Public emergency alerts to be sent to all UK mobile phones

[Ant]

Do you have warnings in banks when a bank manager is trying to offer you a loan you cannot afford?

Yes, these warnings are built into those people who are able to decide for themselves how numbers work and for those who can take some self responsibility instead of blaming others.

What about for those people who seek advise from their bank manager for such loans?

What about them?

[JackyJoll]

Obviously the met people in Abu Dhabi have been trained by our Meteorological Office. If in doubt issue a warning, what colour shall we use next?

The yellow snow warning had me puzzled.

[Screwdriver]

I would suggest you don't want to be anywhere near the roads and certainly not on a bike during this overt demonstration of authoritarian power.

Never mind the political gamesmanship though. Picture the scene: driving peacefully down the motorway or bombing along a dual carriageway among all the Sunday drivers. Suddenly the phone goes nuts in every single vehicle all at the same time, including circumstances where there are multiple phones per vehicle.

There should be a lottery for how big the spike in RTA is going to be. I say at least double, possibly up to an order of magnitude higher than normal...

Should be fun but excuse me for not wishing to join in the debaclé.

While it's not difficult to believe half the people in this world are below average intelligence, it is more difficult to accept half of those in power are above it.

[wheelnut]

…,this overt example of authoritarian power.

That made me smile - it just goes to show how having a particular mindset and preconceptions can influence your take on different things.

I just view it as a fairly common sense use of technology. I am sometimes concerned about privacy (although more from the likes of Amazon et al than the government) but this particular scheme doesn’t even register on my tinfoil hat meter.

[Screwdriver]

…,this overt example of authoritarian power.

That made me smile - it just goes to show how having a particular mindset and preconceptions can influence your take on different things.

I just view it as a fairly common sense use of technology. I am sometimes concerned about privacy (although more from the likes of Amazon et al than the government) but this particular scheme doesn’t even register on my tinfoil hat meter.

I suppose it tells me something about your mindset too.

Here's mine. It's MY FUCKING PHONE! It is rarely if ever good news when the fucker goes off anyway but if the fucking government ASKED if I would like to be herded along with the other sheeple like some brain dead moron I could tell them to politely FUCK OFF and get on with running the country rather than planning for the next pandemic bonanza.

<edit> @wheelnut that's not a rant aimed at you, this whole "we'll decide what's best of you" nonsense from such assholes really boils my piss.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

CS Lewis. God in the dock.

[Mr. Dazzle]

You probably did give 'em permission TBF, right down somewhere in teh weeds of those Ts & Cs none of us read

LOL at the RTA thing though. How nervous would you have to be for a beeping phone to scare you off the road?

[Screwdriver]

LOL at the RTA thing though. How nervous would you have to be for a beeping phone to scare you off the road?

We'll find out Monday...

[Mr. Dazzle]

I've just looked at how you turn this feature off in your phone, it's a piece of piss.

I've also discovered in the process that if you tap the lock button 5 times in sucession it dials 112. Who knew phones did that?!

[Yorick]

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[Greenman]

LOL at the RTA thing though. How nervous would you have to be for a beeping phone to scare you off the road?

We'll find out Monday...

You know you can turn it off right?

https://www.gov.uk/alerts/how-alerts-wo ... e%20alerts'.

Personally, and i normally agree with most that you say, i don't see the issue.

If there were to be an incident that will affect me and could potentially be harmful to me i would be quite happy to be aware of this rather than go out and get ass raped by some nutter on meth!

We have lockdowns in schools similar. One school in a rough area of bristol (Hartcliffe) had some nutter high as fuck walking around the streets with a full size samurai sword, the school issues a lockdown 101 warming via the schools phones etc and everyone has to lock themselves in the nearest lockable room, it's quite useful. I would of just done a full Jackie Chan flying kick to his noggin if i was to out when he was about though of course, and would of then gone full chuck norris karake chop mode to get the sword out of his grasp then ordered him to go sit in the naughty corner in the heads office to think about what he has done...

[Screwdriver]

If it is not compulsory as I was led to believe, then its less of an issue.

I still would not want to be on a busy road when all the phones go off since, one assumes, the vast majority of people won't know or bother until, like everyone else** around them, they are simultaneously distracted.

Even if those who do not wish to be nannied by the government choose not to accept these "emergency alerts" there is still the problem of mission creep affecting the society within which we all have to live. As I have suggested earlier, once a system is in place (like speed cameras which were never supposed to be "averaging", parking, "terrorist" laws and even face recognition/tracking etc) then once in place and generally accepted by sufficient numbers, the opportunity to just push the boundary is overwhelming. What would a devious cunt like Sadiq Khan do with such toys?

[weeksy]

If it is not compulsory as I was led to believe, then its less of an issue.

I still would not want to be on a busy road when all the phones go off since, one assumes, the vast majority of people won't know or bother until, like everyone else** around them, they are simultaneously distracted.

Even if those who do not wish to be nannied by the government choose not to accept these "emergency alerts" there is still the problem of mission creep affecting the society within which we all have to live. As I have suggested earlier, once a system is in place (like speed cameras which were never supposed to be "averaging", parking, "terrorist" laws and even face recognition/tracking etc) then once in place and generally accepted by sufficient numbers, the opportunity to just push the boundary is overwhelming. What would a devious cunt like Sadiq Khan do with such toys?

way too tinfoil hat for me that fella.

If you don't like the idea, take your phone, throw it in the bin and just use a land-line.

[Ant]

There is a national shortage of tin foil. The bill gates micro data chips in the vaccination will communicate with your smart phone and record your reaction to the government alert system. Those who have disabled the facility will also be known to the authorities.

[Screwdriver]

way too tinfoil hat for me that fella.

If you don't like the idea, take your phone, throw it in the bin and just use a land-line.

For my benefit, could you please point out the tinfoilhattery with these three observations:

Being on the road when all vehicles are simultaneously distracted.

Mission creep with new technologies and "public safety" measures.

Sadiq Khan is a cunt.

[weeksy]

way too tinfoil hat for me that fella.

If you don't like the idea, take your phone, throw it in the bin and just use a land-line.

For my benefit, could you please point out the tinfoilhattery with these three observations:

Being on the road when all vehicles are simultaneously distracted.

Mission creep with new technologies and "public safety" measures.

Sadiq Khan is a cunt.

1. Sure
2. Missin creep hasn't happened
3. You've met him?

You're looking for conspiracy in something that's complete fiction, hasn't happened and may never happen but you've decided that's the likely outcome.

[Screwdriver]

1. well alright then...

2. I say it will and unlike the war in Ukraine and the Biden mafia, we won't need to wait so long to find out if I should wear a tinfoil hat instead of sharing my opinions here.

3. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck. He literally LIED about a sham "consultation" regarding his plan to rid London of all personal vehicles by continually extending to ULEZ until it swept past my door. He had already bought and paid for the extra tax cameras even prior to rigging the result of the "consultation". Have you ever listened to him quack?

I do not see ay conspiracy. Unlike you for example and several others on here, I do not shout "conspiracy" every time someone says something I might not agree with but have no argument against. I use reasoned debate. Sometimes I discover I was wrong (such as the ability to disable this particular alarm) in which event I learn something. Sometimes people just shout me down with idiotic insults because they are frightened by their own ignorance.

[Horse]

If it is not compulsory as I was led to believe, then its less of an issue.

So wouldn't it have made sense to check before ranting?

AAMOI, who/what led you to believe it, and what else has that source told you?

[Ant]

Sadiq Khan is a cunt.

You'll be pleased to know that he spent over £1m of tax payers money paying people off to hush hush since becoming mayor. Oh and whilst knife crime is rife, £10m of tax payers money was spent on him jetting off across America.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Sadiq Khan is a cunt.

You'll be pleased to know that he spent over £1m of tax payers money paying people off to hush hush since becoming mayor. Oh and whilst knife crime is rife, £10m of tax payers money was spent on him jetting off across America.

Meh, he's the same as any other politician, they're all thieving twats, doesn't matter what cause they claim to support, they're lining their own pockets.

[Horse]

Sadiq Khan is a cunt.

You'll be pleased to know that he spent over £1m of tax payers money paying people off to hush hush since becoming mayor. Oh and whilst knife crime is rife, £10m of tax payers money was spent on him jetting off across America.

If that sort of thing interests you, have a read up on how much politicians spend on overseas research trips, albeit much funded by foreign governments etc.

Also read up on Boris Johnson's spending when mayor. eg Allegedly £53M on the 'garden bridge', or "Three water cannon bought and refurbished for more than £320,000 while Boris Johnson was London ... were sold for £11,025 "

NB do you have a link for the £10M statement? Other sources suggest much less:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-62118834
Sadiq Khan's five-day trip to the US cost the taxpayer at least £34,263, City Hall says.

London's mayor was accompanied by eight officials with ground transport costing the most (£21,108), according to a Freedom of Information (FOI) request.

Business-class flights were provided by United Airlines, with only taxes and fees of £2,802 payable.

The mayor visited New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles during May's trip to "bang the drum for London".

City Hall's previous occupant Boris Johnson led a delegation to the US in 2015, which cost the taxpayer nearly £40,000 - including about £15,000 on flights - according to an FOI request.