BIKEEXIF : AN EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT THE 2024 KRÄMER GP2-890RR RACE BIKE

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That's proper lovely that is. Really top bit of design and engineering. :thumbup:
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Wot, no wings?
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its all in the details. and theres plenty of those. very well executed
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Lovely. Top engineering and execution. There is nothing superfluous, everything you see is there on merit and is entirely functional.
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Potter wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:01 am it lacks the beauty of some of the GP bikes of yesteryear - it simply doesn’t compare to something like a Cagiva 500.
I can't think of anything that does, to be fair.

https://www.fastbikesmag.com/2017/06/14 ... giva-c594/
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I'd take this bike over any older GP any day of the week
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Potter wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:33 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:59 am I'd take this bike over any older GP any day of the week
It's got that angular thing that you like, but I think the majority of bike racing enthusiasts that were watching racing in the 80's and 90s would agree the 500's looked nicer and were a better era.
Maybe, but we're in the now, not the 80s.

It's going to have all the electronics, geometry, handling, tyres, brakes, fuelling all perfect

Plus, it just looks bloody awesome
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Foxy.

Lots of RC8 influences in the silhouette.
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Skub wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:49 pm Foxy.

Lots of RC8 influences in the silhouette.
Always going to be though isn't it considering where the donor comes from. So not a massive shock.

Which pleases me as i love an RC8.
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I was surprised when I got to the price. I thought it was going to be more. Sure it's not going to get bought on the money from a paper round but if you're in that sort of game it's not bad at all.

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Realistically a man in a shed could knock something up 85% as decent for most people for £15,000 using a base model 890R and a fairing.... Essentially that would be all that was needed. In the same way they do in Triumph world with the 765RS and convert it into a Daytona.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:14 pm Realistically a man in a shed could knock something up 85% as decent for most people for £15,000 using a base model 890R and a fairing.... Essentially that would be all that was needed. In the same way they do in Triumph world with the 765RS and convert it into a Daytona.
It's that 15% that costs the 💰 :D
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The devil is in the detail and when anyone begins a project,then they realise how much work and talent goes into making the visualised item a reality. Not to mention cost.
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I thought it was an RC8. Nothing about it strikes me with a wow factor tbh, but to be fair to it, anything faired is off my radar.
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Potter wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:58 am
Taipan wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:47 am I thought it was an RC8. Nothing about it strikes me with a wow factor tbh, but to be fair to it, anything faired is off my radar.
I thought it was a KTM.

They haven't made it very unique have they, it's supposedly bespoke and it just looks like a KTM, with a KTM engine and parts.
They've always been that though, they used to be 690s with a sports front end/riding position. Again as you say they were 'bespoke' but only in a very loose sense
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its a bespoke frame. so apart from the engine it is. even got roto moulded seat / tank so theres some investment in proper tooling going on
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porter_jamie wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:17 am even got roto moulded seat / tank so theres some investment in proper tooling going on
So fun little fact for you...it's actually significantly cheaper to make moulded carbon fibre body panels at a prototype level than 'cheap' plastic ones, so I'm assuming that's what this thing has.
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Google the Kramer website.
Fun fact, the 690 is the same and I spoke to Mr Kramer at Snetterton a while ago and he showed me round the bike. He is a very nice man.