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[cheb]

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

To the barricades, I've ordered them via Amazon prime so they should be here tomorrow

[Greenman]

The issue I have with all this constant barrage of 'wake up sheeples' stuff is all the protagonists seem to want to do is bludgeon everyone into agreement with them. What do they actually want me to do apart from agree? Storm Parliament wearing a squirrel for a hat? Go and multi-post the same on other non-political forums? Be miserable and paranoid? Nope, nope, a thousand times nope.

I'm hardly oblivious to what's going on in the world. But, unless you have a fix that is within my scope, that doesn't involve bolleaux like 'Biden's laptop' or supporting Trump I don't much care even if you tell me ad nauseum that the world is going to hell in an oligarch's handbasket.

It's a case of getting the majority to see what is going on and then forming together to make a change.

It's not that complicated. It's probably how capiltalism was formed originally, it's just it has been corrupted so much it isn't really capitalism anymore!

Lets make capitalism good again <-----no i'm not a Trump supporter...

The people who are fucking everything up for us are trying to create smaller and smaller factions of people so they have more control, this is the way it has been for a long time now and it only gets worse.

They do not want people to come together, as we are strong in numbers and could form to make a change that would benefit the country which would take away and break down the barriers of corruption that have stood for so long.

Martin Luther King, JFK, Diana, Bob Marley even 2pac and Biggie we're all getting very politically minded and were starting to have a real following which could of challenged the capitalist t model, it's no co-incidence that all of those people died in a suspicious way with no hard evidence on who killed them, as soon as an individual gets to a position of power that does not suit the narrative of the capitalist regime they kill them off, or so it seems to me!

So my resolve to this issue is not to make massive changes to anything, but to remove those that have corrupted it over the years.

[KungFooBob]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

[Greenman]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

Who do you think killed them?

[cheb]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

For me to believe that I'd want firm corroborating evidence. like Nostradamus predicting it, or the Brahan Seer for Scottish matters.

[DefTrap]

I'm hardly oblivious to what's going on in the world. But, unless you have a fix that is within my scope, that doesn't involve bolleaux like 'Biden's laptop' or supporting Trump I don't much care even if you tell me ad nauseum that the world is going to hell in an oligarch's handbasket.

If it smells like shit, it's probably shit. The total "what-if?" nonsense seemed to accelerate in the post-911 - because somehow the combination of motivated forriners, lazy airport security and a bit of blind luck wasn't believable enough - sufficient folk gave credence to the analysis of have-a-go experts that we've been forced to endure similar poor analysis ever since.

And if you're going to have a champion for "truth" choose someone more plausible than Trump as your poster boy FFS. Was Ronald McDonald unavailable?

[Greenman]

I have enjoyed the journey.

We've gone from the mob accusing Screwdriver of being a nutter, to a request for him to stop pointing out that they were wrong so much because they can't do anything about it

Comical innit!

[Screwdriver]

My thoughts exactly.

[Screwdriver]

The mob is fickle. He who controls the mob, controls Rome.

[Count Steer]

I have enjoyed the journey.

We've gone from the mob accusing Screwdriver of being a nutter, to a request for him to stop pointing out that they were wrong so much because they can't do anything about it

Who said he was wrong?

[Horse]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

Who do you think killed them?

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?

[Screwdriver]

I have enjoyed the journey.

We've gone from the mob accusing Screwdriver of being a nutter, to a request for him to stop pointing out that they were wrong so much because they can't do anything about it

Who said he was wrong?

Would you like me to prepare a list? Let's start at the top:

Why are you engaging in a discussion on a forum then fella ? You can't just throw random thoughts out and not expect someone to comment... Otherwise it's just a bulletin board then not a discussion forum.

I think Russia are just about to invade Ukraine and I also think the timing is coincident with a weak USA. Likewise Taiwan.

Even if you want to insist those are the random thoughts of a suspected madman, I would still prefer to be answered or put right rather than lobotomised just so that I can "fit in".

Comment: April '21.
Russia invades Feb '22.

<edit> In fairness to Weeksy who has been incredibly tolerant, he was objecting to how I defend myself against the incessant attacks rather than denouncing the merit in what I was suggesting. Thread still kept getting locked though.

[DefTrap]

Lolz - what else have you got then Nostradamus?. "Predicting" a war that has been bubbling for generations is a biggie. Personally I wouldn't have started there when it comes to insightful revelations.

I might get some popcorn in.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

Who do you think killed them?

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?

If the car had been doing the 50kmh speed limit no one would have died, they were killed by their own stupidity.

[Screwdriver]

Normally I don't bother replying to people on ignore but since this thread has strayed into the territory for WHY their comments are of no interest to me... History doesn't lie (until ChatGPT gets its hands on it).

No offence, but this is childish. The US has a new president, get over it.

Russia thinks it can start invading countries because yay the great military mastermind Trump is out the way? Yeah I've been so worried about that too.

[Screwdriver]

Who do you think killed them?

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?

If the car had been doing the 50kmh speed limit no one would have died, they were killed by their own stupidity.

I seem to recall some theory about the driver being a bit pissed and not expecting to have to drive (through a hoard of paperhatsy).

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?

If the car had been doing the 50kmh speed limit no one would have died, they were killed by their own stupidity.

I seem to recall some theory about the driver being a bit pissed and not expecting to have to drive (through a hoard of paperhatsy).

From what I've seen that's true, he thought he'd finished for the night.

[Greenman]

So the illuminati killed Diana and 2pac?

Who do you think killed them?

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?

I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed as her political mindset did not line up with the capitalist her family needed her to be, note i used the word 'needed' not 'wanted' there!

She was a libertarian in a position of power, her family and those who control/work with them probably didn't want this.

The best one is JFK, another man championing the people and look how suspicious his death was. Can you honestly tell me that you think no-one really knows how he was killed and who done it? You/i/we don't know as they don't want us to know.

I apply this logic to quite a lot of this sort of thing. If it sounds too strange to be true it is probably false or being covered up.

Marley obviously and quite innocently died of his own ignorance due to not wanting treatment for his gangrene, but a while before that, just when he was getting to be at the peak of his libertarain ways someone tried to assassinate him, IMO, the JA Government. The man had only just recently brought the PNP and JLP together on stage at a show in JA and it set precedence to what can be achieved if like minded people form together for the betterment of everyone. These were the two biggest gangs in JA that had been fighting for decades and he brought them together through his passion for unity, imagine he done that with political parties or even formed his own, the current corruption that is held by the then leading parties would have been brought down and all the people creaming off the corruption would of been fucked, they didn't let that happen, or they done their best to try and not let it happen.

[DefTrap]

Normally I don't bother replying to people on ignore but since this thread has strayed into the territory for WHY their comments are of no interest to me... History doesn't lie (until ChatGPT gets its hands on it).

No offence, but this is childish. The US has a new president, get over it.

Russia thinks it can start invading countries because yay the great military mastermind Trump is out the way? Yeah I've been so worried about that too.

Bless your heart for remembering me. And here's me thinking you were childishly ignoring me because you were so constantly wrong about the testing of the COVID vaccines. Maybe you'd like to give us an update on that one?

America is now run by a shady backroom cabal of big tech, global corporations and (one assumes) the Obama/Clinton shadow cabinet. All they are interested in is helping themselves to truck loads of money and imposing their fantasy version of social morality. There is no world order any more. America is weak.

For anyone still wondering why the US so called election matters to us here, this is why...

Nice of you to be so selective in your quotings (so much for the 'truth' eh) regarding the Russian invasion. That's all you got? Me telling you to wind it in with the tongue up Trump's arse all the time and your hysterical bleatings about fudged voting and Clinton.

And whilst we're on the subject of predictions, this one amused me. For full disclosure, we should also point out the misses, right?

I'll be surprised if JB lasts six months. Since his departure has always been inevitable, no doubt the powers that be have a plan in place.

[Horse]

Who do you think killed them?

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed

How was she 'killed'?

And, FWIW, I've seen well-planned and set up vehicle crash tests go wrong. Trying to force a vehicle to crash can't be any easier!

Yet it's preferable for you to really on your belief.

For balance:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 48362.html

https://knottlab.com/cases/princess-diana-car-crash/



https://expertwitness.trl.co.uk/princess-diana-revisit/


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... nTBnVcxTfG