Street Triple ownership
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Street Triple ownership
My Street Triple crossed the 10000 mile mark the other day so I guess that I should post how I've found the ownership experience.
Firstly,I only planned on owning the bike for a couple of years,I've now had it for 5 years & just over 8000 miles so I think it's staying,hence this post.
I bought the bike in March 2018,4 Years old with only 1718 miles on it,just as the 'Beast from the East' struck .
At the time I was running two old Yamaha's a 1985 FZ750 & a 1986 XT600, for the previous 15 years my main hobby had been mountain bikes but I wanted to slow down & get back into motorbikes so the Street Triple seemed a good choice for getting back up to speed.
Despite my many years riding bikes this was my first FI bike & it's my only bike with ABS.The clutch & sidestand safety switches were also new tech to me,so it was a good bike to get back into things
First mod was getting this Oz spec dust guard for the rear.
Sure it looks crap,but the Street triple's are notorious for covering the rider in road debris in the rain,you get what cyclists refer to as a 'Badger Stripe',I'd rather walk around without my back being covered in crap every time it rains
At the front I fitted a Beowolf radiator guard & Carbon FBR Front mudguard as the standard front mudguard is really short,don't Triumph test riders ride these bikes in wet weather,or is it some kind of sunny micro climate in Hinckley
Here you can see the front mudguard & Renntec touring rack
Firstly,I only planned on owning the bike for a couple of years,I've now had it for 5 years & just over 8000 miles so I think it's staying,hence this post.
I bought the bike in March 2018,4 Years old with only 1718 miles on it,just as the 'Beast from the East' struck .
At the time I was running two old Yamaha's a 1985 FZ750 & a 1986 XT600, for the previous 15 years my main hobby had been mountain bikes but I wanted to slow down & get back into motorbikes so the Street Triple seemed a good choice for getting back up to speed.
Despite my many years riding bikes this was my first FI bike & it's my only bike with ABS.The clutch & sidestand safety switches were also new tech to me,so it was a good bike to get back into things
First mod was getting this Oz spec dust guard for the rear.
Sure it looks crap,but the Street triple's are notorious for covering the rider in road debris in the rain,you get what cyclists refer to as a 'Badger Stripe',I'd rather walk around without my back being covered in crap every time it rains
At the front I fitted a Beowolf radiator guard & Carbon FBR Front mudguard as the standard front mudguard is really short,don't Triumph test riders ride these bikes in wet weather,or is it some kind of sunny micro climate in Hinckley
Here you can see the front mudguard & Renntec touring rack
- Rockburner
- Posts: 4380
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:06 am
- Location: Hiding in your blind spot
- Has thanked: 7821 times
- Been thanked: 2531 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
not a single modern bike has a "proper" front mudguard. Not even BMWs.
non quod, sed quomodo
- Dodgy69
- Posts: 5467
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:36 pm
- Location: Shrewsbury
- Has thanked: 1750 times
- Been thanked: 2085 times
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
Not noticeably worse than any other bike I've ridden.
The salesman at the local Triumph dealer was trying to buy the bike off me the other month,he gave it the once over & picked up on the rear mudguard straight away,he lamented that Triumph don't make them any more & a few days earlier he had to take a new 765 Street Triple for a short spin & suffered the 'Badger Stripe'. Modern bike's seem to be style over function..
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
As a 5'6 short arse the bike fits me well & it's proven to be a good tourer.At the 2017 Classic TT I was talking to a Street Triple owner,about the same size as me,& he said that he'd toured Europe on it without any problems & whilst I haven't took it over the channel (we should have gone to Mugello in 2020,but Covid spannered that one) I have done a tour on it around Scotland last year based out of Crieff & down to South West Ireland last month,the bike's been great.It's also been to the Isle of Man a few times for the Classic TT.One thing I enjoy is the induction roar when you properly wind it open going over the mountain on the Isle of Man,it's probably the best sounding bike I've owned
Here it is in touring mode
The other year I bought a SW Motech PRO Tank bag,but I tend to get low over the front so the tank bag gets in the way
Upgrades/Mods.I find the suspension 'Choppy' & it's oversprung for me,I can't get the sag where I want it & I've read that the rear shock's sprung for 13 stone,but the forks are a lot softer.I'm a skinny cyclist & with my riding gear I weigh less than 12 stone,now that I've decided to keep the bike I'll invest in a Nitron for the back & try 5 weight front fork oil.
I fitted Road 5's the other year,had no issues,when it's time for new tyres I'll probably stick with Michelin
Triumph dealer servicing seems extortionate,so I do the oil & filter & Triumph tech Muddy Sump did the 6000 mile service,on the forum's a lot of people praise Clive Wood for Triumph servicing but hes a 350 mile round trip from here & Muddy Sump is booked up until next Feb,so I might try to get to Clive Woods this autumn for the 12K service.The local Triumph dealer quotes £657 plus £180 for valve clearance adjustment
Here it is in touring mode
The other year I bought a SW Motech PRO Tank bag,but I tend to get low over the front so the tank bag gets in the way
Upgrades/Mods.I find the suspension 'Choppy' & it's oversprung for me,I can't get the sag where I want it & I've read that the rear shock's sprung for 13 stone,but the forks are a lot softer.I'm a skinny cyclist & with my riding gear I weigh less than 12 stone,now that I've decided to keep the bike I'll invest in a Nitron for the back & try 5 weight front fork oil.
I fitted Road 5's the other year,had no issues,when it's time for new tyres I'll probably stick with Michelin
Triumph dealer servicing seems extortionate,so I do the oil & filter & Triumph tech Muddy Sump did the 6000 mile service,on the forum's a lot of people praise Clive Wood for Triumph servicing but hes a 350 mile round trip from here & Muddy Sump is booked up until next Feb,so I might try to get to Clive Woods this autumn for the 12K service.The local Triumph dealer quotes £657 plus £180 for valve clearance adjustment
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
Issues & reliability; When you read the forums these bike's come across as fickle beasts,mainly dodgy electrics...
Owners of the earlier underseat exhaust version have problems with Reg/Recs,Stators & wiring stretching around the headstock
My version has reports of similar Reg/Rec & Stator failures despite the Reg/Rec being a Mosfet.Owners say to keep the oil level on the 'full' mark on the dipstick as the stator runs in oil & it's a good idea to try & keep it as cool as possible,so also avoid fitting case covers on this side for the same reason.
I also keep the battery on a smart charger & fitted one of those cheap & unobtrusive Ebay LED voltmeters for peace of mind
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201338527109 ... R-Dq3NiiYg
So far the electrics have been faultless,I replaced the battery earlier this year but the old one was working fine.
Another electrical 'quirk' with this model is the headlights melting
If you leave the bike ticking over the headlights get really hot & melt the lens,I don't leave mine ticking over
I had a bit of a tight spot on the chain & I noticed the bike made a bit of a whirring noise at about 40mph so last autumn I fitted new chain & sprockets
The front sprocket was more worn than the rear but it was more to do with the tight spot on the chain that I replaced the lot at 8000 miles.
The whiring noise is still there
Owners of the earlier underseat exhaust version have problems with Reg/Recs,Stators & wiring stretching around the headstock
My version has reports of similar Reg/Rec & Stator failures despite the Reg/Rec being a Mosfet.Owners say to keep the oil level on the 'full' mark on the dipstick as the stator runs in oil & it's a good idea to try & keep it as cool as possible,so also avoid fitting case covers on this side for the same reason.
I also keep the battery on a smart charger & fitted one of those cheap & unobtrusive Ebay LED voltmeters for peace of mind
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201338527109 ... R-Dq3NiiYg
So far the electrics have been faultless,I replaced the battery earlier this year but the old one was working fine.
Another electrical 'quirk' with this model is the headlights melting
If you leave the bike ticking over the headlights get really hot & melt the lens,I don't leave mine ticking over
I had a bit of a tight spot on the chain & I noticed the bike made a bit of a whirring noise at about 40mph so last autumn I fitted new chain & sprockets
The front sprocket was more worn than the rear but it was more to do with the tight spot on the chain that I replaced the lot at 8000 miles.
The whiring noise is still there
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
I've only had one issue with the bike,the other month halfway around a run up to Devils Bridge,the fuelling went a bit off at low revs.The bike started popping a bit on the over run & started to feel a little 'snatchy' on small throttle openings but fine when you opened it up.
The other year the bike had the 6000 mile service & everything was as it should be,but now that the bike had done 8700 miles I thought it wise to change the plugs.Sounds straight forward but as the most tech I had dealt with up to this point was my FZ750 it was a bit of an eye opener.
You have to remove the ECU & a few sensors to remove the airbox lid,I got my sockets out realised all the bolts were 7mm heads.
We were going to Ireland on the friday & got a bit worried about cocking something up,so for the only time in my life I got the local bike shop to change the plugs
New plugs fitted & it's better,but still not right,it'll have to do.Time to go on tour,now another problem arose,on the way to the ferry I noticed that the cam chain was suddenly rattling
One of the quirks with these bike's is that the camchain gets noisy befrore the CCT moves to the next notch,or the CCT does'nt move to the next notch & fails...
In this case the cam chain quietened down the next day
After I got back from Ireland I decided to do some investigating about 675 low rev's misfiring & surging.
Turns out on the Daytona's & some Street Triple's the Crank Position Sensor has failed causing stumbling & missfires at low revs.
The other fault that causes a low revs misfire is to do with the Secondary Air Injection system,some have had splits in the hose others had reed valves fail.Armed with this knowledge I lifted the tank & decided to get stuck in..
The other year the bike had the 6000 mile service & everything was as it should be,but now that the bike had done 8700 miles I thought it wise to change the plugs.Sounds straight forward but as the most tech I had dealt with up to this point was my FZ750 it was a bit of an eye opener.
You have to remove the ECU & a few sensors to remove the airbox lid,I got my sockets out realised all the bolts were 7mm heads.
We were going to Ireland on the friday & got a bit worried about cocking something up,so for the only time in my life I got the local bike shop to change the plugs
New plugs fitted & it's better,but still not right,it'll have to do.Time to go on tour,now another problem arose,on the way to the ferry I noticed that the cam chain was suddenly rattling
One of the quirks with these bike's is that the camchain gets noisy befrore the CCT moves to the next notch,or the CCT does'nt move to the next notch & fails...
In this case the cam chain quietened down the next day
After I got back from Ireland I decided to do some investigating about 675 low rev's misfiring & surging.
Turns out on the Daytona's & some Street Triple's the Crank Position Sensor has failed causing stumbling & missfires at low revs.
The other fault that causes a low revs misfire is to do with the Secondary Air Injection system,some have had splits in the hose others had reed valves fail.Armed with this knowledge I lifted the tank & decided to get stuck in..
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
I lifted the tank up.but unlike the other week when I got the plugs changed,this time the tank was full of fuel & after a couple of minutes with the tank lifted petrol was coming out of the overflow,so I decided to go for a ride & lift the tank later when it's only half full.When I started the bike I noticed that the fuel pump was sounding a bit different,presumably something to do with the tank having been at a angle?
I'll swear that after this,the bike has been running better at low revs.Next stop was to invest in the Tuneecu app,& check the fault codes,I got no fault codes.I took the bike for a spin to Devils Bridge the other day & it's not 100% perfect but so much better than it had been for the last couple of months.I don't think most people would know it's not quite right.
I lifted the now almost emty tank again the other day & here's what it looks like when you get the airbox off
I thought whatever's been playing up is something to do with the SAI system,now I'm wondering if after tilting the full tank for a while it's somehow dislodged something?.The grey hose is from the airbox & goes into the SAI gubbins,the two smaller black hoses go into the Reed Valve covers on top of the cam box.I'm tempted to take the Reed Valves out & inspect them,there's no splits or leaks apparent on the SAI hoses,but as the bike's now running really good again & there's no fault codes I think I'll leave it.
I'll swear that after this,the bike has been running better at low revs.Next stop was to invest in the Tuneecu app,& check the fault codes,I got no fault codes.I took the bike for a spin to Devils Bridge the other day & it's not 100% perfect but so much better than it had been for the last couple of months.I don't think most people would know it's not quite right.
I lifted the now almost emty tank again the other day & here's what it looks like when you get the airbox off
I thought whatever's been playing up is something to do with the SAI system,now I'm wondering if after tilting the full tank for a while it's somehow dislodged something?.The grey hose is from the airbox & goes into the SAI gubbins,the two smaller black hoses go into the Reed Valve covers on top of the cam box.I'm tempted to take the Reed Valves out & inspect them,there's no splits or leaks apparent on the SAI hoses,but as the bike's now running really good again & there's no fault codes I think I'll leave it.
-
- Posts: 11236
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:40 pm
- Location: The road of many manky motorcycles
- Has thanked: 607 times
- Been thanked: 4124 times
- Skub
- Posts: 12176
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
- Location: Norn Iron
- Has thanked: 9836 times
- Been thanked: 10149 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
I can't see the PAIR system causing any rough running,it's just recycled fumes to comply with Euro bollox. I blanked mine off before the ecu flash.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
When I was in the local Triumph/ Suzuki dealer the other month,I mentioned that my other bike is a SV650,the salesman said that their head mechanic loved SV650's,'You just change the oil & filter and they run forever'. He never mentioned the mechanics opinion on Street Triple'sLe_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:27 pm Nice write up, but it does make me glad I bought a Suzuki
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
To be fair,the low revs missfire is the only problem I've had,but they do appear to be fickle beastsPotter wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:37 pm Good write up, I toyed with the idea of one of these when the latest ones came out, my mate that I used to race MX with got one and raved about it.
He's never complained about any issues but to be fair I don't see him so often anymore, I see him FB out on it plenty though.
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
Maybe the 675 Street Triple's & Daytona's are a bit sensitive to SAI faults?
Qn the Daytona forums people blank off the SAI system for track bikes,but they then have to get the ECU flashed to get the correct O2 readings.
-
- Posts: 11236
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:40 pm
- Location: The road of many manky motorcycles
- Has thanked: 607 times
- Been thanked: 4124 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
I get the same take from the mechanic at my local Suzuki / KTM / Kawasaki dealership, Suzukis run for ever, Kawasakis need a little more and he's rather not talk about KTMs.Bustaspoke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:15 pmWhen I was in the local Triumph/ Suzuki dealer the other month,I mentioned that my other bike is a SV650,the salesman said that their head mechanic loved SV650's,'You just change the oil & filter and they run forever'. He never mentioned the mechanics opinion on Street Triple'sLe_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:27 pm Nice write up, but it does make me glad I bought a Suzuki
I know someone with a Street Triple that's thrown a rod, he's now looking at getting a KTM.
Honda Owner
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
That's the first I've heard of a Street Triple throwing a rod. When I did my research before I bought mine I read a article about buying a 675 Daytona that said to listen for the crank knocking.Triumph raised the sump capacity by fitting later models with shorter dip sticks.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:49 pm [I know someone with a Street Triple that's thrown a rod, he's now looking at getting a KTM.
- KungFooBob
- Posts: 14223
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
- Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
- Has thanked: 539 times
- Been thanked: 7539 times
- Dodgy69
- Posts: 5467
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:36 pm
- Location: Shrewsbury
- Has thanked: 1750 times
- Been thanked: 2085 times
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
I should have been going on a ride to the Dales tomorrow,but I've been dog rough with some manflu thing all week so I'm not going.
To make up for my lack of commitment, this afternoon I treated the Street Triple to a fork oil change.The bike's done just over 10k now so I thought it was due some new fork oil & I treated it to some fancy Motul .
I don't have a service tool for USD forks so I just did the Dave Moss 'Dump & Run method.
I'll give it a test run tomorrow just to make sure everything's good.
To make up for my lack of commitment, this afternoon I treated the Street Triple to a fork oil change.The bike's done just over 10k now so I thought it was due some new fork oil & I treated it to some fancy Motul .
I don't have a service tool for USD forks so I just did the Dave Moss 'Dump & Run method.
I'll give it a test run tomorrow just to make sure everything's good.
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
- Has thanked: 3262 times
- Been thanked: 1737 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
The oil was a lot better than I expected.I was aware of the common belief that motorcycle manufacturers use glorified fish oil when they assemble forks so it was a pleasant surprise to see the contents.
One thing that's immediately apparent between the Street Triple R & my SV650 is that when I push down on the forks the Triumph's really firm & the Suzuki's really soft despite the Suzuki preload being dialled up & 15 weight oil,the Triumph now runs 5 weight oil & the preload only in 1 click.
I would prefer the Triumph to be a bit softer & the Suzuki a bit firmer..
One thing that's immediately apparent between the Street Triple R & my SV650 is that when I push down on the forks the Triumph's really firm & the Suzuki's really soft despite the Suzuki preload being dialled up & 15 weight oil,the Triumph now runs 5 weight oil & the preload only in 1 click.
I would prefer the Triumph to be a bit softer & the Suzuki a bit firmer..
- Taipan
- Posts: 13966
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
- Location: Essex Riviera!
- Has thanked: 15981 times
- Been thanked: 10258 times
Re: Street Triple ownership
As Potter says, well done for doing it before it turns to shitwater! As an a side, does anyone know if Dave Moss survived? I read recently he'd been hospitalised and was seriously ill with sepsis?