Address to the EU parliament, Dr David Martin

[JackyJoll]

More to the point, why do we care what he told the EU Parliament.

Because it has effected you perhaps, killed 100s of thousands and continues to cause the greatest rise in additional deaths above expected norms ever to be recorded. There are also graver implications leading to questions over accountability, media blackouts, lockdowns and motivation behind all this especially when one considers what the World Health Organisation advocated, and are advocating as we move forward post pandemic. The whole world was effected. I believe in truth and transparency, and critical thought. I’d hoped these ideals were universal.

I’ll take you more seriously after you sort out your affected and effected.

[Yambo]

'Misleading the house'?

It’s a phrase used in Westminster, I imagined it also applied in principle to the european parliament.

(Some MP, i forget who, wrongly claimed in the House (UK) that Farage had accepted Russian funds, in yet another tawdry attempt by politicians to smear rival politicians while evading questions of policy, and i wondered when this MP would be held accountable for misleading the House. Won’t happen of course because that’s the way it is. I think all these so-called crises are simply caused by a much more evident one, which is the crisis in politics, worldwide).

Chris Bryant used Parliamentary Privilege to slander Farage in that incident. It's a useful tool I gather for politicians.

[MrLongbeard]

'Misleading the house'?

It’s a phrase used in Westminster, I imagined it also applied in principle to the european parliament.

Mayhaps if he was giving evidence to parliament, this was a summit / conference / jolly

[slowhare]

I’ve been listening to Dr John Campbell on YT since this thing kicked off and his position has shifted radically over time. His mantra has always been ‘follow the science’ and through an objective rationalisation of all the available data from multiple sources the evidence is overwhelming. I’m left wondering why there’s such a silence surrounding these huge numbers in excess deaths.

I was double jabbed, but now have regrets. I never caught Covid and will not be having another mRNA vaccine jab, ever again regardless of my social credit score or public banning.

[Yorick]

Wibble.

[Ant]

Wobble.

[gremlin]

I got jabbed. Three months later I got a parking ticket.

Coincidence?

[DefTrap]

I was double jabbed, but now have regrets. I never caught Covid and will not be having another mRNA vaccine jab, ever again regardless of my social credit score or public banning.

Regrets why?

[Yorick]

I got jabbed. Three months later I got a parking ticket.

Coincidence?

I got a headache and achey knee 3 weeks later.

[Ant]

I got jabbed. Three months later I got a parking ticket.

Coincidence?

That's nothing, my cock grew bigger with visibly throbbing veins.

[Horse]

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-p ... spiracies/

The video devotes considerable attention to Event 201 — a tabletop preparedness exercise held in October 2019, before reports of the novel coronavirus in China surfaced in December.

Interesting coincidence? How about this (a few excerpts, the whole articleis well-worth reading*):

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023 ... r-response

Easthope decided to share her concerns with a small group of academics, police officers, and public officials. She invited the group to a daylong meeting in London,

Emergency planning is built around scenarios. After lunch, Easthope sketched out the kind of incident that she was worried about. In July, 2009, a fire started by a faulty television set had killed six people in Lakanal House, a public-housing apartment block in South London. The fire surprised emergency personnel when it darted up and down the building’s façade, burning through the aluminum-frame cladding in minutes. It challenged the conventional response to an apartment-block fire, which was to advise residents to stay put until the fire was under control. (One victim at Lakanal House spent half an hour on the phone with emergency dispatchers, until she was overwhelmed by smoke.)

By this point, Easthope was feeling sick. It was a Tuesday, and she had been unwell since the weekend. ... That afternoon, Hackman, who was trained as a nurse, noticed that Easthope’s face had turned a strange, yellowish color and advised her to go to the hospital.

In the early evening, Easthope took a train back to Nottinghamshire, ... Easthope was admitted to the emergency room with acute pancreatitis. She was still awake, in a hospital bed, when she started to receive news of a huge fire in West London. A refrigerator had caught alight in a fourth-floor apartment in Grenfell Tower, a twenty-four-floor public-housing building in North Kensington.

* it's not about conspiracies or conspiracy theories

[slowhare]

Regrets why?

Because of the increased risks associated with it.

I thought i was fit & healthy, never had an illness, good bodymass ratio… but i had a heart attack. Ok, i’m not a young man at 58 but it was unexpected. Now, after a routine blood test, a kidney discrepancy has been identified & i’ve been asked back for a 2nd test. Pathological studies from autopsies have shown the kidneys, like the heart, are susceptible… so why take the risk? The benefits of this untested vaccine are far outweighed by the risks. It should’ve been risk assessed, but it wasn’t and now you have 100s of 1000 s of excess deaths which on the face of statistical evidence clearly show a correlation yet almost everyone is ignoring it. They even refused to debate it in the House.

[DefTrap]

Because of the increased risks associated with it.

Can you be a bit more specific?
Which exact it, what risks and how do you know?

[slowhare]

Can you be a bit more specific?
Which exact it, what risks and how do you know?

I thought i was fit & healthy, never had an illness, good bodymass ratio… but i had a heart attack. Ok, i’m not a young man at 58 but it was unexpected. Now, after a routine blood test, a kidney discrepancy has been identified & i’ve been asked back for a 2nd test. Pathological studies from autopsies have shown the kidneys, like the heart, are susceptible… so why take the risk? The benefits of this untested vaccine are far outweighed by the risks. It should’ve been risk assessed, but it wasn’t and now you have 100s of 1000 s of excess deaths which on the face of statistical evidence clearly show a correlation yet almost everyone is ignoring it. They even refused to debate it in the House.

[DefTrap]

Simply full of holes I'm afraid. Safety is paramount in medical trials, and the collection of data continues post release of any vaccines, any serious indications that something is unsafe is investigated. These vaccines -were- tested and of course medical trials include risk assessments of all processes throughout. There's always going to be some risk Vs benefit but certain standards have to be met and initial higher risks mitigated to lower the impact to acceptable levels. Yes I'm aware there are examples of other drugs where something went wrong. I don't think this case is one of them, I don't think there is currently sufficient evidence to suggest any of these COVID drugs is unsafe, and I certainly don't think any of the trials processes were bodged. It's wishful thinking, no drug is going to be licensed if the risks outweigh the benefits, no amount of pressure from governments or pharma's is going to force medical professionals to turn a blind eye to any malpractice. The whole system is set up to prevent this.

But yeah don't take vaccines if you don't want to. Take as few medicines as possible, we can't possibly understand the impact of one drug against -all- the concomitant meds you have swirling about in you.

Sorry to hear about the heart attack though, that sucks.

[Cousin Jack]

I too was fit, healthy, and then found I had blocked coronary arteries and the symptomless onset of kidney failure. Just like you.

Only difference it was years before Covid or and jabs for Covid.

[Yambo]

I thought i was fit & healthy, never had an illness, good bodymass ratio… but i had a heart attack.

I was fit and healthy and had a heart attack at 55. The day before I saw the heart surgeon for my first consultation prior to a triple by-pass op I climbed Helvellyn with my son. The surgeon couldn't understand how I was capable of that.

I'm still relatively fit and healthy. I never got Covid but I was vaccinated - I needed to get done so I could travel to the UK to see my grandkids.

I have had no I'll effects from the jabs. None, nothing, zilch. Why me?

[slowhare]

Simply full of holes I'm afraid. Safety is paramount in medical trials, and the collection of data continues post release of any vaccines, any serious indications that something is unsafe is investigated. These vaccines -were- tested and of course medical trials include risk assessments of all processes throughout. There's always going to be some risk Vs benefit but certain standards have to be met and initial higher risks mitigated to lower the impact to acceptable levels. Yes I'm aware there are examples of other drugs where something went wrong. I don't think this case is one of them, I don't think there is currently sufficient evidence to suggest any of these COVID drugs is unsafe, and I certainly don't think any of the trials processes were bodged. It's wishful thinking, no drug is going to be licensed if the risks outweigh the benefits, no amount of pressure from governments or pharma's is going to force medical professionals to turn a blind eye to any malpractice. The whole system is set up to prevent this.

But yeah don't take vaccines if you don't want to. Take as few medicines as possible, we can't possibly understand the impact of one drug against -all- the concomitant meds you have swirling about in you.

Sorry to hear about the heart attack though, that sucks.

I don’t believe it’s full of holes, but i’m not in the game of convincing others.

Off to get that 2nd blood test

[DefTrap]

I don’t believe it’s full of holes, but i’m not in the game of convincing others.

Off to get that 2nd blood test

I'm just giving you the benefit of my 25 years of industry experience but yeah what do I know. I think I was clear in that you should be conscious of making thoughtless decisions about what you put into your body, whether it's a pie or a vaccine, but there are strict systems in place to ensure that, with medications, if you can't be bothered the risk is minimised. I'm not bothered about convincing strangers but it grinds my gears a bit to hear just wrong and unverifiable statements like "it wasn't tested" and "benefits ... are far outweighed by the risk". And that you aren't interested in discussing it further or even acknowledging the flimsy statements just smacks of an unverifiable opinion that is basically hogwash I'm afraid. The #1 problem in medical trials is not corruption or terrible flimsy process, it's good old fashioned incompetence, same as any other industry. If you wanted to push that line I could go for it, I'm battling against this every day. But there are an enormous number of checks, measures, reviews and audits to eliminate mistakes of this nature.

Your body is fragile is fragile. Take care. Shit happens.

Good luck with the blood test.

[slowhare]

Well that was painless, at least.

I was fit and healthy and had a heart attack at 55. The day before I saw the heart surgeon for my first consultation prior to a triple by-pass op I climbed Helvellyn with my son. The surgeon couldn't understand how I was capable of that.

I'm still relatively fit and healthy. I never got Covid but I was vaccinated - I needed to get done so I could travel to the UK to see my grandkids.

I have had no I'll effects from the jabs. None, nothing, zilch. Why me?

I feel for you (a triple bypass!) I had a single stent inserted. In & out in a couple of days. At the time i was lying in bed when i noticed a numbness to my left arm. Moving to a more comfortable position didn’t alleviate things: it got worse —the numbness turned to a shocking pain the likes i’ve never experienced: i wanted to chop my arm off. Sweating prolificly.

I had to take cloppydogril for the stent, one year. I was also prescribed Ramipril (for the high blood pressure) & some Statins. The statins are designed to lower cholesterol levels, but i didn’t have high cholesterol so voluntarily stopped taking these (liver function is perfect). Treatment is a kind of boots & braces approach but i didn’t want to take any unnecessary pils so felt justified in ditching the statins.

To add to my earlier posts i’d like to say i was never anti-vax, per se: i followed the narrative. I had no problem with folk refusing the jab either: my position is that it’s an individual’s choice. It was only after having followed the evidence i came to change my opinion on this, and i’ve been following the subject since its outbreak. I find the excess deaths in particular shocking and am still puzzled as to why they’re not being addressed. As to the initial outbreak, it was clear from the beginning things weren’t quite how they appeared. The retracted letter in Lancet showing gain of function research funded by the likes of Peter Dansek (sp) and Fauci was the start: they’d been being doing precisely that research at the Wuhan Institute, all funded by the US, yet denied any involvement. They would, wouldn’t they. Nothing has come of this, of course… & blame has shifted from bats to pangolins and other non-such intermediaries.The mainstream narrative has been appalling. Meanwhile, patient zero has been identified as a Wuhan lab technician.

As a result of all this i’ve abandoned the mainstream media sources completely & don’t watch much tv. If my wife didn’t defend the BBC (she’s a foreign national & likes the period costume dramas) i’d be happy to defund the beeb & not pay the license fee. How times change.