In todays news...

[Greenman]

[Greenman]

I think you have just lived your life being happy going along with the normal, which is fair enough, but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!

But he hasn't failed. He lives in a big arse house in the sun, where he wants how he wants. He wasn't rich, he was a working class bloke from Bradford.

He did break out of 'it' as have many of us.

Which kind of makes a mockery of your thoughts doesn't it?

Just smile and do what you want.

Easy thing to say when your able to do what you want!

[Greenman]

The exact part I quoted. Where said he couldn't break out of normal because he's not rich.

If you think that is what i said then that post has gone straight over your head!

Clarify it then what did you actually mean?

I meant that Yorick has obvs lived a good life and is now in a place he is happy and has possibly also been happy living the life of a having a good mrs and kids dog house etc.

Whilst i would also like that world i don't seem to be able to find it so i have concentrated my mind on making other peoples lives better by overseeing what is going on in the world and helping them make sure they don't get fucked over, rather than choosing to fuck them over by being bitter and greedy.

Why do you think i DJ and produce?

I know that sounds a bit like i am trying to say i some sort of prophet etc but, well, maybe so...

[Count Steer]

If you think that is what i said then that post has gone straight over your head!

Clarify it then what did you actually mean?

Whilst i would also like that world i don't seem to be able to find it so i have concentrated my mind on making other peoples lives better by overseeing what is going on in the world and helping them make sure they don't get fucked over, rather than choosing to fuck them over by being bitter and greedy.

I know that sounds a bit like i am trying to say i some sort of prophet etc but, well, maybe so...

So, you can't do it for yourself, but you're ideally placed to help others do it, as you oversee the world? A world in which Diana Spencer was an assassinated, liberal, political activist on a par with JFK? Once we, the unenlightened masses, all understand that sort of thing we'll rise up and overthrow the established world order, the industrial-military complex, big business etc by knocking out some bangin' tunes and becoming free-range 'herbalists'.

You're going to have to run a few things past me quite slowly before I quite get the hang of this 60s revival.

[Mr. Dazzle]

You do know JFK came from a rich elite family of politicians right Greenie?

His older brother was groomed with a view to being president, but he was killed in an mysterious accidental explosion flying a drone aircraft packed with explosives.

Honestly, I'm surprised that fact hasn't been picked up more by the JFK nutters. It sounds so far fetched I had to go check I hadn't imagined it!

Multiple Kennedys have been killed before their time. Its fertile ground for sure.

[KungFooBob]

Who's got JFK's brain, I bet it's Big Pharma?

God damn brain stealing DJ's.

[Bigjawa]

You do know JFK came from a rich elite family of politicians right Greenie?

His older brother was groomed with a view to being president, but he was killed in an mysterious accidental explosion flying a drone aircraft packed with explosives.

Honestly, I'm surprised that fact hasn't been picked up more by the JFK nutters. It sounds so far fetched I had to go check I hadn't imagined it!

Multiple Kennedys have been killed before their time. Its fertile ground for sure.

A four piston engined bomber, that's a bit worn out, filled with several thousand gallons of high octane fuel and a few tons of high explosives, then fitted with a very crude radio control system, I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

[Mr. Dazzle]

It's almost like they wanted him to get blown up!

[Mr. Dazzle]

How cam people NOT be alarmed that the FBI, DNC, CIA & the Clinton campaign committed proven election interference? Oh that's right.. the media haven't told them there's anything to be alarmed about. We even had one Clinton campaign lawyer still insisting there WAS collusion after the report came out, but he only appeared on CNN.

Just one this...

I had no idea this report was coming, the posts here where the first I've heard of it. I've been and looked at loads of news sites now, off the top of my head Fox, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Sky, Reuters and Al Jazeera*. I even tried reading some of the report itself, but it's pretty hard going.

The best I can summon so far is "errr...OK?" I dunno maybe it's not as revelatory as some would like.

*BTW, Al Jazeera in my mind are indelibly linked with Al Qaeda! This is only because they first came to my attention because they were the first to receive OBL's videos in the wake of 9/11. I feel they're pretty independent or at least US party agnostic? I dunno - looking at their headlines they seem fairly global and bad news oriented.

[KungFooBob]

How cam people NOT be alarmed that the FBI, DNC, CIA & the Clinton campaign committed proven election interference? Oh that's right.. the media haven't told them there's anything to be alarmed about. We even had one Clinton campaign lawyer still insisting there WAS collusion after the report came out, but he only appeared on CNN.

Just one this...

I had no idea this report was coming, the posts here where the first I've heard of it. I've been and looked at loads of news sites now, off the top of my head Fox, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Sky, Reuters and Al Jazeera*. I even tried reading some of the report itself, but it's pretty hard going.

The best I can summon so far is "errr...OK?" I dunno maybe it's not as revelatory as some would like.

*BTW, Al Jazeera in my mind are indelibly linked with Al Qaeda! This is only because they first came to my attention because they were the first to receive OBL's videos in the wake of 9/11. I feel they're pretty independent? I dunno - looking at their headlines they seem fairly global and bad news oriented.

What about RT?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Newsround didn't cover it

[Greenman]

Who's got JFK's brain, I bet it's Big Pharma?

God damn brain stealing DJ's.

Who won Eurovision?

[Yorick]

But he hasn't failed. He lives in a big arse house in the sun, where he wants how he wants. He wasn't rich, he was a working class bloke from Bradford.

He did break out of 'it' as have many of us.

Which kind of makes a mockery of your thoughts doesn't it?

Just smile and do what you want.

Easy thing to say when your able to do what you want!

We all can. We are not controlled.

[Screwdriver]

For balance like

That weak USA has given tens of billions in military aid and, in partnership with the Europe who wouldn't do anything, has supplied enough high tech lethal equipment to perhaps given Ukraine the win. Not to mention the UK military personnel who definitely aren't in Ukraine

Meanwhile "economic sanctions" have well...just ask BP. Not sure if that second point is a "for" or "against" though Ditto on the military aid, all that high tech boom-boom comes from American companies.

Can I have next week's lottery numbers? I should win a tenner at least!

Yes I was dead wrong about that. Can't win 'em all.

My post was less about the accuracy of my stated opinion and more about being frustrated at the "conspiracy theory" nonsense and the constant locking of the thread because I would rect to the ignorant personal insults that went along with such "heresy".

I would suggest the US military-industrial complex is merely a method for taking tax dollars out of the economy and giving it to global corporations. Sort of ties in with who and how decisions are being made, i.e. not by a puppet president but a backroom cabal of private interests whose primary "objective" is personal financial gain.

Giant swathes of that cash injection are simply missing. There is no telling where all the money has gone despite demands from the Senate to account for it. Even that should be of little concern other than the inevitable global depression which now looms as the US plunges ever deeper into gigantic debt. $30,000,000,000,000 or thirty trillion and rising. The interest on that debt alone is an eye watering eight trillion dollars annually. What America needs right now is to remind the world that while it might to all intents and purposes be economically bankrupt, it is still by far the most well armed nation on this planet and can largely do whatever the fuck it wants.

Of more concern currently as we teeter on the edge of a world war is what does "victory" look like? Is there actually a plan beyond maintaining this conflict without any possibility of a peaceful negotiated settlement? Even going to the extent of destroying Nord Stream 2 to stop that being used as leverage (and to sell US energy reserves into Europe). It seems to me that the US which, let's be honest, is all that is keeping this conflict going, does not have any clear plan for peace.

All that is happening is wealth transfer on a massive level, using one of the most corrupt nations on Eatrh and no I am not giving that accolade to the US or even to Russia; we all know that title actually belongs to Ukraine!

You can have my Premium Bond numbers, they have as much chance of "winning" as Ukraine.

[KungFooBob]

Who's got JFK's brain, I bet it's Big Pharma?

God damn brain stealing DJ's.

Who won Eurovision?

'The Man', it kept the proles minds off how oppressed they are?

[MrLongbeard]

Newsround didn't cover it

It all went to pot when John Craven packed it in.
Julie Etchingham's dad, James, used to be my high school head master.

[Greenman]

Who's got JFK's brain, I bet it's Big Pharma?

God damn brain stealing DJ's.

Who won Eurovision?

'The Man', it kept the proles minds off how oppressed they are?

Not sure about that.. people who are oppressed have more sense than to watch such tripe!

[weeksy]

constant locking of the thread

In 3 years we've locked 5 threads. Don't be giving me this bollox. I don't know of any other bloody internet forum that allows freedom of speech as much as this.

I fought hard not to ban DEADPOOL as I felt it was the right thing to do. But to then go on about it time and time again is irritating

Go set up your own forum and run it how you like. Enjoy.

[Yorick]

Who won Eurovision?

'The Man', it kept the proles minds off how oppressed they are?

Not sure about that.. people who are oppressed have more sense than to watch such tripe!

I like you, but tell me one person who is actually oppressed.

[Felix]

constant locking of the thread

In 3 years we've locked 5 threads. Don't be giving me this bollox.

Think i just counted 10 in the politic section