Not My King / God save The King

[Felix]

Who?

[Bigjawa]

Who?

Seriously, I reckon that a lot of the great love for the royals died off with her maj. Charlie comes across as a bit of an arse at times and his brats are bloody annoying.

Plus nobody is too fond of his nonce brother, if monarchy had any sense, they'd give Anne the job.

Harry is going to find out that fame in the US is a fickle thing. Wouldn't surprise me that in five years time, Meghan is long gone and he's flying the WZAZ traffic helicopter to pay the alimony.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Support for the Royals is pretty strongly correlated with age. Lots of support among the oldies, little among the young folk.

Is that because the concept is inherently old fashioned and dying off, or cause people change with age?

[Bigjawa]

Support for the Royals is pretty strongly correlated with age. Lots of support among the oldies, little among the young folk.

Is that because the concept is inherently old fashioned and dying off, or cause people change with age?

I think it's about the access that each generation had to information, I'm the very last of the pre internet generation and my exposure to the monarchy was that they couldn't really do any wrong, I can remember Charles and Di geting married and how wonderful it was, then the paedo and fergie and the whole scandal when Anne and her first husband broke up, then the whole Di and Camilla thing came out and it became apparent that they weren't quite as great as they were made out to be.

Kids nowadays have access to information that we wliterally never dreamed of, they'll be more interested Doja Cat or something.

Tourism will be there even if all the royals dropped dead tomorrow, people come to see the castles and the history, very few of them will ever see a royal in the flesh, it's like Titanic Tourism, the boat has been on the bottom for over a century, but people keep coming to see a few acres of concrete and a museum.

[Dodgy69]

I think Will and Kate will do a great job. Harry's brain moved to his nob a good while back.

[Noggin]

It's interesting over here as a few French friends asked me about watching 'the' funeral a while back and today I had my first French friend asked me if I was going back to the uk for the coronation.

They are generally surprised that I have little or no interest. But it's difficult to explain (to English friends too) that, whilst I would call myself a monarchist, the UK hasn't felt like 'home' since 2015/16. So I don't have any affinity with whats going on there.

I think Charles and then William seem like they would do things ok. But, I can't see the british public letting the royal family cost them 'so much' per person per year for much longer. Regardless that the actual cost vs the income seems to balance well or in favour of the general public, the media can get most of the uk wound up into a mad frenzy with no effort at all, so who knows?

Do I think the royal family should be sacked and dismantled? No I don't - but as I don't live over there, my view holds no water!! LOL

As for the coronation, if I can't think of anything else to do on the day, maybe I'll watch. But I'm not really that bothered!

[Yorick]

Every single person on here was born when the Queen was on the throne.
She was a nice lady. Well liked.
She was there everyday of our lives.
Like a nice grandma.

Folk just liked her. Didn't really think about the family.

It changed recently. Doubt it will be the same again.

[asmethurst99]

In a cosmic sense I find them ridiculous….I accept other people feel different….

[Skub]

Every single person on here was born when the Queen was on the throne.

@Cousin Jack may have been born before 1953.

[Yorick]

Every single person on here was born when the Queen was on the throne.

@Cousin Jack may have been born before 1953.

Tough crowd tonight

[demographic]

Not my king, Harry seems a fairly decent bloke though.


Odd that we always chunter on about them bringing in loads of money innit but totally forget that the palace at Versailles brings in shitloads without a royal family
It's bullshite.

Although theyre fucking tops for the arms industry, checkout the Royal Yacht Britannia and Prince andrew in Saudi for details. Benefit to society? Not so much.

[Jody]

I find the 'tourism' argument for keeping them very weak. People seem to think that tourists ONLY come here for the royals and if they weren't here the tourists would just stop coming. I believe that in reality "The royals" probably take about half a day out of a tourists 7 day holiday?!!

However, it's not going to change anytime soon. They hold enough power and favour that need to make sure they keep it.

[Saga Lout]

Support for the Royals is pretty strongly correlated with age. Lots of support among the oldies, little among the young folk.

Is that because the concept is inherently old fashioned and dying off, or cause people change with age?

I think my reason for supporting the monarchy is a variation of Chesterton's Fence (i.e. before you tear something down make sure you know why it was put up in the first place). My variation goes: before you tear something down be sure that you know what you're going to replace it with.

It seems that every country needs a head of state (i.e. somebody to go and visit other heads of state or show up at their funerals or weddings) so the question is: how would we choose a head of state? An election? Do you really want President Tony Blair, David Cameron, Boris Johnson etc? Or how about the leader of the governing party becomes the head of state? (See above.) And they wouldn't be content just to be a figurehead, they'd want presidential powers, wouldn't they?

No, I'm not exactly happy to have an inbred Royal as the head of state but compared with the alternatives, I think it's the least worst option.

[demographic]

Support for the Royals is pretty strongly correlated with age. Lots of support among the oldies, little among the young folk.

Is that because the concept is inherently old fashioned and dying off, or cause people change with age?

I know this isn't really a reflection of the numbers involved but I was out for a drive with my 89 year old mother today and she's no royalist. Not even close.

[Greenman]

Support for the Royals is pretty strongly correlated with age. Lots of support among the oldies, little among the young folk.

Is that because the concept is inherently old fashioned and dying off, or cause people change with age?

I know this isn't really a reflection of the numbers involved but I was out for a drive with my 89 year old mother today and she's no royalist. Not even close.

Mine are. My old dear would never miss the Queens speech on xmas day! 85yo

I think a lot has to do with social media now too....people can finally have an opinion even if they don't believe in it. I wonder how many people will have the same opinion in real life to life conversations?

" yeah but <insert fav celeb here> says they are good for the country so i really support them"!

[Ant]

I love that we have a Royal Family, it's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition. I know a few anti royals and they all have the same thing in common, bitterness, resent, issues in their own life which must be someone else's fault, so of course if they see minted, rich people like the royals, that's another hate target.

I'll enjoy watching it on the telly, must be a fantastic atmosphere to actually be down in London though seeing it in person, but I suppose you'll see more on the telly.

[Greenman]

I love that we have a Royal Family, it's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition. I know a few anti royals and they all have the same thing in common, bitterness, resent, issues in their own life which must be someone else's fault, so of course if they see minted, rich people like the royals, that's another hate target.

I'll enjoy watching it on the telly, must be a fantastic atmosphere to actually be down in London though seeing it in person, but I suppose you'll see more on the telly.

What makes the royal fam so special to you in a personal way?

[Ant]

I love that we have a Royal Family, it's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition. I know a few anti royals and they all have the same thing in common, bitterness, resent, issues in their own life which must be someone else's fault, so of course if they see minted, rich people like the royals, that's another hate target.

I'll enjoy watching it on the telly, must be a fantastic atmosphere to actually be down in London though seeing it in person, but I suppose you'll see more on the telly.

What makes the royal fam so special to you in a personal way?

It's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition which many people around the world love. We have something many countries don't any more. There's nothing quite like it, it's simply fantastic.

[Greenman]

I love that we have a Royal Family, it's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition. I know a few anti royals and they all have the same thing in common, bitterness, resent, issues in their own life which must be someone else's fault, so of course if they see minted, rich people like the royals, that's another hate target.

I'll enjoy watching it on the telly, must be a fantastic atmosphere to actually be down in London though seeing it in person, but I suppose you'll see more on the telly.

What makes the royal fam so special to you in a personal way?

It's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition which many people around the world love. We have something many countries don't any more. There's nothing quite like it, it's simply fantastic.

Such a good reply..

Thing is though they are just another tyrant. The oldest tyrant if you want to get into all the history stuff that i will pretend to know about!...

[Rockburner]

What makes the royal fam so special to you in a personal way?

It's our own great thing which brings in tourism. It's a fantastic tradition which many people around the world love. We have something many countries don't any more. There's nothing quite like it, it's simply fantastic.

Such a good reply..

Thing is though they are just another tyrant. The oldest tyrant if you want to get into all the history stuff that i will pretend to know about!...

In fairness, they're only a tyrant if they can actually cause you any damage. The British royals have been nothing but a figurehead for more than 100 years, politically all they can do is hint at the vague idea of making a suggestive comment, possibly.
If you're concerned about the effect on your wellbeing, it's the morons in the Commons who have the most effect.