K1300s

[The Spin Doctor]

The only twisting force applied to bars is on the throttle. It's a push/pull motion that's used for steering, so the Archimedes principle applies - 'Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.'

The torque is applied by rotating the bars around the steering stem.

[The Spin Doctor]

Interesting viewpoint and I suppose not intuitively wrong.

Maybe don't use that spanner on your bleed nipples though.

Let's use an example that I have done, often: spark plugs.

Put them in finger tight (i.e. by hand only), then nip up slightly tighter using, because more tighteny force is needed, a spanner with an 'arm'.

However, were I to be tightening up big bolts on a traction engine, then I might use something like that pictured.


I've often thought that a necessary skill for a great mechanic is an intuitive feel for how much grunt any given item can take.

It's why spanners that fit smaller nuts / bolts are shorter!

[Horse]

Unless you need to put a piece of scaffolding tube on

[Mr. Dazzle]

It's why spanners that fit smaller nuts / bolts are shorter!

On more than one occasion we've modified work stations to have cut-down spanners to prevent gorilla armed fitters doing damage. Few professionals live up to their name so well

K1300R is one of the bikes I'd love to own BTW. Gloriously fugly.

[Mr Moofo]

It's why spanners that fit smaller nuts / bolts are shorter!

On more than one occasion we've modified work stations to have cut-down spanners to prevent gorilla armed fitters doing damage. Few professionals live up to their name so well

K1300R is one of the bikes I'd love to own BTW. Gloriously fugly.

I am getting real hankering for a K1300s

[Bigyin]

I absolutely get that for a lot of folk, Advs are exactly what they want and need. I mean, they wouldn't sell in the numbers they do if they weren't appealing to a wide (and presumably very satisfied) audience. I really like the fact that they tend to have longer than 'normal' travel suspension, as that improves the comfort factor, and if you do want to do a bit of not-too-serious offroading that just adds to the appeal. But their undoubted success means that they now almost exclusively occupy the market sector formerly held by sports tourers and have effectively squeezed out the 'traditional' sports tourer.

But market forces determine what bikes manufacturers make, and Advs are undoubtedly flavour of the moment. The only bike that I can think of that covers the sporty tourer niche, while still being light and with good performance is the MV Agusta Turismo Veloce. I think that when s/h prices have subsided a bit I may well go for one of those.

For me I had ZX6 and 636 for years and after a couple of knee ops I struggled on a little sports bike for comfort and mobility plus I was riding like a twat on local roads I knew we’ll and was either going to get nicked at high speeds or fuck it up and make a big hole in a hedge so I binned the sports bikes and got a GS1150 to slow me down and give me some comfort. On the local shitty roads here it soaked up everything and I could hustle it fairly well in the company of local mates on sports bikes but once the road was straight bye bye

That worked for a while but then I missed the sports bike speed and acceleration but knew I wouldn’t have the comfort so looked around the ADV type market trying the GS 1200, triumph 1200 and BMW S1000XR which almost ticked all the boxes till I tried a Multistrada. Every box ticked and since I have had it and a second one it’s ticked boxes I didn’t know need ticking like taking it off road

The Ducati is 212 kg with 150 bhp from the 1200 engine, the MV is only 6 kg lighter from an 800 giving 110 bhp …… hardly a huge weight saving on a smaller bike I would have thought

[mangocrazy]

The Ducati is 212 kg with 150 bhp from the 1200 engine, the MV is only 6 kg lighter from an 800 giving 110 bhp …… hardly a huge weight saving on a smaller bike I would have thought

Wow - I never realised the 1200 Mutley was so light!. As far as I can tell from t'interwebs the two bikes are essentially the same weight, but the Ducati has an extra 40 bhp up its sleeve. Absolutely no contest. That completely resets my view of the Multi vs, the MV. There's only 20mm difference in seat height as well...

[Bigyin]

Wow - I never realised the 1200 Mutley was so light!. As far as I can tell from t'interwebs the two bikes are essentially the same weight, but the Ducati has an extra 40 bhp up its sleeve. Absolutely no contest. That completely resets my view of the Multi vs, the MV. There's only 20mm difference in seat height as well...

The newer ones have an extra 50 bhp

[mangocrazy]

Wow - I never realised the 1200 Mutley was so light!. As far as I can tell from t'interwebs the two bikes are essentially the same weight, but the Ducati has an extra 40 bhp up its sleeve. Absolutely no contest. That completely resets my view of the Multi vs, the MV. There's only 20mm difference in seat height as well...

The newer ones have an extra 50 bhp

Quoted bhp for the V4 Mutley is 170 bhp. Which is a lot, but not 50 bhp more than 150bhp...

[Bigyin]

The newer ones have an extra 50 bhp

Quoted bhp for the V4 Mutley is 170 bhp. Which is a lot, but not 50 bhp more than 150bhp...

I meant an extra 50 over the 110 MV ….. the 2015 onwards Multi were 160 bhp, the V4 has 170 bhp

My one is a sluggish 150 bhp