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Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
Even bland can be a type of character
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
Yes, it was the UK.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
I've worked on similar tech from a similar age and I think that article is hamming it up a bit for extra cash or glory, or they want to make changes and skip the certification.MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:11 pm Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
We've had railway stuff go obsolete and its involved people trawling eBay for spares. We've also had components that were 50p in production go to £5 once they're out of production as companies specialise in buying up the worlds stock of obsolete components and setting their price. We've also had the only RF drive transistor that we could use as an alternative only produce 75% of the power required and that required a perfect tune on a perfect transmitter. Also some our old RF kit couldn't be replaced as the components contained beryllium, there was no alternative. Luckily for us we managed to get by on the spares we had left as the old radio system was replaced. Even on our modern equipment, component replacement issues due to obsolescence/recycling requirements along with with type certification is a real issue and has caused tremendous headaches and expenditure.Mussels wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:18 pmI've worked on similar tech from a similar age and I think that article is hamming it up a bit for extra cash or glory, or they want to make changes and skip the certification.MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:11 pm Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
There was an urban legend that NASA would scour ebay for 8086 CPU's to keep the Shuttle flying long after Intel stopped making them.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
When IBM discontinued production of their 3745 communications controllers (introduced in the mid '80s) in the early 2000s, one of the few sources of spares/features was eBay. This gave rise to the faintly ludicrous situation of Banks and other major blue chip companies buying bits off eBay to keep their flagship mainframe SNA networks running while they hastily converted to TCPIP.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was true. My last company had a Space and Defence division (their only joke was 'It's not rocket science y'know. Oh, hang on, it is! ). They were actually the lowest/oldest tech part of the whole business - wouldn't put anything up there that hadn't been 'proven' for umpteen years.KungFooBob wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:00 am There was an urban legend that NASA would scour ebay for 8086 CPU's to keep the Shuttle flying long after Intel stopped making them.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
The Stinger came into service just after the 8086 chip so I doubt it includes anything that advanced. They could probably make most of the electronics needed in a garden shed.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
Perhaps this will be the end of Western civilization?
Not in a nuclear fireball, not in a major sea level rise due to global warming, not in a people's uprising against capitalism. Just slowly strangled by obsolesence coupled with ultra green policies and ever more stringent certification requirements.
Not in a nuclear fireball, not in a major sea level rise due to global warming, not in a people's uprising against capitalism. Just slowly strangled by obsolesence coupled with ultra green policies and ever more stringent certification requirements.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
After watching the latest videos of Putin in today's annual Russian Navy Day in St Petersburgh my wife remarked (and I agreed with her) that it does look likely that Putin has Parkinson's.
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If you find any then I think I have a book on compiling machine code for them somewhere.
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Which reminds me, some of the old stuff I have with eproms in it, I ought to make back ups of.....I know since I last did one, there are handy USB eprom programmers available.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
I think that Ukraine's target may to establish a corridor to the Sea of Azov just before the rains come in and turn the countryside to mud thus bogging down any Russian armour response. Thus cutting the land bridge to Crimea, and to also destroy the Kerch bridge, and lay siege to Crimea.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approv ... 20Thursday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approv ... 20Thursday.
WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
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Is this necessarily a good thing?irie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:53 am Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approv ... 20Thursday.
WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
They're getting a load of old F-16s and a few weeks training. All Russia has to do is stick a few S-400 SAM systems well inside their own territory and they'll simply remove the F-16s from the sky.
Its not like sending a load of amateurs with AKs into Ukraine, the Russian air force is as professional as any other and they'll make a concerted effort to down those jets. And they'll do it.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
I'm not so sure, Russia doesn't have air superiority and Ukraine has managed to keep some old Migs still flying.Bigjawa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:48 pmIs this necessarily a good thing?irie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:53 am Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approv ... 20Thursday.
WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
They're getting a load of old F-16s and a few weeks training. All Russia has to do is stick a few S-400 SAM systems well inside their own territory and they'll simply remove the F-16s from the sky.
Its not like sending a load of amateurs with AKs into Ukraine, the Russian air force is as professional as any other and they'll make a concerted effort to down those jets. And they'll do it.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?
If the Ukrainians are clever they'll be making much of flying the F16s when they get them and then letting drones simulate them into contested airspace and let the RuSSians expend very expensive and with low replacement rate S400 interceptors knocking down fake F16s, all the time giving the Ukranians locations for the very expensive S400 radars.Mussels wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:25 pmI'm not so sure, Russia doesn't have air superiority and Ukraine has managed to keep some old Migs still flying.Bigjawa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:48 pmIs this necessarily a good thing?irie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:53 am Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approv ... 20Thursday.
They're getting a load of old F-16s and a few weeks training. All Russia has to do is stick a few S-400 SAM systems well inside their own territory and they'll simply remove the F-16s from the sky.
Its not like sending a load of amateurs with AKs into Ukraine, the Russian air force is as professional as any other and they'll make a concerted effort to down those jets. And they'll do it.
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
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"Even the lies?"
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"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."