Count Steer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:51 pm I've seen t'world's biggest one at Font-Romeu. (It's 60 years old and 1megawatt).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odeillo_solar_furnace
Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
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Don't they use that one for mega hot testing/experiments? Really good way of smashing 1MW into something almost instantly without chemical contaminants etc.Count Steer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:51 pm I've seen t'world's biggest one at Font-Romeu. (It's 60 years old and 1megawatt).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odeillo_solar_furnace
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Yuss.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:43 pmDon't they use that one for mega hot testing/experiments? Really good way of smashing 1MW into something almost instantly without chemical contaminants etc.Count Steer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:51 pm I've seen t'world's biggest one at Font-Romeu. (It's 60 years old and 1megawatt).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odeillo_solar_furnace
Travel guide section: Font-Romeu is one of the oldest ski resorts in France, the Little Yellow Train goes there, some athletes go there for highish altitude training and there's a citadel/Fort in the vicinity where they train some of the equivalent of our commandos. Nice area.
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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Debunked website debunks false claims about EV's...
https://insideevs.com/news/672926/china ... byd-geely/
I should have posted the link that was posted on CCD... so Piranha & Screwd could debunk the debunked debunking
https://insideevs.com/news/672926/china ... byd-geely/
I should have posted the link that was posted on CCD... so Piranha & Screwd could debunk the debunked debunking
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If they convert the christmas lights to UV, they could charge the batteries while on the way to a call....
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The whole renewable market seems a bit lacking in good design, I think there are still enough people who will buy it without thinking too much.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:28 pm Yeah solar panels are what...20% efficient at best, and the rest gets turned into heat. AFAIK as they get hotter that efficiency gets worse. Something about band gaps, quantum physics or summit!
But, it does always raise the question in my mind, why doesn't anyone make combined PV/water heater units for the roof? All the wasted energy in PVs becomes heat anyway. I'm sure there are reasons, probably even good ones.
I came close to getting solar hot water but realised the small tank size and slow heating rate meant much of it's potential was wasted, there's plenty of time on many days to heat a day's worth of water but that isn't much good when the tank doesn't hold enough for everyone to have a shower, the subsidised £7k quote I got wasn't much good for 2 showers a day for half the year.
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I read a similar story a couple of weeks ago with better pictures, there's nothing to debunk. It only affects the Chinese market.ZRX61 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:13 pm Debunked website debunks false claims about EV's...
https://insideevs.com/news/672926/china ... byd-geely/
I should have posted the link that was posted on CCD... so Piranha & Screwd could debunk the debunked debunking
Meanwhile in Europe VW are reducing EV production because it's cheaper to run a fossil fuels car and people aren't buying them.
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Ha ha. Gotcha.Potter wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:02 pmI doubt it's got that much to do with 'cheap' and more to do with reluctance because the infrastructure still isn't there.
People buying EVs aren't normally bogged down by looking to buy on the cheap, they're happy to pay good money, but anyone I talk to outside of city life isn't that keen because they don't want to get stuck halfway down the A34 with no charger to use.
I don't drive down the A34 so I'll be OK
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Is the South of England's version of the Bermuda Triangle
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I don't need an EV to get stuck galf way down the A34.
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Only if you want to cause the traffic jam.
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Hang on a sec... You said that CCD posts nothing but bullshit, conspiracies & misinformation (paraphrased)... & now there's a YT video that claims these acres of EV's in China were dumped in fields etc so the manufacturers could claim subsidies etc fr the number of EV's sold.. which apparently isn't true according to this:
https://climatechangedispatch.com/china ... ge-fields/
Which is the exact same report as the one I posted yesterday...& now you say there's nothing to debunk? So do you agree with a report on CCD that debunked the YouTubers video claims...or do you agree with his conspiracy theory?
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I’m watching Marc Travels on YT atm. He’s touring on an EV bike although his other half is shadowing him in a loaded jeep just in case. He seems to be doing OK although Turkey has been a bit of a pain with finding chargers and his daily range is limited.
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It didn't occur to him to carry 2 or 3 spare batteries in the Jeep & rig it to charge them?
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Kind of defeats the object of seeing if riding an EV bike around is possible
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No different to him carrying spare batteries on the bike & charging them at overnight stops.. which apparently didn't occur to him either.
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No i don’t think so, and no one’s suggested it to him either. The cost would be prohibitive wouldn’t it? His bike is a belt driven EVE which in fairness seems quite capable but I’d be put off by the lack of charge points, time spent charging & the limited range.
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Those were exactly my thoughts, but he gets quite upset when it’s mentioned.
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Depends - is the point of the trip to see if it's possible without the backup or is it a jolly so extras are fine?
If it's the first, then having a back up vehicle but trying to only use actual charging points makes sense
If it's a jolly and he was gonna rig up what you suggest - might as well go in a car?
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I think he’s going for YT hits but the impression was to make out touring great distances across continents was possible with an electric bike. It might’ve worked but the support jeep kinda spoils it.