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westers151 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:48 am
Here I am, this morning. Last night I got off the fence and was in the blue, but the same distance to the right. Neither of these surprised me in the slightest; I may not manage thousands, but I do have to get a lot of other people to do their fecking job so I can do mine :lol:

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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:16 pm Fascist!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

What's interesting is that Barrack Obama is purported to be slightly further to the right, and a fair bit more into the blue than me. If correct, that says a lot about what umericans believe to be "left wing". :)
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Docca wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:29 pm Image
You and my missus could start a political party....she's snuggled up with Mandela. :D

(Mind you she has form...she was part of the 'storming' of the French embassy - carrying a 'Free Danny the Red/Dany la Rouge*' placard. :lol: )

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Pretty much smack in the middle... which means I'm an extremist according to those on the left AND the right, daft fuckers.
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Genghis Khan isn't on the example chart.

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Greenman wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:16 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:21 pm I was firmly in the left economic libertarian box, which is interesting as I generally vote Conservative and dislike the Labour party because they want to control people too much.

But I found the questions a bit odd.

I saw a very interesting program about Nazi Germany this week, and apart from the racism, the Nazis were very left wing Socialists, and are a really good example of how to fuck running a country up.
Really, i think as they nearly took over the world they done a fairly good job, Hitler was a just mental.

Nope, all of them were useless, and by 1942 the ones with any sense could see they had no chance of winning the war, mind you, the Japanese military new they had little chance of winning after they failed to sink the US aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbour.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:12 pm
Greenman wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:16 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:21 pm I was firmly in the left economic libertarian box, which is interesting as I generally vote Conservative and dislike the Labour party because they want to control people too much.

But I found the questions a bit odd.

I saw a very interesting program about Nazi Germany this week, and apart from the racism, the Nazis were very left wing Socialists, and are a really good example of how to fuck running a country up.
Really, i think as they nearly took over the world they done a fairly good job, Hitler was a just mental.

Nope, all of them were useless, and by 1942 the ones with any sense could see they had no chance of winning the war, mind you, the Japanese military new they had little chance of winning after they failed to sink the US aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbour.
True.

They should of given away the opium in the Vietnam war to the viet cong for free instead of giving it to our soldiers...;)
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Was talking to a friend this morning about how little I consider politics/sides. So I thought I'd do this just to see.

Firstly, there were a few questions that I really didn't have an answer for

Secondly, it's not exactly a balanced questionnaire!!

FFS, where the balance to this question -
Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
Some of the questions really do not have any balance, but I don't really know what effect that would have on the outcome?


Anyway - here is me!! :lol: No idea what it means though! :lol:

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Noggin wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:20 pm Was talking to a friend this morning about how little I consider politics/sides. So I thought I'd do this just to see.

Firstly, there were a few questions that I really didn't have an answer for

Secondly, it's not exactly a balanced questionnaire!!

FFS, where the balance to this question -
Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
Some of the questions really do not have any balance, but I don't really know what effect that would have on the outcome?


Anyway - here is me!! :lol: No idea what it means though! :lol:

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Pretty middlin'
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Last time I did this test I was more or less in the Mandela/Ghandi area and I can't be arsed doing it again but now it seems that by answering fairly obviously leading questions I could have altered the results?

Wow, whodafuckinthunkit. Youz guys are geniussssses.
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demographic wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:12 pm but now it seems that by answering fairly obviously leading questions I could have altered the results?
Yep :lol:

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Potter wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:24 am
westers151 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:14 pm
This "test" is clearly designed to get a certain answer.
Yes and no.

It's a very blunt tool and designed to carve you up quite quickly into your pigeon hole - unsurprisingly most of you are natural libertarians because you all want your own way and none of you are senior leaders so you've never had to manage many thousands of people that want their own way.

I didn't like some of the options and I didn't like some of the answers I gave even if they're true, but if I answer honestly, then very unsurprisingly here I am...
I think that is pretty much where I'd expect you to be. From your posts I don't think you lean in anyone direction - you analyse and make a decision. If you are very analytical (in the way that I read from your posts), it wouldn't make sense to lean in any direction.

On a personal level, I suspect you are a bit different but that fits with what you've written above. (Not sure I've explained myself very well here, hope it makes sense!)


mangocrazy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:56 pm
You, me, Docca and JamJar are all pretty much in the same area of the green bit. Not sure what that proves or disproves...
I think that, where I grew up, we'd be called mad hippies or yoghurt weavers :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:30 am
KungFooBob wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:23 am I prefer those 'Which TOS Star Trek character are you?" Quizzes.
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{Dr. Leonard “Bones” McCoy
Damn it, Jim, I’m a Doctor, not a quiz result! You’re extremely smart, and can be a little underappreciated. You have a friendly rivalry with the ship’s First Officer, but everyone knows that the two of you do care about each other. You seem to be a stoic person, who keeps your feelings close to your chest, but you’re really just a big ole teddy bear.}

Not sure that's remotely safe!! :lol: And I do resent the "big ole" part of teddy bear :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I don’t know if I’ve done it wrong (the results are the same every time I take this test) but I view it no more seriously than a Take A Break ‘ which zoo animal are you?’ time wasting type.
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Potter wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:45 am
I think the point was more about why one might answer differently and whether it's because you are an idealist, a pragmatist, a fantasist or just a bit thick and want your own way like a petulant teenager but don't understand the ramifications. We're all libertarians when we want our own way, but do you have the emotional and political intelligence to understand what you're doing?

As for your sarcasm on the discussion of psychometric testing and manipulation of outcome...well...based on your posting I don't see you sharing intellectual space with Chomsky any time soon even if you do end up in the same political square as him.

The funny part about all that is that you share most of your political space on this forum with Ant.

It does indeed show that a short test is in no way indicative of the greater body of opinions expressed so I guess in that respect you're right?
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"Agree" or "strongly agree" mean the same, but may have different results. 🤷‍♂️
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LOL. First time I did it I was in a bit of a rush and misread the result...didn't scroll down enough. Done it a couple more times, a bit more leisurely. Once being a bit hmm/maybe and once being a bit more strongly agree/disagree. It all balanced out and the result didn't change much.

Turns out I'm closer to Mandela, -4.8 (left right) and - 4 in the libertarian zone on average. So, pretty much where I would have expected. The answers for anyone on the outer edges must be pretty :wtf: (I'll have a go to see if I can become Chomsky :lol: They should put Skinner on there too).
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In order the score the strong top left score all I had to do was imagine what my Mum would answer, if you'd locked her in a room with nothing to do but read the Daily Mail for a week.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:33 am In order the score the strong top left score all I had to do was imagine what my Mum would answer, if you'd locked her in a room with nothing to do but read the Daily Mail for a week.
:lol:

Potter mentioned pragmatists, idealists and dreamers up there. I think if I put my pragmatist head on I'd move towards the centre, if I put a dreamers head on, as I suspect most of us would, we'd be heading towards one or other of the theorists/philosopher types* (they tend to the boundaries). It's a bit more satisfying to do with 'gut instinct' though.

It would be nice to see a chart with more of them on - yer Hegels, Skinners, Machiavelli and the economics bods.
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