Mussels wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:33 pm
If they want to stop children being brainwashed would they please exclude churches from having access to the kids as well, I've seen the damage a religious upbringing can do.
Difference being, as soon as a child can start thinking for itself, it can either object or merely ignore those teachings. I agree there is widespread religious "indoctrination" perhaps even in the UK but it's not primarily Christian...
If you convince a child what it really wants is to have its dick chopped off and spend the rest of its life on a dangerous cocktail of drugs, it's too late. It won't grow back.
When I was that age, I wanted to be an astronaut, failing that I'd settle for Barry Sheene.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
The next time we hear that the Police are under staffed and under funded, we'll have this badly thought out use of Police time to remind us that they obviously have too much time on their hands....
This mental illness is an epidemic, created by and supported by drugs and medical services (Ltd.)
According to your link
The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis
cheb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:58 pm
How many unecessary male circumcisions?
Or Female.
That wasn't really my point though. As above, my point is that Desantis is using the mechanisms of government to try and punish/influence an organisation for not supporting him. Disney don't run schools.
They've both painted themselves into corners now it would seem though.
cheb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:58 pm
How many unecessary male circumcisions?
I do not condone any acts of mutilation against children.
What I find shocking is that there are people on here who want to argue some semantic issue and simply ignore the horror that this mass psychosis is creating. It beggars belief that anyone would defend a parent for submitting their child to "gender reassignment" let alone the so called "doctors" who are happy to accept money for mutilating children.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
cheb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:58 pm
How many unecessary male circumcisions?
I do not condone any acts of mutilation against children.
What I find shocking is that there are people on here who want to argue some semantic issue and simply ignore the horror that this mass psychosis is creating. It beggars belief that anyone would defend a parent for submitting their child to "gender reassignment" let alone the so called "doctors" who are happy to accept money for mutilating children.
^^^^^This
Sweden have a much bigger problem than the UK and are struggling to come to terms with it. Mutilated children have grown up and now have no idea what they are.
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:26 pm
It beggars belief that anyone would defend a parent for submitting their child to "gender reassignment" let alone the so called "doctors" who are happy to accept money for mutilating children.
I have absolutely no idea what it's like to be either parent or child in this ^^^ situation. I do know that virtually every situation you come across as a parent for the first time is something you're not prepared for to a greater or lesser extent.
I'm not defending or attacking anyone in this situation.
For all your talk of MSM brainwashing you don't half have a one track message from the other side.
cheb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:58 pm
How many unecessary male circumcisions?
When do you identify them as being unnecessary?
When they aren’t being done for a medical reason
I'd sooner have had mine chopped off when I was an infant than go through the pain I'm in now whilst my urology consultations keep getting pushed back, and that's before you add on the risks of anaesthetics required for adults.
But that's just me, and yes my opinion has done a 180 in the last 2 or so years.
I mentioned it because it's, to me anyway, an elephant in the room. Lots of fuss made about transgender sex change ops etc.* but cultural genital mutilation of males goes unmentioned. How to tell if unnecessary? Not done for medical reasons and not done by a medically qualified person would be two clues.
*And rightly so. Has there been a sudden rise in cases and if so why? Medicine has a long and unpleasant history of bad practice, all those lobotomies done for no good reason for example. The Swedes are interesting too, they were still forcibly sterilising women in the 1980s.
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I'd sooner have had mine chopped off when I was an infant than go through the pain I'm in now whilst my urology consultations keep getting pushed back, and that's before you add on the risks of anaesthetics required for adults.
But that's just me, and yes my opinion has done a 180 in the last 2 or so years.
If it was done as an infant for genuine medical reasons then that’s fine. But to be done because ‘God said’ is less fine.
I'd sooner have had mine chopped off when I was an infant than go through the pain I'm in now whilst my urology consultations keep getting pushed back, and that's before you add on the risks of anaesthetics required for adults.
But that's just me, and yes my opinion has done a 180 in the last 2 or so years.
If it was done as an infant for genuine medical reasons then that’s fine. But to be done because ‘God said’ is less fine.
I don't disagree that religion is a f'ing stupid reason for it, however I am coming around to the American norm of circumcision at birth as a preventative medical procedure even when there is no immediate medical need.
cheb wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:43 pm
I mentioned it because it's, to me anyway, an elephant in the room. Lots of fuss made about transgender sex change ops etc.* but cultural genital mutilation of males goes unmentioned. How to tell if unnecessary? Not done for medical reasons and not done by a medically qualified person would be two clues.
*And rightly so. Has there been a sudden rise in cases and if so why? Medicine has a long and unpleasant history of bad practice, all those lobotomies done for no good reason for example. The Swedes are interesting too, they were still forcibly sterilising women in the 1980s.
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:26 pm
It beggars belief that anyone would defend a parent for submitting their child to "gender reassignment" let alone the so called "doctors" who are happy to accept money for mutilating children.
I have absolutely no idea what it's like to be either parent or child in this ^^^ situation. I do know that virtually every situation you come across as a parent for the first time is something you're not prepared for to a greater or lesser extent.
I'm not defending or attacking anyone in this situation.
For all your talk of MSM brainwashing you don't half have a one track message from the other side.
This is one occasion where I am happy to admit you are dead right: I have absolutely no time whatsoever for this sort of surgical intervention performed on any child. The whole nonsense about multiple gender, non-binary, transgender is a pseudoscience being perpetrated by the mass media. So yes, I am happy to confirm I do indeed have a one track mind on this issue.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:21 pm
however I am coming around to the American norm of circumcision at birth as a preventative medical procedure even when there is no immediate medical need.
Everybody’s not getting circumcised just because you’ve got a defective knob!
