2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Right. I put new pads in the MT, the pistons are a bit minging,
The brakes work fine but squeal a little when light breaking.
I’ve got 2 options
1. Strip the callipers my self and clean, fit new everything
2. Send them off to this company and they strip clean and re build. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263277525677 ... media=COPY
Now it going to work out almost the same cost but obvs option 1 is more involved, how hard it it to split a calliper and rebuild?
Also option 1 the rebuild kit comes with stainless steel pistons so I am guessing they will be better than OEM?
Cheers
The brakes work fine but squeal a little when light breaking.
I’ve got 2 options
1. Strip the callipers my self and clean, fit new everything
2. Send them off to this company and they strip clean and re build. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263277525677 ... media=COPY
Now it going to work out almost the same cost but obvs option 1 is more involved, how hard it it to split a calliper and rebuild?
Also option 1 the rebuild kit comes with stainless steel pistons so I am guessing they will be better than OEM?
Cheers
CBR650r
- DefTrap
- Posts: 4515
- Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
- Has thanked: 2276 times
- Been thanked: 2200 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
It's a "how much is your time worth" issue.
It's not hard to do
It's not hard to do
- Skub
- Posts: 12239
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
- Location: Norn Iron
- Has thanked: 9912 times
- Been thanked: 10216 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Wot e sed.
You'll have to bleed the system yourself anyway,so essentially it's servicing a caliper you are paying for.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
- wull
- Posts: 3070
- Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
- Location: Alloa
- Has thanked: 884 times
- Been thanked: 1555 times
- Count Steer
- Posts: 11887
- Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
- Has thanked: 6416 times
- Been thanked: 4798 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
My 2d. You're a top chef, why would you want to be a mechanic too? Let somebody else do it. Would you want a mechanic doing your patisserie?
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
- Screwdriver
- Posts: 2254
- Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
- Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
- Has thanked: 267 times
- Been thanked: 769 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
You have 3 options.
1. Do it yourself
2. send them off
3. Both!
You could buy a cheap set of calipers in good-ish nick. Send them off for service You can still ride the bike. Then when you get the newly refurbished ones swap them over and (assuming they're better!) either sell yours or refurbish them yourself and then sell them as "refurbished".
If you were extra sneaky, you could include a snapshot of the rebuild invoice, say they were professionally refurbished, don't mention the "professional" was a head chef...
Either way you avoid the days/weeks without a bike and if the numbers work out, recoup some of the cost of the rebuild(s) from someone who also wants to swap out their brakes without losing time. Plus of course, you get to play at being a mechanic/chef.
1. Do it yourself
2. send them off
3. Both!
You could buy a cheap set of calipers in good-ish nick. Send them off for service You can still ride the bike. Then when you get the newly refurbished ones swap them over and (assuming they're better!) either sell yours or refurbish them yourself and then sell them as "refurbished".
If you were extra sneaky, you could include a snapshot of the rebuild invoice, say they were professionally refurbished, don't mention the "professional" was a head chef...
Either way you avoid the days/weeks without a bike and if the numbers work out, recoup some of the cost of the rebuild(s) from someone who also wants to swap out their brakes without losing time. Plus of course, you get to play at being a mechanic/chef.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Plato
- DefTrap
- Posts: 4515
- Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
- Has thanked: 2276 times
- Been thanked: 2200 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Of-using-the-service ...
PROS:
You don't have to do the splitting, and remove the pistons for inspection and to get at the seals (not an awful job but but you do need either the right tools of the right technique, this is the bit most people screw up or avoid doing - it's -always- worth doing).
You don't have to do the cleaning, it's a filthy job - your digits may never recover - your flan will taste of Dot4.
You don't have to source any parts.
If there is any hamfistedness, it's their problem (Putting back the seals is fiddly and there is a chance of tearing them, similarly when refitting the pistons).
It comes back lovely and refreshed.
CONS:
You still have to remove the caliper.
50 quid plus getting it there.
Waiting ...
Most likely you don't even need new pistons, let alone new seals.
You still have to refit the caliper.
You still have to prime, bleed (this is the second most likely part to get screwed up, where tools or technique is key)
PROS:
You don't have to do the splitting, and remove the pistons for inspection and to get at the seals (not an awful job but but you do need either the right tools of the right technique, this is the bit most people screw up or avoid doing - it's -always- worth doing).
You don't have to do the cleaning, it's a filthy job - your digits may never recover - your flan will taste of Dot4.
You don't have to source any parts.
If there is any hamfistedness, it's their problem (Putting back the seals is fiddly and there is a chance of tearing them, similarly when refitting the pistons).
It comes back lovely and refreshed.
CONS:
You still have to remove the caliper.
50 quid plus getting it there.
Waiting ...
Most likely you don't even need new pistons, let alone new seals.
You still have to refit the caliper.
You still have to prime, bleed (this is the second most likely part to get screwed up, where tools or technique is key)
- ChrisW
- Posts: 2745
- Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:46 pm
- Has thanked: 2950 times
- Been thanked: 2078 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Here's the relevant page from the workshop manual in case it helps in deciding.
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
cool
sweet
I like that ideaCount Steer wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 3:42 pm My 2d. You're a top chef, why would you want to be a mechanic too? Let somebody else do it. Would you want a mechanic doing your patisserie?
decent ideaScrewdriver wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 5:11 pm You have 3 options.
1. Do it yourself
2. send them off
3. Both!
You could buy a cheap set of calipers in good-ish nick. Send them off for service You can still ride the bike. Then when you get the newly refurbished ones swap them over and (assuming they're better!) either sell yours or refurbish them yourself and then sell them as "refurbished".
If you were extra sneaky, you could include a snapshot of the rebuild invoice, say they were professionally refurbished, don't mention the "professional" was a head chef...
Either way you avoid the days/weeks without a bike and if the numbers work out, recoup some of the cost of the rebuild(s) from someone who also wants to swap out their brakes without losing time. Plus of course, you get to play at being a mechanic/chef.
your making lots of senseDefTrap wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 5:57 pm Of-using-the-service ...
PROS:
You don't have to do the splitting, and remove the pistons for inspection and to get at the seals (not an awful job but but you do need either the right tools of the right technique, this is the bit most people screw up or avoid doing - it's -always- worth doing).
You don't have to do the cleaning, it's a filthy job - your digits may never recover - your flan will taste of Dot4.
You don't have to source any parts.
If there is any hamfistedness, it's their problem (Putting back the seals is fiddly and there is a chance of tearing them, similarly when refitting the pistons).
It comes back lovely and refreshed.
CONS:
You still have to remove the caliper.
50 quid plus getting it there.
Waiting ...
Most likely you don't even need new pistons, let alone new seals.
You still have to refit the caliper.
You still have to prime, bleed (this is the second most likely part to get screwed up, where tools or technique is key)
CBR650r
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
- KungFooBob
- Posts: 14314
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
- Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
- Has thanked: 542 times
- Been thanked: 7599 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
The squeal is the back of the pads vibrating against the pistons.
Usually stopped by applying a bit of copper slip. You did apply some when you changed the pads?
Cheaper than a calliper rebuild.
Usually stopped by applying a bit of copper slip. You did apply some when you changed the pads?
Cheaper than a calliper rebuild.
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
I did not apply any. but I have just ordered some,KungFooBob wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 7:53 pm The squeal is the back of the pads vibrating against the pistons.
Usually stopped by applying a bit of copper slip. You did apply some when you changed the pads?
Cheaper than a calliper rebuild.
reason I want them done is the pitons were a bugger to move and they look pitted/rusty/shite
CBR650r
- wull
- Posts: 3070
- Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
- Location: Alloa
- Has thanked: 884 times
- Been thanked: 1555 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
There usually is anti squeal plates and or anti rattle springs to stop the above, they are designed to stop the lad from rattling about.
- KungFooBob
- Posts: 14314
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
- Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
- Has thanked: 542 times
- Been thanked: 7599 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
You could do a half arsed clean.
1. Callipers off the mounts and the pads out.
2. Put a spanner in the slot where the disc goes. Pump the pistons out (the spanner should stop them 'popping' out).
3. Give what you can see a good clean with what ever you've got, maybe rub them with a bit of high number wet and dry.
4. Push the now clean pistons back in, then reassemble (with copper slip).
1. Callipers off the mounts and the pads out.
2. Put a spanner in the slot where the disc goes. Pump the pistons out (the spanner should stop them 'popping' out).
3. Give what you can see a good clean with what ever you've got, maybe rub them with a bit of high number wet and dry.
4. Push the now clean pistons back in, then reassemble (with copper slip).
-
- Posts: 761
- Joined: Mon May 25, 2020 8:35 am
- Location: Malta
- Has thanked: 316 times
- Been thanked: 572 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Gold spot calipers have aluminium pistons. Those tend to do much better against corrosion.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145075783644 ... media=COPY
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145075783644 ... media=COPY
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
so might have a slight change of plans, just spoke to FWR ( need a new set of tyres) for £15 per caliper they will remove pistons and clean the up. seems like a bargain to me.
CBR650r
- Screwdriver
- Posts: 2254
- Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
- Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
- Has thanked: 267 times
- Been thanked: 769 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Yeahbbut how much are they charging to change tyres these days.
Shop right next door to me will do the job for you. PM for details.
Shop right next door to me will do the job for you. PM for details.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Plato
- DefTrap
- Posts: 4515
- Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
- Has thanked: 2276 times
- Been thanked: 2200 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Sounds too good to be true? I wouldn't do it for that.formula400 wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 11:45 am so might have a slight change of plans, just spoke to FWR ( need a new set of tyres) for £15 per caliper they will remove pistons and clean the up. seems like a bargain to me.
-
- Posts: 1882
- Joined: Sat May 08, 2021 5:14 pm
- Location: Another day without using algebra
- Has thanked: 65 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
As has been said, squeal is pad not caliper related.
If FWR are cleaning the pistons, that'll not be a strip, just pump out a bit and the apprentices' toothbrush on the pistons. You'll use £15 of brake fluid refilling the system!
If FWR are cleaning the pistons, that'll not be a strip, just pump out a bit and the apprentices' toothbrush on the pistons. You'll use £15 of brake fluid refilling the system!
- formula400
- Posts: 1734
- Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 444 times
- Been thanked: 864 times
Re: 2018 MT07 front calliper rebuild
Yeah noted, the squeal is only 1 issue, the main is getting them decent.
Also tyres are wedge. £385 for Michelin Road 6 fitted.
CBR650r