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The result will be that he will know where the good cover is and where the bad cover is. Will be informative for others in future :)
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slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:13 pm I think he’s going for YT hits but the impression was to make out touring great distances across continents was possible with an electric bike. It might’ve worked but the support jeep kinda spoils it.
It does I guess. But the Long Way Round guys had a full support team with them all the way (I believe) so TBH, having a back up when riding a vehicle that needs to be charged and not being totally sure just how many charging points are around just makes sense to me.

If the most publicised bikers doing long trips had done it solo (or at least without a support team) I guess I'd have less sympathy!!
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slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:13 pm I think he’s going for YT hits but the impression was to make out touring great distances across continents was possible with an electric bike. It might’ve worked but the support jeep kinda spoils it.
It's not a support Jeep, it's a bloody Jimny, and it's not a support Jimny, the driver is his missus along for the jollies, he does explain how it's a better experience having her with him whilst touring.
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But only if she follows a safe distance behind in the car :D
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:30 pm
, the driver is his missus along for the jollies, he does explain how it's a better experience having her with him whilst touring.
I know that, and yeah that’s great, but why didn’t she go pillion then. And yes, it is a support Jeep/jimmy or whatever.
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slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:12 pm I know that, and yeah that’s great, but why didn’t she go pillion then.
Loss of luggage carrying capability, reduced bike range, loss of roof tent etc etc etc lack of ability for her to continue her business
slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:12 pm And yes, it is a support Jeep/jimmy or whatever.
Nah, he'd not be needing to order drive belts to be delivered ahead if it were a true support vehicle
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slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:12 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:30 pm
, the driver is his missus along for the jollies, he does explain how it's a better experience having her with him whilst touring.
I know that, and yeah that’s great, but why didn’t she go pillion then. And yes, it is a support Jeep/jimmy or whatever.
We've had long holidays with GSXR1000 in camper.
Some days I'll ride the bike.
Some days I'll ride in the camper.

It worked for us. It seems to work for them :)
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i think that’s a bit different Yorick. The RV sounds like a great deal


I think it’s different because marc is making out the ev bike is a capable tourer on its own terms, and that’s a little misleading.
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:28 pm
Noggin wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:14 pm Kind of defeats the object of seeing if riding an EV bike around is possible :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No different to him carrying spare batteries on the bike & charging them at overnight stops.. which apparently didn't occur to him either.
:think:
Yeah, how many 100kg batteries can a 200kg (inc battery) bike carry??
He's gonna need a couple of chonking big saddle bags

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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:18 pm
Nah, he'd not be needing to order drive belts to be delivered ahead if it were a true support vehicle
I don’t think a snapped drive belt occurred to him. i was surprised it snapped. If you never packed one, you’d have to order one.

Yeah, it would be a lot of kit to carry around on yr own, especially with a pillion, but doable in a true test, which is what i originally thought this adventure was all about. If it really is just a jolly, that’s great! It’s certainly been fun for them & they’ve ticked off some interesting places.
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slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:29 pm
I think it’s different because marc is making out the ev bike is a capable tourer on its own terms, and that’s a little misleading.
I don't see it, what's misleading, he's a bloke having fun, making money and maybe trying to prove a point
slowhare wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:40 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:18 pm
Nah, he'd not be needing to order drive belts to be delivered ahead if it were a true support vehicle
I don’t think a snapped drive belt occurred to him. i was surprised it snapped. If you never packed one, you’d have to order one.

Yeah, it would be a lot of kit to carry around on yr own, especially with a pillion, but doable in a true test, which is what i originally thought this adventure was all about. If it really is just a jolly, that’s great! It’s certainly been fun for them & they’ve ticked off some interesting places.
It didn't occur to him so much that he had a spare on him already.... he didn't carry spares in the Jimny because it's not a support vehicle, same for his tyres, he hasn't fixed his knackered brake discs because the Jimny isn't being used as a support vehicle, any support vehicle would have belts, tyres and brakes as a bare bare minimum.

I don't see it as a test let alone a 'true test', it's a bloke who has done long distance touring already and decided to see if he could do it on an e-bike, he gets to go on a jolly with his missus, have an adventure and make some money off of Youtube
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:36 pm
ZRX61 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:28 pm
Noggin wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:14 pm Kind of defeats the object of seeing if riding an EV bike around is possible :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No different to him carrying spare batteries on the bike & charging them at overnight stops.. which apparently didn't occur to him either.
:think:
Yeah, how many 100kg batteries can a 200kg (inc battery) bike carry??
He's gonna need a couple of chonking big saddle bags

Or a trailer. Aha. I'm onto something here ;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:43 pm But only if she follows a safe distance behind in the car :D
Aside: a mate was taking his bike in for a service. His wife followed to collect him. Then punted him off at a set of lights.

She also crashed one of their cars into the other one. And knocked down 10 metres of their garden wall :)
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The new JLR battery factory is going to be supplied with Lithium form... Cornwall.

Self sufficient car production, or a blot on the tourist landscape.

It's Southern, so I don't care :)
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:49 pm
I don't see it, what's misleading, he's a bloke having fun, making money and maybe trying to prove a point
Yeah, the point being an electric bike is a comparable tourer, but he’s not doing that, he’s having a jolly, so that’s fine.
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:24 pm The new JLR battery factory is going to be supplied with Lithium form... Cornwall.

Self sufficient car production, or a blot on the tourist landscape.

It's Southern, so I don't care :)
Cornwall has thousands of mines. The locals won't mind a few more if it brings in a few bob
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:24 pm The new JLR battery factory is going to be supplied with Lithium form... Cornwall.

Self sufficient car production, or a blot on the tourist landscape.
They used to mine lead in Cornwall, so it's keeping with technology to mine Lithium now :thumbup:
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Couchy wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:00 am Friend has the new Porsche Taycan with the sound generator, yup it makes an engine noise to the outside world lol. Nice car and quick but still does nothing for me. Fake engine note aside it's the same noise as a Nissan leaf. Lease plus electric still works out more expensive than running a diesel and you still have the EV downsides. We see a lot of care dealers whilst installing charge points and most are saying the market for selling to private buyers is dead. Lease companies and low BIK are all that's keeping the market going and as soon as the tax benefits change it'll kill that too. It's still rare to see an EV up here, maybe see 2 or 3 a week.
Im not joking here but what backwater do you live in?

I see more Teslas than that most days in Carlisle, let alone other EVs included.

The last cew weeks Ive been working xlose to home so have only done less than thirty miles a week work driving and Ive seen more EVs than that per day.
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Yorick wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:43 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:24 pm The new JLR battery factory is going to be supplied with Lithium form... Cornwall.

Self sufficient car production, or a blot on the tourist landscape.

It's Southern, so I don't care :)
Cornwall has thousands of mines. The locals won't mind a few more if it brings in a few bob
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demographic wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:09 pm
Couchy wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:00 am Friend has the new Porsche Taycan with the sound generator, yup it makes an engine noise to the outside world lol. Nice car and quick but still does nothing for me. Fake engine note aside it's the same noise as a Nissan leaf. Lease plus electric still works out more expensive than running a diesel and you still have the EV downsides. We see a lot of care dealers whilst installing charge points and most are saying the market for selling to private buyers is dead. Lease companies and low BIK are all that's keeping the market going and as soon as the tax benefits change it'll kill that too. It's still rare to see an EV up here, maybe see 2 or 3 a week.
Im not joking here but what backwater do you live in?

I see more Teslas than that most days in Carlisle, let alone other EVs included.

The last cew weeks Ive been working xlose to home so have only done less than thirty miles a week work driving and Ive seen more EVs than that per day.
If I drive up to the M25 I see plenty of them but a 30 minute drive south and they are pretty rare, there are about 7 EV charging points in town I can think of but it's very rare I see a car using one.