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[Ant]

The only reason 'remainers' "won't stop going on about it" is that some of you brexiters are such fecking fibbers.

No, it's because you couldn't get your own way. We had a vote, so did you. If you didn't like the outcome, then why bother voting at all?

[DefTrap]

No, it's because you couldn't' get your own way. We had a vote, so did you. If you didn't like the outcome, then why bother voting at all?

When are you ever happy when the 'side' you vote isn't the majority?
When Labour win the next GE, the Tories just pack it in and go home forever?

[Ant]

No, it's because you couldn't' get your own way. We had a vote, so did you. If you didn't like the outcome, then why bother voting at all?

When are you ever happy when the 'side' you vote isn't the majority?
When Labour win the next GE, the Tories just pack it in and go home forever?

Pretty much how it is yes. If Labour wins, then everyone gets on with it as we've always done.

BTW there aren't any Tories anymore (no idea why people still use that term). Tories left the party in the 19th century.

[Count Steer]

He's obviously clueless then. Refugees in the channel are being rescued and are being so by the Red Cross and the Navy and are brought to England.

That Mark is obviously mocking the lives lost on the vessel and should be ashamed. More than likely a champagne socialist who has never done a thing to help others in his life.

World famous author, graduate of the University of Alabama, wrote a book chosen by those lefties! at The Spectator as their Book of the Year in 1993. Possibly a Democrat but political affiliation unknown as are his charitable activities. Unlikely to be clueless or mocking - seems quite a thoughtful chap with an awareness of numerous ingrained societal issues in Alabama/The South.

[Ant]

He's obviously clueless then. Refugees in the channel are being rescued and are being so by the Red Cross and the Navy and are brought to England.

That Mark is obviously mocking the lives lost on the vessel and should be ashamed. More than likely a champagne socialist who has never done a thing to help others in his life.

World famous author, graduate of the University of Alabama, wrote a book chosen by those lefties! at The Spectator as their Book of the Year in 1993. Possibly a Democrat but political affiliation unknown as are his charitable activities. Unlikely to be clueless or mocking - seems quite a thoughtful chap with an awareness of numerous ingrained societal issues in Alabama/The South.

He should know better then, shouldn't he, than to spread misinformation and to mock the lives of those lost on that vessel.

[DefTrap]

Pretty much how it is yes. If Labour wins, then everyone gets on with it as we've always done.

Now you know that's not how it works. Otherwise there would be no need for opposition parties, PMQs, QT or anything like that.
Or - guess what? - a fecking EU referendum in the first place.

[Ant]

Pretty much how it is yes. If Labour wins, then everyone gets on with it as we've always done.

Now you know that's not how it works. Otherwise there would be no need for opposition parties, PMQs, QT or anything like that.
Or - guess what? - a fecking EU referendum in the first place.

It's exactly how it works.

No I didn't get my own way protests. Just the regular democratic debates, such as opposition parties and PMQs.......

....rather than the far left, smashing the place up, pulling down statues, throwing paint in art galleries and raging at people in the streets.

[DefTrap]

It's exactly how it works.

No I didn't get my own way protests. Just the regular democratic debates, such as opposition parties and PMQs.......

....rather than the far left, smashing the place up, pulling down statues, throwing paint in art galleries and raging at people in the streets.

Just for parity, so you can't boo-hoo yourself to sleep with an erection about angry-lefties - You're oblivious to UK Anti-Immigration March violence and the Trump Storming of the Capitol stuff as well then?
And you're splitting hairs. We don't have to accept the status quo - we can debate it in a democratic way or take to the streets in either a peaceful or threatening way. Either way, the debate doesn't stop when the vote has been counted.

[Ant]

It's exactly how it works.

No I didn't get my own way protests. Just the regular democratic debates, such as opposition parties and PMQs.......

....rather than the far left, smashing the place up, pulling down statues, throwing paint in art galleries and raging at people in the streets.

Just for parity, so you can't boo-hoo yourself to sleep with an erection about angry-lefties - You're oblivious to UK Anti-Immigration March violence and the Trump Storming of the Capitol stuff as well then?
And you're splitting hairs. We don't have to accept the status quo - we can debate it in a democratic way or take to the streets in either a peaceful or threatening way. Either way, the debate doesn't stop when the vote has been counted.

The march where the left started the violence?

The storming of the Capitol was NOT in the UK. But for reference, wasn't the window broken from the INSIDE?

I'm splitting hairs, yet you start talking about the USA? Yeah alright....

You're quite right though, we don't have to accept the status quo, we can debate in a democratic way, by standing for MP, asking questions in PMQs, but not by smashing the place up, pulling statues down where no one actually knows what they're doing, or throwing paint at art, or sending death threats the JK Rowling. There's always a way of making people listen, or making them walk away and I suspect you're somewhere in between.

[Yambo]

Every single problem with Brexit can be sourced back to Remainers. Every single one.

Eff off - you can't force something on me and then complain because (a) I don't vocally back your very sage and wise decision making (b) the people you voted in to make it happen, totally fecked it up.

History used to be written by the victors as first hand evidence could be killed / lost / changed. These days we have actual proof of what was-reported / was-said / was-written-in-foot-high-letters-on-a-campaign-bus.

The only reason 'remainers' "won't stop going on about it" is that some of you brexiters are such fecking fibbers.

Lol! English isn't your first language, is it.

[DefTrap]

There's always a way of making people listen, or making them walk away and I suspect you're somewhere in between.

I suspect you're conflating "everything you don't like" with "the left" and I know know you're finding masses of convenient excuses for everything else that could be attributed to violent right wing protest.

But like I said, these days we can just look at first hand evidence, unless the bogeymen in charge of the media prevent us anyway.

[DefTrap]

Lol! English isn't your first language, is it.

And you've mislaid your specs.!

[Ant]

There's always a way of making people listen, or making them walk away and I suspect you're somewhere in between.

I suspect you're conflating "everything you don't like" with "the left" and I know know you're finding masses of convenient excuses for everything else that could be attributed to violent right wing protest.

But like I said, these days we can just look at first hand evidence, unless the bogeymen in charge of the media prevent us anyway.

No more than you conflate everything you don't like with 'brexit'.

But then, who, apart from the left does like smashing the place up, throwing paint over art and pulling down statues, shown by first hand evidence and even in the media.

[Count Steer]

BTW there aren't any Tories anymore (no idea why people still use that term). Tories left the party in the 19th century.

Have you looked at the dictionary definition of 'Tory'? It's moved on a bit since James II and/or the American Revolution.

1. A Conservative (Brit politics)
2. A bigoted or extreme Conservative
3. Stuff to do with James II
4. Stuff to do with Irish robbers who preyed on English settlers in the 17c
5. Stuff to do with the American Revolution

(Origin toiridhe a pursuer, robber, first applied to the Tories in Ireland etc etc).

If you have a problem with 1 & 2 or the origin of the word, take it up with Chambers. You can wave your Whig at them.

[MyLittleStudPony]

BTW there aren't any Tories anymore (no idea why people still use that term). Tories left the party in the 19th century.

Have you looked at the dictionary definition of 'Tory'? It's moved on a bit since James II and/or the American Revolution.

1. A Conservative (Brit politics)
2. A bigoted or extreme Conservative
3. Stuff to do with James II
4. Stuff to do with Irish robbers who preyed on English settlers in the 17c
5. Stuff to do with the American Revolution

(Origin toiridhe a pursuer, robber, first applied to the Tories in Ireland etc etc).

If you have a problem with 1 & 2 or the origin of the word, take it up with Chambers. You can wave your Whig at them.

Remember his wisdom on apostrophe's(!).

[Yambo]

Lol! English isn't your first language, is it.

And you've mislaid your specs.!

Mmmm, a full stop and an exclamation mark!

I think I can rest my case.

[Screwdriver]

[ZRX61]

USN have said they heard what sounded like a sub going *pop* at the same time the surface ship lost contact with it...

[KungFooBob]

I read that the sub was made mostly from titanium and carbon fibre, Dazzler probably made it in his previous employ, it's all his fault, the millionaire murdering bastard!

[Noggin]

USN have said they heard what sounded like a sub going *pop* at the same time the surface ship lost contact with it...

How on earth do they know that? Were they listening for it when it went down? Have they got recordings of everything and have gone back through it all??