Historical vehicle information?

[Bennydog42]

Hi Everyone.

I’m hoping that someone can give me some help regarding when a motorcycle becomes a historical vehicle, for road tax and mot purposes.

I have recently bought a very nice Suzuki gsx250. It was registered on 30/10/1980 so will be forty years old next month. The mot lapsed last month. The bike has done about 200 miles before the mot ended.

I was told that the bike will become historical vehicle eligible on the 30/10/20 which would mean that I didn’t have to get a new mot. I was also told that if I took a form v112 to the post office, I could tax the bike as a historical vehicle, too.

Now before someone tells me “Google is my friend” (It isn’t DuckDuckGo is) There is quite a bit of out of date information, and some misleading stuff out there. I really want to hear from someone who has recently had to deal with the same thing.

I have a old mot, and the “New Keeper” part of the registration document. What should I do next. I obviously don’t want to get a mot if I don’t have to. The same goes for road tax.

Thank you in advance for any help and advice..

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Try asking the VJMC, they might be able to help

[KungFooBob]

I'd hope that the governments info isn't out of date or misleading?

https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles

[Bennydog42]

Without making any jokes about government information, being out of date or misleading..
The gov website is quite ambiguous.

This is why I’m looking for someone that has real experience of transitioning to a historical vehicle status.

Thank you, anyway..

[Horse]

The gov website is quite ambiguous.

Which bit?

[Nidge]

I’ve done it a couple of times it’s quite simple, fill in change of taxation class on the V5, take it to a post office and they will send it to DVLA. In a few weeks you will get new V5 and shortly after any RFL refund you are due. My understanding is that the vehicle has to be over 40 years old on the 1st Jan of the year you are applying for free RFL in

[Amulree]

Yes, that's right you have to wait to the beginning of the next year. I had my 1979 Austin Allegro all ready to apply for historic status in October 2019 but in fact had to wait until 5 April 2020 before I could apply. When I did I ran into Coronavirus which slowed the whole thing up for 6 months but that's another story! Anyhow the car is now an historic vehicle!

[KungFooBob]

Yes, that's right you have to wait to the beginning of the next year. I had my 1979 Austin Allegro all ready to apply for historic status in October 2019 but in fact had to wait until 5 April 2020 before I could apply. When I did I ran into Coronavirus which slowed the whole thing up for 6 months but that's another story! Anyhow the car is now an historic vehicle!

You spelt Horrific wrong.

[maccecht]

You spelt Horrific wrong.

No he hasnt there are indeed two L's in Austin Allegro

[Bennydog42]

But what about the mot. My bike will be over forty years old on the day after 30/10/20

Please see attached. It doesn’t say forty years from the following year.

[Amulree]

As I understand it you need the V5 showing the 'Historic' tax class before you can drop the MoT. If you have the standard V5 the DVLA computer will simply do the automatic insurance and MoT check before you can re-tax the vehicle.
Oh, and Austin Allegros are much maligned, but there's only 280 left!

[Bennydog42]

This is what I meant about the government site being ambiguous..
Why can’t this information be put out clearly?

I’m going to ring the dvla tomorrow.. Just to make sure. But I won’t be surprised if they don’t know what the rules are.

Thank you everyone who has replied to my post.

I’ll let you know what finally happens..

[Bennydog42]

I found this. https://www.spannerrash.com/v112-form-mot-exemption/

Why couldn’t this information have been made clear on the government website?

Looks like I’m getting my bike mot’d tomorrow..

Once again, thank you for all the help and advice.

[David]

Yes, that's right you have to wait to the beginning of the next year. I had my 1979 Austin Allegro all ready to apply for historic status in October 2019 but in fact had to wait until 5 April 2020 before I could apply. When I did I ran into Coronavirus which slowed the whole thing up for 6 months but that's another story! Anyhow the car is now an historic vehicle!

I am surprised it was quick enough to catch up with Coronathingy.

Has it got a "Quartic" wheel?

[David]

As I understand it you need the V5 showing the 'Historic' tax class before you can drop the MoT. If you have the standard V5 the DVLA computer will simply do the automatic insurance and MoT check before you can re-tax the vehicle.
Oh, and Austin Allegros are much maligned, but there's only 280 left!

There is a reason for the last bit...
Watch how you jack it up.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

As I understand it you need the V5 showing the 'Historic' tax class before you can drop the MoT. If you have the standard V5 the DVLA computer will simply do the automatic insurance and MoT check before you can re-tax the vehicle.
Oh, and Austin Allegros are much maligned, but there's only 280 left!

In 1989 I had a 1979 Allegro 1.5L with twin SU carbs, apart from the rust and horrendous oil usage (5 litres of oil for every tankful of petrol) it was a good car, it did 115 mph, handled well (with a lot of body roll) and was comfortable, it was great fun chasing an XR3i from Hastings to the M25 in it, I couldn't pass it, but it couldn't leave me either. The fuel consumption was pretty bad from memory, about 25mpg, this may have been due to the way it was driven.

[chillitt]

As I understand it you need the V5 showing the 'Historic' tax class before you can drop the MoT. If you have the standard V5 the DVLA computer will simply do the automatic insurance and MoT check before you can re-tax the vehicle.
Oh, and Austin Allegros are much maligned, but there's only 280 left!

In 1989 I had a 1979 Allegro 1.5L with twin SU carbs, apart from the rust and horrendous oil usage (5 litres of oil for every tankful of petrol) it was a good car, it did 115 mph, handled well (with a lot of body roll) and was comfortable, it was great fun chasing an XR3i from Hastings to the M25 in it, I couldn't pass it, but it couldn't leave me either. The fuel consumption was pretty bad from memory, about 25mpg, this may have been due to the way it was driven.

A friend had one with twin carbs, it was so horrendous on fuel we got a set of single carb bits(including exhaust for some reason) It seemed faster afterwards.. Also, if you take the wheels out an MTX125 will fit on the back seat..

[Horse]

Also, if you take the wheels out an MTX125 will fit on the back seat..

You mean take the wheels off the car, use it as a shed?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

A friend had one with twin carbs, it was so horrendous on fuel we got a set of single carb bits(including exhaust for some reason) It seemed faster afterwards.. Also, if you take the wheels out an MTX125 will fit on the back seat..

Most of the exhaust fell off mine going over the Orwell Bridge
If you fold all the seats flat it makes a comfy double bed, a useful attribute in a car when you're 22.

[chillitt]

A friend had one with twin carbs, it was so horrendous on fuel we got a set of single carb bits(including exhaust for some reason) It seemed faster afterwards.. Also, if you take the wheels out an MTX125 will fit on the back seat..

Most of the exhaust fell off mine going over the Orwell Bridge
If you fold all the seats flat it makes a comfy double bed, a useful attribute in a car when you're 22.

She found out we had moved a bike with her precious car so that would not have been useful on this occasion..