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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:15 pm There's at least one owner (I guess? He's gone quiet) who bought one because he prefers it on it's own merits. :D

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He's probably still out playing on it!! :lol: :lol:

Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:22 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:15 pm If I can get an EV next I will because they're genuinely better cars IMO
It still depends on what you want from a car. I like manual sports cars with character and excitement, so have little interest in switching to electric. My missus likes to be as removed from the process of driving as possible and likes quiet, refined, automatic cars. We're looking at electric for her next.
I love the idea of one. I very rarely do long distance drives and when I do I could easily organise it to allow for charging.

But where I live it probably won't be possible for some time. I'm in a first floor apartment without parking anywhere near.
There are a couple of charging points in the covered parking I can use in the winter, but I'm not sure how often I could actually take one of the spaces.
Living at 2000m is probably not ideal for the cold in the winter and the fact that it's about 22kms down a mountain before I drive anywhere sensible. I am sure I've been told that is not ideal either!!

But, TBF, if I could afford one and find decent parking, I'd probably got for a bike version cos that'd be a lot of fun I think

Like Slenver, I do like the idea of a manual sports car and whilst I suspect that electric would have its own buzz, I'm not sure it would match. In an ideal world I'd have an automatic every day car and a manual 2 seater soft top!! I suppose an electric could replace the everyday one :D :D :D (In about a million years when I can afford one - by which time everything will have changed, and I won't be able to drive anyway!! LOL)
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:53 pm However by 2030 I will be 84 (assuming i haven't fallen off my perch), so maybe I should stick with what I have? Or buy a little electric something since I will only drive 5 miles to Tesco and I can top it up there? Or be really outrageous and buy a pure ICE toy like a Mazda MX5?
I'd say you need to be a bit more outrageous with your outrageousness.

I'd suggest this for sir... :D

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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:26 pm PS @Slenver at £500/month is saving a few p on running cost really an issue?
I'd certainly say so. Difference between, say 40 and 80mpg is about £800/year, so £2,400 over a 3-year lease. I'd very much prefer to save that!
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Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:26 pm PS @Slenver at £500/month is saving a few p on running cost really an issue?
I'd certainly say so. Difference between, say 40 and 80mpg is about £800/year, so £2,400 over a 3-year lease. I'd very much prefer to save that!
Well, of course you would....it's not your car. :lol:
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:23 pm
Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:26 pm PS @Slenver at £500/month is saving a few p on running cost really an issue?
I'd certainly say so. Difference between, say 40 and 80mpg is about £800/year, so £2,400 over a 3-year lease. I'd very much prefer to save that!

Well, of course you would....it's not your car. :lol:
She thinks filling up with fuel is a blue job.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:15 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:53 pm However by 2030 I will be 84 (assuming i haven't fallen off my perch), so maybe I should stick with what I have? Or buy a little electric something since I will only drive 5 miles to Tesco and I can top it up there? Or be really outrageous and buy a pure ICE toy like a Mazda MX5?
I'd say you need to be a bit more outrageous with your outrageousness.

I'd suggest this for sir... :D

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... 5117262631
I like the outrageousness, but the running costs would cripple me! A neighbour had a Vantage, not only did it drink petrol like a fish, but servicing (collection on a truck since the nearest Aston Martin dealer is 160 miles away) was mortgage territory.
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Yeah, all of that. I'd like to own one for six months perhaps and then hand it back...
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Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:25 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:23 pm
Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm

I'd certainly say so. Difference between, say 40 and 80mpg is about £800/year, so £2,400 over a 3-year lease. I'd very much prefer to save that!

Well, of course you would....it's not your car. :lol:
She thinks filling up with fuel is a blue job.
I assume that that's a 'bloke's job' :D (The alternative might put a smile on the petrol station attendant's face and might be a good deal for a £100 tank full but all the same.... :lol: ).
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:39 pm I assume that that's a 'bloke's job' :D (The alternative might put a smile on the petrol station attendant's face and might be a good deal for a £100 tank full but all the same.... :lol: ).
A year's insurance maybe, but not a single tank full 🙂
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:34 pm (collection on a truck since the nearest Aston Martin dealer is 160 miles away)
I get Mrs. D's shitwagon Civic serviced, MoTd etc. at a local back street garage which isn't on a back street at all, it's directly opposite Aston Martin's old factory and current flagship dealer/classics workshop in on Tickford Street in Newport Pagnell. They've got some tasty tasty stuff parked on the forecourt, but it's somewhat let down by the fact you can see all the staffs' Ford Fiestas parked down the side :D
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Yes, MK has a few tasty back-street dealers, I used to get Mrs CJs Merc done at a German car specialist, originally in Stony, who then move out to Sherington. The place was a big shed, but he had a fantastic Merc he was restoring, and often a couple of Porsches with their engines out on the bench.
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Horse wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:14 pm UK sales

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Interesting, I would have put Kia a lot higher than that based on how many of their EV's I see on the roads round here.
Teslas make a fair showing locally, and I even saw a Ford Mustang Mach E when I was over the other side of town last night.

I'm still genuinely surprised Couchy sees so few EVs where he is cos anywhere I drive theres quite a lot of em. There's either very few where he is or his eyes are painted on.

On Sunday I drove about 6 miles out of town to walk the dog through some woodland and there and back there were about ten with two Teslas within 300 hards. Five Teslas in total (three whites and two greys) a couple of VW's and a couple of Kias and IIRC one Hyundai.
And pretty much all over Cumbria and Southwest Scotland where I'm working is more or less the same.
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Yeah, but are you seeing them because they're a novelty? I see hundreds/thousands of cars on a drive back from Sheffield to Stafford, and I always 'notice' a Tesla when I (infrequently) see one as they stick out like a sore thumb.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:39 pm
Slenver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:25 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:23 pm

Well, of course you would....it's not your car. :lol:
She thinks filling up with fuel is a blue job.
I assume that that's a 'bloke's job' :D (The alternative might put a smile on the petrol station attendant's face and might be a good deal for a £100 tank full but all the same.... :lol: ).
I think he mean blue jobs vs pink jobs. ;)
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:40 pm Yeah, but are you seeing them because they're a novelty? I see hundreds/thousands of cars on a drive back from Sheffield to Stafford, and I always 'notice' a Tesla when I (infrequently) see one as they stick out like a sore thumb.
Well, I've been playing 'yellow car' with EVs ever since Couchy said he doesn't see many in and around Mansfield. Most days I'd estimate they're between 5 and 10% of the vehicles I see (excluding commercials). (20-30% are SUVs). Lots of Teslas, Hyundais, Minis etc. (+ a few Twizys :D ).

What I glean from that is, unsurprisingly, they're more popular where there's more money.
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I can't work out if I like those electric Mini "plug socket" wheels or not.

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The have a look of old fashioned science fiction to me, maybe the 1970s.

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Count Steer wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:14 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:40 pm Yeah, but are you seeing them because they're a novelty? I see hundreds/thousands of cars on a drive back from Sheffield to Stafford, and I always 'notice' a Tesla when I (infrequently) see one as they stick out like a sore thumb.
Well, I've been playing 'yellow car' with EVs ever since Couchy said he doesn't see many in and around Mansfield. Most days I'd estimate they're between 5 and 10% of the vehicles I see (excluding commercials). (20-30% are SUVs). Lots of Teslas, Hyundais, Minis etc. (+ a few Twizys :D ).

What I glean from that is, unsurprisingly, they're more popular where there's more money.
The last bit is exactly right, mansfield is a poor ex mining town where the average car is well under £5k and bought cash.
I do see people saying you can buy an EV for that, assuming these people did it will be rubbish with a range barely 50 miles. Sounds ok but a lot of these have no off street parking so they’ll be charging at the public charge points and in a lot of cases paying more per mile than diesel. As these people are priced off the road it’ll come back and hit all of us as they also do the lowest paid essential jobs that keep the country going.
So those that can afford it are raking them up what’s the answer for those that can’t ?
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Couchy wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:58 am
Count Steer wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:14 am What I glean from that is, unsurprisingly, they're more popular where there's more money.
The last bit is exactly right, mansfield is a poor ex mining town where the average car is well under £5k and bought cash.
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So those that can afford it are raking them up what’s the answer for those that can’t ?
Even if they could charge at home, if it needs installation of a charger (£1k?), that's going to influence options and choices.

But it's not that clear-cut as a 'rich area' Vs 'poor'. In the affluent areas, living costs are higher in those areas (look at housing costs as one example). Much of the housing is flats, so similarly low opportunities for charging.
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