HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

MTB, Road, Cyclocross, Running, walking, Rowing, Weights / Cardio, Diet, training plans
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Having some HT thoughts at the moment with some of the deals on chain reaction

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/r ... rma-violet

Excellent spec, 27.5 and Aly frame

But then there's this
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/r ... -bike-moss

Big Wig. Same sort of spec but 29er and steel

Lastly this Ribble
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305015433621

Image

Bit lower spec, but lower price too.
User avatar
MingtheMerciless
Posts: 3556
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 am
Location: Scarfolk on Sea
Has thanked: 2947 times
Been thanked: 1884 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by MingtheMerciless »

Hardtails will be faster on most stuff local to you and more winter proof. Ally might be more tiring than steel due to its unforgiving nature. I'd go for the Big Wig as it steel and clown wheels.
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
Beancounter
Posts: 1009
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:20 pm
Has thanked: 2870 times
Been thanked: 554 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Beancounter »

Dunno what it is but Ragley bikes look properly cool. Just something about them.
Last edited by Beancounter on Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Beancounter wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:06 am Dunno what it is but I Ragley bikes look properly cool. Just something about them.
Yeah absolutley agree... they're both lovely looking things but i then sit and think
"do i really want a HT"
"when will i actually use a HT"

Both answers are "Hmmmmm dunno". Hence having not bought one yet.
tricol
Posts: 676
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:52 pm
Has thanked: 235 times
Been thanked: 471 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by tricol »

I have a 2022 mmmbop. I love it. Great spec for the money, heavily discounted. I wouldn't be without a hardtail.

I'd avoid the Ribble purely based on the fork.
Yamaha MT09 SP
Le_Fromage_Grande
Posts: 11236
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:40 pm
Location: The road of many manky motorcycles
Has thanked: 607 times
Been thanked: 4124 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Le_Fromage_Grande »

I like my hardtail ebike, but the only real advantage I can see of a hardtail is less maintenance and better reliability (because there's less to go wrong)
Honda Owner
User avatar
Mr Moofo
Posts: 4620
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Location: Brightonish
Has thanked: 1829 times
Been thanked: 1469 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Mr Moofo »

I wouldn't buy the Ribble
the other look good
Re HT -I have a Bfe that I very rarely ride - but it does have a winter role
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:56 am I like my hardtail ebike, but the only real advantage I can see of a hardtail is less maintenance and better reliability (because there's less to go wrong)
Yeah as with @Mr Moofo i was thinking as much as a 'winter' role as anything else. The Slayer has plenty of bearings, but i've not actually needed to change many since buying (2 pivot and a BB). I was kinda thinking it'd be a bit quicker a bit more responsive. But as with everything in life there's a compromise, if i buy a lighter quicker HT then it's crap at trails and would only get used in really easy rides, if i get something a bit more hardcore then it's unlikely to be any lighter/quicker than the Slayer.

I did move thoughts onto a lighter faster FS like a Privateer 141

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3673821/

This bloke will do his for £1300 without brakes, which suits me perfectly and works well in a lot of ways, but it's a P3 and i honestly think i'll be more suited to his P2 than a P3. The reach on the P3 is 490, the reach on the P2 is 470... my Slayer is about 455 and i like it, but i'll admit, when i've ridden his i've really liked the 141... but not convinced i'll really like the P3.
tricol
Posts: 676
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:52 pm
Has thanked: 235 times
Been thanked: 471 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by tricol »

If you want it just for a winter role, don't buy it. You'll sell it.

I went for the mmmbop as I wanted a playful bike. The smaller wheels help. Yes, the ally is harsh, but it's a hardtail. I have ridden a lot of trails on both my bikes and the mmmbop handles it all really well. I'm slower, but often having a bit more fun. Oh and the violet colour is more pink in real life than the photos on CRC btw. I have the 2.0 as I didn't want that colour.
Yamaha MT09 SP
User avatar
Mr Moofo
Posts: 4620
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Location: Brightonish
Has thanked: 1829 times
Been thanked: 1469 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Mr Moofo »

Buy the 141. Bargain
And you are wrong on reach - just stop riding with a 125mm stem
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:57 pm Buy the 141. Bargain
It's a P3 though.... That worries me as it's 20mm longer reach than his P2.
User avatar
Mr Moofo
Posts: 4620
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Location: Brightonish
Has thanked: 1829 times
Been thanked: 1469 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Mr Moofo »

weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:00 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:57 pm Buy the 141. Bargain
It's a P3 though.... That worries me as it's 20mm longer reach than his P2.
My Cotic is 3 inches longer than the P4
I no longer notice it - other than I am more over front wheel if sitting down.
You are not exactly a hobbit!
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Agreed i'm not. But i worry as i didn't get on with the Aether, although that was even longer as it was 505mm, the Trek Fuel ex9.8 was 475mm. The P3 privateer 141 is 480

However, even at £1300 without brakes, if i fit my Codes to it then it still is unlikely to sell if i didn't gel with it. The 2nd hand market is fucked currently. He's had that up at £1650 for a fair while.
User avatar
Mr Moofo
Posts: 4620
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Location: Brightonish
Has thanked: 1829 times
Been thanked: 1469 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Mr Moofo »

But the Aether was very long - Cotic territory
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:16 pm But the Aether was very long - Cotic territory
I hear you man.... hence why i'm concerned. If that was a P2 i'd be collecting it this weekend as his mate is a marshal at Rhyd where the boy is racing.
User avatar
Mr Moofo
Posts: 4620
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Location: Brightonish
Has thanked: 1829 times
Been thanked: 1469 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by Mr Moofo »

480 is not a long reach. And remember that is standing. Actual privateer top tube length is very short
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23432
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5453 times
Been thanked: 13102 times

Re: HT thoughts mmmm (bop)

Post by weeksy »

I've just been out for a ride, then weighed both our 141 and Slayers.....

150gr difference between them.