54 am
JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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It is a bit violent, but it WILL act as a deterrent and they won't need to shoot many more. What is the point of an armed border guard if they are not going to repel/shoot unauthorized intruders? Come to that, what is the point of a border if you cannot stop said intruders?
Now that's the Brexit we all voted for.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:54 am
JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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It is a bit violent, but it WILL act as a deterrent and they won't need to shoot many more. What is the point of an armed border guard if they are not going to repel/shoot unauthorized intruders? Come to that, what is the point of a border if you cannot stop said intruders?

Who drew up the borders and were they agreed by the local people or simply arbitrary by some bureaucrat who'd never been to the area?
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:54 am
It is a bit violent,
Probably more than a bit. How often do folk go quickly from shot to dead like in the films?, or in a cattle slaughterhouse.
They've probably shitted themselves first, had a lump blown off somewhere unglamorous and then died rather more slowly and screamy.

I agree that if you have a deterrent you should probably be prepared to go through with it but this seems like a bit final.
How about a big fine with 28 days to pay, or watching a training video?
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:54 am
JackyJoll wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am This is a bit violent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z ... are-mobile

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It is a bit violent, but it WILL act as a deterrent and they won't need to shoot many more. What is the point of an armed border guard if they are not going to repel/shoot unauthorized intruders? Come to that, what is the point of a border if you cannot stop said intruders?
Given that the UN first raised concerns with the Saudis 10 months ago, it doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent if it's still going on.

BBC News
They highlighted "what appears to be a systematic pattern of large-scale, indiscriminate cross-border killings, using artillery shelling and small arms fired by Saudi security forces against migrants..."
Its report contains graphic descriptions of rotting corpses scattered throughout the border area, captured migrants being asked by Saudi border guards which leg they want to be shot through, and machine guns and mortars being used to attack large groups of terrified people
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No doubt UN member state leaders will be falling over themselves to appear shocked and saddened now that it's hit the headlines, despite the UN being aware of it 10 months ago at the very least. :eh:
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They don't fuck about, them Saudi folk. I bet they don't have the crime waves and anti social behaviour like we do here.
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And it gets worse for the UK, as the lawyer who defended child grooming gangs, turned London Mayor releases an anti white racist rant via his office.

We can all see where things are leading, even if others can't....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... londoners/
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Ant wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:35 pm And it gets worse for the UK, as the lawyer who defended child grooming gangs, turned London Mayor releases an anti white racist rant via his office.

We can all see where things are leading, even if others can't....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... londoners/
Having lived/worked in London for 48 years, I can safely say that a picture of a smiling, happy, hand-holding, middle-class family walking along the Thames in no way represents 'real' Londoners. But I guess a picture of an obese, chain smoking, beer swilling single mum wouldn't have gone down too well either :wtf:
WTF wears a shirt under a v-neck jumper along with shitty plimsoles in London ffs :D

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Still, at least it gives stupid people the chance to jump up and down with excitement because they get to play the race card in reverse, due to their inability to look past the colour of the family and the mayor of London. Brown mayor + white family = anti white racist rant. :wtf:
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London is over, just, 50%, white I think. So arguably a jolly bunch of whiteys is still just representative of Londoners. A picNmix family of mixed races wouldn't be representative either, rather forced. There must be massive swings in the demographic by borough though. If you really wanted to be representative of those hogging the embankment, likely you'd end up with Chinese tourists.

I tend to think that if this is all there is to level against Khan then (a) he's probably doing ok (b) it only makes you think that genuine criticism by the same rags is probably full of holes.