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MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:34 am Spineless useless self-serving snivelling fucktards
The government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for placing most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond December 2024. These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the Department for Business and Trade (DBT).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-g ... businesses
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-ukca-marking

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -climbdown
Or, to look at it another way, a pragmatic decision not to reinvent the wheel while minimising barriers to cross border trade.
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Horse wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:35 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:21 pm
DefTrap wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:21 pm Is there some sort of "Tranny News Hysteria" publication that some of you are subscribing to?
Or is it just the Express and Telegraph that are Sherlock-Holmesing the life out of nothing bitching on social media?
have you heard the bother that Costa Coffee are in?
No, tell us.
It's pretty grim.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 85455.html
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I've realised I've stopped watching, reading ' the news' any more. None of it is news. It's people, companies trying to be inclusive, getting it wrong slightly. Activists getting incensed because of the crass way they did it, or that they didn't in the first place. The woke police chuntering on about the world's gone mad.

I can't be arsed with it.
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Felix wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:13 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:50 pm

It's pretty grim.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 85455.html
DM's also

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... rgery.html
The world is insane.
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It only bothers you if you let it. Step away from the Daily Mail/Express/Sun/Star/Telegraph etc. etc., stop reading their carefully selected clickbait and get a fucking life...
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The gutter press (do they still call them that?) don’t design Costa’s adverts.
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Innit, it doesn't matter who the news outlet is, they're only reporting on what is happening in this crazy world. Like if people are throwing their cous cous around in a rage over Trump or Boris, we'd hardly expect someone to be told to not read the Guardian in that case....
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Mussels wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:51 pm I'm not sure what the whole Tampax thing at the moment is about, is this part of it?
BBC News - The female aviator helping women get their wings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-66201917
I know you're sort of making a joke re tampax and wings, but this sort of thing is awesome for younger girls. This bit really resonates with me -
As well as connecting people, the project's aim is to raise the profile of female pilots because, as the saying goes, you can't be what you can't see.

"The biggest problem is the lack of visual role models,"
I didn't know any women that played rugby, rode motorbikes, were jockeys - or pretty much any of the other things I wanted to do as a kid and family comments were always "oh that's not for you dear, that's boy stuff" or similar.

So, despite the (possible) reason for posting that, I think it's freaking awesome.

I've got a mate that's a pilot for BA (and a biker!). When I met her she was a short haul pilot but is now doing long haul, which is awesome. She learnt her skills in the RAF! Helicopters as well :D :D
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Felix wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:13 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:50 pm It's pretty grim.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 85455.html
DM's also

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... rgery.html
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I only have 1 child, a daughter, and we actively encouraged her to do what SHE wanted to do, not what the herd was doing.

She hasnt got a pilots licence, nor does she ride a bike (yet) but she has done pistol shooting, sub aqua, running, open water swimming, surfing, skiing, snowboarding, cyclng and Krav Maga. She also manages to hold down a high powered job.

The main reason she doesnt ride a bike is the ludicrous and time consuming hoops she needs to jump through to get a UK licence.
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That is not even in the same category as the trans extreme movement and you full well know it.
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Bloody hell, you'll be giving women the vote and letting them have jobs next!
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I do enjoy these little lectures that Potter gives from time to time, telling us stuff we already knew but trying to make himself feel superior just for pointing out the obvious.
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Potter wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:20 am I have a question for those people who are terrified about teaching children that it's ok to accept transgender people.

It's been taught for as long as I can remember that it's ok to be gay, I'm sure some of you (that aren't dinosaurs) might have even come to the conclusion yourself, i.e. that it's ok to accept gay people as equal and everyday normal members of society...and I wonder...how many of you were turned from straight to gay because of this?

Remember Sophie Lancaster? People are now taught that it's ok to be goth, so how many of you were convinced to turn goth because of this?

Teaching kids that it's ok to accept transgender people into society will not turn them into transgender people.

I think some of you are so scared to teach people that it's ok to be anything other than heterosexual because you're internally terrified that you might not be one yourself and you'd prefer to keep that reality recessed into a very dark and faraway place in your minds.
It is because they are children. They do not know (or should not know!) what their sexual preferences are yet. We protect them until at least after the confusing period of puberty for that very reason. Children are malleable. They are a blank page which makes them extremely vulnerable to manipulation or indoctrination by those who have an unusual attraction to children. Vulnerable and easily persuaded. They need to be protected against such grooming. Sex should be a dry(!) scientific discussion gradually introducing the biology, the very real (!) differences between the sexes and not complicated with the ridiculous idea that you can choose whether you're a boy or a girl.

That is insanity.

The subject is invariably juxtaposed with the equally contentious and increasingly ridiculous proliferation of "gender" identities. Yes there are boyish girls and girlish boys and yes, they should be allowed to develop however they may choose. Not that it is any business of mine but I am quite happy with the idea of boys wearing a dress, playing with makeup or girls climbing trees being a mechanic or whatever "gender affirming" roles are currently accepted.

Buggered if I even know how boys and girls are "supposed" to behave in this modern era and god only knows how confusing it must be for children to "understand" this topic when it is still so vehemently argued among the so called grown ups. Best let them sort it out for themselves I say, it's not as if that rather obvious strategy hasn't worked for the entire duration of mankind.

But my biggest fear if you want to say I am "terrified" or "scared" of allowing or encouraging sexual deviants to "educate" children is that you already know damned well what a "transgender" adult or gay activist is going to tell them. Let's be honest here, the alphabet people, the LGBTQ+ brigade are already obsessed with sex/gender. That is all they seem to offer. I never hear positive stories about how their individual and personal choice has benefitted society, it's more about how if you CIS gender bigots don''t accept my personal sexual fantasy, I will destroy you.

They're not going to convince me a man can be a woman just because they says so. I am not a child.

The "fear" is of course that there is an element of the medical profession, looking for the next quick buck. Gender affirming care is big business. A lifetime of corrective surgery, drug induced hormone manipulations, a lifetime spent "proving" you made the right call even though all of the evidence proves otherwise. We already know, it cannot possibly ever work. Boys are still boys after they are castrated, girls are still girls after they are neutered the only difference being, after that decision has been made for them, before they discover their true sexual identity as adults, they will never be able to have children of their own. Never become the despised "normal" family unit of a man and a woman.

It is the surgical intervention and puberty blockers for children that I object to and therefore I also object to allowing sexual deviants access to children so that they can radicalise and manipulate them into their seedy sex obsessed world. After the age of consent, knock yourself out. Do what you like to your own body, behave as you like with the only slight caveat: you go your way, I'll go mine. They can't tell me how I have to think. I am not a child, I will make my own mind up. I think they are deluded.
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I'm on holiday with six kids. They are all fine with trans folk; its the old men who aren't.
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Potter wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:39 am It has to be a bit pushy, otherwise you wouldn't accept it, I seem to remember reading that civil rights for black people was a bit of a struggle too.
Ok, now we know you're just taking the piss..... :lol:

But remember, blacking up was banned.....but being a parody of a woman is fine, just wait until we start parodying black people again, you'll be all good with that then :thumbup:
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:47 am I'm on holiday with six kids. They are all fine with trans folk; its the old men who aren't.
And there's religious groups who were fine with FGM, whilst the old white men and women weren't.

So the age group who are being groomed are ok with it, whilst those who know it's wrong aren't, mmmmm.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:47 am I'm on holiday with six kids. They are all fine with trans folk; its the old men who aren't.
Yes I appreciate that. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

But would you be happy leaving those six children in the care of a transsexual under the circumstances where that individual is responsible for teaching them? Specifically sex education. What sort of unbiased or let's say "scientifically valid" education would they be given?

A rather chilling development in the USA at least is that if a child expresses any interest in "gender identity" that conversation will be kept away from the parents. Their development is then in the hands of those with politically motivated interests. All a child has to do is say "I want to be a girl" to the wrong person and the knives will be out before the parents even know about it.

I wish I was being paranoid about it but there are multiple stories of such things happening in real life. You send you boy to school one day and it comes back a "they". Would you be fine with that?
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I am quite happy with transgender people, I have met and spoken with probably dozens and had a colleage who came out as transgender and started transforming.

Most of them were fairly unhappy and troubled people, changing gender didnt seem to change that much.

I am happy to accept them as people, but their underlying biology was determined before birth, and everything since then is just tinkering. Sports that depend on size/strength should be confined to people born to that gender.

If that seems unfair, so is life! At school I aspired to be a sprinter and a flank forward. I was reasonably good at both, but I needed to be 4-6" taller to compete at senior level, so my biology stopped me. Transgender people need to accept that too.
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