5 ESSENTIAL TECH TIPS FOR REBUILDING MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE CARBURETORS
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5 ESSENTIAL TECH TIPS FOR REBUILDING MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE CARBURETORS
https://www.bikeexif.com/rebuilding-mik ... carburetor
A copy and paste from Bikeexif, but an interesting one to someone like me who's got very little in the way of knowledge on things like this.
MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE carburetors are some of the most common and reliable carburetors found on classic motorcycles and powersports equipment, and rebuilding one is definitely a gearhead right of passage. If you’ve got a bit of mechanical sense and a basic set of tools, you can definitely get the job done, and finally have that old bike running again.
We’ve rebuilt enough Mikuni carburetors to field an entire army of powersports equipment, and have a few tricks up our sleeve for getting the job done right. It’s a pretty simple affair, and we’ve outlined the whole process in this how-to video below using some really crusty VM34s from our 1972 Suzuki Titan 500. If this isn’t your first rodeo with a Mikuni round slide, we’ve outlined five key areas that could improve your carb-rebuilding game.
Fuel Bowl Seems elementary, I know, but there are several ways to screw up removing a Mikuni round-slide fuel bowl. Mikuni uses four JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screws to retain the fuel bowl. JIS drivers and screws aren’t designed to “cam out” at a specific torque like Phillips screws are. In most cases, you can get by with a standard Phillips, but the correct tool would be a JIS No. 2.
Once the screws have been removed, you’ll notice the bowl will remain stuck to the carburetor body, and a few smacks with the handle of your screwdriver will loosen it up. This is a point where it pays to take some extra care. The original bowl gasket on the Mikuni is pretty tough, and you can almost always reuse it. However, the gasket can sometimes stick to the bowl and the carb body, and it can tear if you continue removing the bowl.
If this happens, run a small straight blade along the bowl gasket surface to separate the gasket from the bowl. If the gasket isn’t torn, it’s fine to reuse it as long as your gasket surface is clean.
Float Assembly Your Mikuni round slide will have either brass or composite floats, and the assembly is a little different for each. With either setup, you’ll have an arm that interfaces with the needle and seat; brass floats are usually affixed directly to the arm, while composite floats extend from the bowl and push on the arm with small pins.
The float arm pivots on a pin that goes between posts on both sides of the needle and seat, and you’ll have to remove the pin to access the needle and seat. On this carburetor from our Suzuki Titan, the pin doesn’t have a head on it, and simply fell out after jostling the carb. On many other Mikunis, this pin will have a head on one side, and the holes in the posts are actually tapered for a tight fit. Make note of what side the head is on, and be sure to reinstall it in the same direction.
We’ve found a light-duty, spring-loaded center punch to be the tool of choice for removing tight float arm pins. While the spring action seems harsh, we’ve never broken a float arm post off using a spring-loaded center punch. I can’t say the same for a standard punch and a hammer.
Needle and Seat Assembly You can rebuild Mikuni round slides over and over and not have an issue with the needle and seat, but when it finally happens, it’s a headache you won’t forget. The needle and seat both have a tapered surface where they interface with each other, and it’s imperative that this surface is perfectly clean. If there are visual imperfections, it’s usually junk, and sometimes even a perfect-looking needle and seat assembly can leak fuel.
If your machine is hard starting, wants to flood out or has gas leaking from the carburetor vent lines, the needle and seat could be your issue. If cleaning it doesn’t work, you’ll have to replace it, and we opt for the viton-tipped needles whenever possible.
If you suspect the needle and seat is leaking, there’s a simple way to test it. With the carburetor fully assembled, suspend a suitable fuel reservoir a foot above the carb with a half-gallon of fuel in it and connect a fuel line to the carburetor. If the needle and seat are leaking, you’ll notice fuel in the carburetor body after a few minutes. This process is simple (albeit somewhat of a moot point) on a motorcycle with a gravity-fed fuel tank, but if you’re working on something with a fuel pump, it saves you a bunch of kicking, pulling or cranking, as the fuel bowls are now pre-filled.
Pilot Jet The pilot jet is the smallest jet in a Mikuni carb and has tiny orifices, and as such, it’s almost always clogged. The pilot is hidden in the tube forward of the main jet, and you need a very specific screwdriver to get it out. My weapon of choice is a 1/8″ Craftsman straight blade, and if memory serves, I even took a little material off the sides on the widest part of the blade.
A copy and paste from Bikeexif, but an interesting one to someone like me who's got very little in the way of knowledge on things like this.
MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE carburetors are some of the most common and reliable carburetors found on classic motorcycles and powersports equipment, and rebuilding one is definitely a gearhead right of passage. If you’ve got a bit of mechanical sense and a basic set of tools, you can definitely get the job done, and finally have that old bike running again.
We’ve rebuilt enough Mikuni carburetors to field an entire army of powersports equipment, and have a few tricks up our sleeve for getting the job done right. It’s a pretty simple affair, and we’ve outlined the whole process in this how-to video below using some really crusty VM34s from our 1972 Suzuki Titan 500. If this isn’t your first rodeo with a Mikuni round slide, we’ve outlined five key areas that could improve your carb-rebuilding game.
Fuel Bowl Seems elementary, I know, but there are several ways to screw up removing a Mikuni round-slide fuel bowl. Mikuni uses four JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screws to retain the fuel bowl. JIS drivers and screws aren’t designed to “cam out” at a specific torque like Phillips screws are. In most cases, you can get by with a standard Phillips, but the correct tool would be a JIS No. 2.
Once the screws have been removed, you’ll notice the bowl will remain stuck to the carburetor body, and a few smacks with the handle of your screwdriver will loosen it up. This is a point where it pays to take some extra care. The original bowl gasket on the Mikuni is pretty tough, and you can almost always reuse it. However, the gasket can sometimes stick to the bowl and the carb body, and it can tear if you continue removing the bowl.
If this happens, run a small straight blade along the bowl gasket surface to separate the gasket from the bowl. If the gasket isn’t torn, it’s fine to reuse it as long as your gasket surface is clean.
Float Assembly Your Mikuni round slide will have either brass or composite floats, and the assembly is a little different for each. With either setup, you’ll have an arm that interfaces with the needle and seat; brass floats are usually affixed directly to the arm, while composite floats extend from the bowl and push on the arm with small pins.
The float arm pivots on a pin that goes between posts on both sides of the needle and seat, and you’ll have to remove the pin to access the needle and seat. On this carburetor from our Suzuki Titan, the pin doesn’t have a head on it, and simply fell out after jostling the carb. On many other Mikunis, this pin will have a head on one side, and the holes in the posts are actually tapered for a tight fit. Make note of what side the head is on, and be sure to reinstall it in the same direction.
We’ve found a light-duty, spring-loaded center punch to be the tool of choice for removing tight float arm pins. While the spring action seems harsh, we’ve never broken a float arm post off using a spring-loaded center punch. I can’t say the same for a standard punch and a hammer.
Needle and Seat Assembly You can rebuild Mikuni round slides over and over and not have an issue with the needle and seat, but when it finally happens, it’s a headache you won’t forget. The needle and seat both have a tapered surface where they interface with each other, and it’s imperative that this surface is perfectly clean. If there are visual imperfections, it’s usually junk, and sometimes even a perfect-looking needle and seat assembly can leak fuel.
If your machine is hard starting, wants to flood out or has gas leaking from the carburetor vent lines, the needle and seat could be your issue. If cleaning it doesn’t work, you’ll have to replace it, and we opt for the viton-tipped needles whenever possible.
If you suspect the needle and seat is leaking, there’s a simple way to test it. With the carburetor fully assembled, suspend a suitable fuel reservoir a foot above the carb with a half-gallon of fuel in it and connect a fuel line to the carburetor. If the needle and seat are leaking, you’ll notice fuel in the carburetor body after a few minutes. This process is simple (albeit somewhat of a moot point) on a motorcycle with a gravity-fed fuel tank, but if you’re working on something with a fuel pump, it saves you a bunch of kicking, pulling or cranking, as the fuel bowls are now pre-filled.
Pilot Jet The pilot jet is the smallest jet in a Mikuni carb and has tiny orifices, and as such, it’s almost always clogged. The pilot is hidden in the tube forward of the main jet, and you need a very specific screwdriver to get it out. My weapon of choice is a 1/8″ Craftsman straight blade, and if memory serves, I even took a little material off the sides on the widest part of the blade.
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Re: 5 ESSENTIAL TECH TIPS FOR REBUILDING MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE CARBURETORS
Those float bowl screws are always a paint to get out. Either they've been in so long they are pretty much seized or some hamfisted goon has already had a go and ruined the head (using a non-JIS screwdriver).
On my RD racer I replaced them with allen bolts as the jets were getting changed so often.
On my RD racer I replaced them with allen bolts as the jets were getting changed so often.
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There's a pleasant watch of a video in the article, too:
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Nice article .
I think the main reason that folk are afraid of carb tinkering is the fear of making it worse. Aside from being a klutz and losing some of the small parts, there's very little that can go wrong. Just make sure you don't bend any float tangs unless you feel it's really necessary, and avoid separating bodies on multi body units.
I think the main reason that folk are afraid of carb tinkering is the fear of making it worse. Aside from being a klutz and losing some of the small parts, there's very little that can go wrong. Just make sure you don't bend any float tangs unless you feel it's really necessary, and avoid separating bodies on multi body units.
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Definitely replace the JIS cross-heads with cap head screws, preferably stainless. And use a little dab of anti-seize past or Copaslip on the screws on reassembly.
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They can sometimes be got back to a usable state by lightly hammering the screw head until it has no wrong looking sticking up bits and then tapping a JIS into the recess with a hammer to reshape it.KungFooBob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:12 am Those float bowl screws are always a paint to get out. Either they've been in so long they are pretty much seized or some hamfisted goon has already had a go and ruined the head (using a non-JIS screwdriver).
On my RD racer I replaced them with allen bolts as the jets were getting changed so often.
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Re: 5 ESSENTIAL TECH TIPS FOR REBUILDING MIKUNI ROUND-SLIDE CARBURETORS
If the screws are in good condition the right size JIS screwdriver works perfectly (it helps that I've got brand new Mikuni carbs)
On old carbs the pilot jet can be difficult to get out, soak it in carb cleaner and use a good fitting screwdriver.
The pilot jets can also be an arse to clean, modern fuel clogs them up if it's left in the float bowl for long periods, soak them in petrol to soften the deposits, or replace the pilots if you're in a hurry.
Allens are the best place to get Mikuni parts, but aren't cheap.
The two stroke carbs are pretty simple, but the smooth bores fitted to big 4 strokes have a load of air jets that can get blocked.
There are a load of tiny passages it the carbs that can get blocked, soaking the carb in petrol softens the deposits in any of these, but is obviously a big fire hazard.
On old carbs the pilot jet can be difficult to get out, soak it in carb cleaner and use a good fitting screwdriver.
The pilot jets can also be an arse to clean, modern fuel clogs them up if it's left in the float bowl for long periods, soak them in petrol to soften the deposits, or replace the pilots if you're in a hurry.
Allens are the best place to get Mikuni parts, but aren't cheap.
The two stroke carbs are pretty simple, but the smooth bores fitted to big 4 strokes have a load of air jets that can get blocked.
There are a load of tiny passages it the carbs that can get blocked, soaking the carb in petrol softens the deposits in any of these, but is obviously a big fire hazard.
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Parallel blade screwdrivers are a must for jets
The many Chinese copy Makuni on Ebay do
not have the same needle or jets as the genuine carbs so are not inter changeable.
The many Chinese copy Makuni on Ebay do
not have the same needle or jets as the genuine carbs so are not inter changeable.