Osteopaths and chiropractors?

General chat topics, anything and everything you want or need to discuss
ace llani
Posts: 81
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:36 pm
Location: Llanidloes, Powys.
Has thanked: 30 times
Been thanked: 37 times

Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by ace llani »

Had a bad back for decades, old MX injuries, and one leg 35mm shorter than the other (MX injury).

I've used osteopaths for 30 years. My original was amazing - first time he manipulated my back I thought he'd snapped me in half, but I always moved better after treatment.

Younger osteopaths seem to be far more gentle, and I don't get the movement back like I used to.
Maybe it's just that I'm older, back has changed.

But I'm thinking of looking for a chiropractor to try.

Any thoughts or experiences?
User avatar
dern
Posts: 2142
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:51 am
Has thanked: 1017 times
Been thanked: 1782 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by dern »

Neither. Find a good physiotherapist.
demographic
Posts: 3036
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:30 pm
Location: Less that 50 miles away from Moscow, but which one?
Has thanked: 1350 times
Been thanked: 1726 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by demographic »

Hit Quackwatch for info on Chiropractic snakeoil.
https://quackwatch.org/chiropractic/
Gregor
Posts: 603
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:20 am
Location: Kent
Has thanked: 1295 times
Been thanked: 872 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Gregor »

Avoid Chiropractors like the plague.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16754
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10279 times
Been thanked: 6891 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Yorick »

I had private health and a bad neck. They sent me to top local chiropractor. Had about 10 painful sessions.
Sacked it and saw a very good local physio. She asked how many pillows I used. Was 2 so she told me to try just 1.
Job sorted.
User avatar
Count Steer
Posts: 11837
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 6382 times
Been thanked: 4765 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Count Steer »

ace llani wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:02 pm

Younger osteopaths seem to be far more gentle, and I don't get the movement back like I used to.
Maybe it's just that I'm older, back has changed.
I noticed that they're a bit less physical. Apparently there's been a shift in thinking about doing too much when there's an acute inflammation, so it depends on the injury. Sometimes they'll work on a muscle group to relieve stresses on an area if those muscles aren't damaged.

You can get temporary relief if they hit an inflamed area hard because you release endorphins (I think - might be something else) but you can actually aggravate the underlying issue.

One bit of advice after treatment was to do the exercises until the condition eased, then book in for a sports massage.

I just think the thinking has evolved rather than physios/osteos have got lazy. :D
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one
.
Voltaire
Greenman
Posts: 1740
Joined: Fri May 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Has thanked: 209 times
Been thanked: 403 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Greenman »

I have used a chiro for many years after a bad fall at cricket which caused really bad sciatica.

Apart from freeing me up for a few days after the treatment i don't think they really do that much good.

I have not been able to afford to attend one now for over a year and i don't feel that much different. The only thing i notice is that my neck is a bit tighter than usual and aches, apart from that everything feels normal.

Might go for a few sessions when i get paid at the end of the month to see if i feel any benefit from it now i have had a years break, but at £44 a session it's getting a bit expensive!
ace llani
Posts: 81
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:36 pm
Location: Llanidloes, Powys.
Has thanked: 30 times
Been thanked: 37 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by ace llani »

Thanks for the input.

Everybody's back is different. Osteopath helps me, my back tightens up and the manipulation helps make it more mobile.

They are more delicate these days, thought it might be because they are more scared of getting sued.
But guess maybe they've found new techniques.

I tried a chiropractor once, after a big fall where I hurt my neck. walked in sore and nearly crawled out, so never went back.

Based on what I've heard I'm going to stick with what I know, and try the osteopath again.

Done physio, the exercises and painkillers to death with no real benefit.
User avatar
Noggin
Posts: 8037
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:46 pm
Location: Ski Resort
Has thanked: 16236 times
Been thanked: 3938 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Noggin »

I've tried all three over the years.

The uk Osteo was rubbish - I fixed the issue (caused by crashing a car) by falling off a bike at Cadwell and knocking things back into place!!

The osteo over here did seem really good, but not sure it would have made any difference long term.

The uk chiro really helped me by diagnosing a couple of old problems and fixing them - didn't need to go back

Another uk chiro actually fixed something by acupuncture, not chiro!


I think my physios here are awesome. The one I feel helps the most does some really deep tissue massage as well as movement exercises or he moves the arm in a way I can't. From this I figure that actually most of the issues I have with the arm (also muscles around the shoulder and into my neck) are due to them getting tight from the inability to move the arm properly and the compensation on the other side. So the sort of movement and massage he does helps more than most things. Oh, he also does dry needling to release some of the pressure (or trigger?) points - that's a total bastard but works well, for limited time tho as with the massage


At the end of the day - if you go and see someone to get a physical issue sorted, but don't then change how you move or do a load of exercise to build better muscles/ability, then no one can 'fix' the issue. They can only make you feel better for a few days. Sadly, no quick fixes :( :(
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!! :bblonde:
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16754
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10279 times
Been thanked: 6891 times

Re: Osteopaths and chiropractors?

Post by Yorick »

When I has my big crash in 2007, I was fucked.
But had private health thru work.
A mile from work was the place that was the Olympics team physios.

Fantastic. Expensive, but I wasn't paying :D