Should America grow up and seriously restrict gun use/ownership?

[Screwdriver]

If Trump did pay off Stormy to keep it quiet and in doing so that's a crime - isn't it a crime her accepting the hush money?

It's not a crime. It is distasteful but if someone wants to "spill the beans" you either A. go to court, spend a small fortune defending yourself and everybody gets to hear about it anyway or B. persuade them with a "settlement" up front.

The "fraudulent business activity" is a carefully worded spin on the facts of the matter which appear to be relating to how a dodgy accountant made those payments after Trump told him to use cash. The accountant committed fraud (I don't know the details) and was prosecuted/jailed for it. It is unclear what Trumps involvement would have been, one assumes he just bankrolled the accountant and left him to get on with it.

Skip forwards a decade and suddenly the Biden admin have decided Trump is a problem and somehow this payment needs to be reinvestigated as an election expense. It was not declared as an expense. I assume thats because the payment was made after Trump was in the Whitehouse.
It wasn't just a single reimbursement, apparently it was effectively paid off by employing the accountant on a retainer, hence the "34 counts of business fraud". Sounds bad right until you realise it's just the one thing and that thing is bollocks anyway.

The case will go nowhere of course but that doesn't matter, sharper minds than mine will ensure it carries on well into the election cycle so that the mainstream media will have something to smear Trump with. Somewhat ironic that this Trump hush money is being touted as "election interference" when the Biden admin are literally guilty of actual election interference!

[ZRX61]

If Trump did pay off Stormy to keep it quiet and in doing so that's a crime - isn't it a crime her accepting the hush money?

Paying her off isn't a crime. The issue is how the funds were dispersed.

[DefTrap]

While you're all obsessed with Biden's laptops and Trump's porno payoffs, what else is slipping quietly by?

[cheb]

The SNP's squandering their supporters funds on campervans, and luxury socks and sandals?

[Screwdriver]

The SNP's squandering their supporters funds on campervans, and luxury socks and sandals?

Squandering? That's a bit harsh.

It's a really nice campervan!

[cheb]

I'm amused by the mundanity of it. Drugs and hookers? No, a nice comfy campervan.

Even collagen lip implants would have a bit more interesting.

[irie]

The SNP's squandering their supporters funds on campervans, and luxury socks and sandals?

I reckon the shortened SNP leadership campaign will run and run, probably through the courts as well ...

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics ... p-contest/

At an emergency meeting the day after Nicola Sturgeon resigned, the party’s ruling NEC agreed to a rapid timetable for the contest, with a new leader in place within 40 days.

The party’s constitution states that the process should normally run for around 133 days.

[Cousin Jack]

The SNP debacle illustrates nicely that all politicians are crooks. Unfortunately only some get caught, and usually only after they have been at it for years.

[Bwana]

No it is another attempt to discredit the authenticity of the laptop and it's contents. Notice how this "debunking" carefully avoids any mention of the actual content. I contained links to bank records and payments which expose verifiable transactions, pictures of HB smoking a crack pipe or shagging a hooker, email trails which can also be traced etc.

It is absolutely true that a copy is not admissible as evidence. The moment anyone looks at a hard drive outside of a data forensic environment, the data is compromised. So what did the FBI do with the only unquestionable source? Nothing. And yet the information contained on that laptop leads to discoveries which expose highly questionable actions on the part of the Bidens.

...So leaning on it as evidence of anything is a fool's errand. Yes, some of the info on the "laptop" was verified

....You claim the J6 activities in the Capitol building were peaceful.

...There is plenty of footage of them NOT being peaceful inside the building.

I am not suggesting the laptop is evidence of anything, I am merely reacting to the idiotic attempts to call it RD (I am using your newly invented euphemism cf. "conspiracy theory" to refer to "Russian disinformation"). Then further attempts to deny it is even Hunters laptop, then claims that it was "stolen" and therefore "hacked" and therefore no one can speak of it in the entire world of social media/big tech. Then finally, now that all of the smoke and mirrors have failed, it is denounced as "compromised".

I don't care about any of that. We are used to that concerted level of disinformation. I have personally been battling with the subject for years now and it is the lies/disinformation I object to more strongly than whether or not the laptop has incriminating evidence on it.

As it happens though, it does. It is immaterial that the evidence (which you say cannot be "true" due to its chain of custody) cannot be used as evidence because that "untrustworthy" evidence has led to discoveries. Including a very real chain of bank records showing how the CCP secretly paid millions to the Biden mafia.

I do not claim the J6 activities were "peaceful", I merely object again to the lies/disinformation and blatant propaganda being spewed out by the mainstream media and swallowed whole by people like you. Calling it an "insurrection" and "the worst violence since the civil war" while at the same time hiding ALL of the CCTV footage of the even and only showing brief excerpts of events outside which I have painstakingly detailed in an earlier post. That footage uses clever editing, shaky video and jump cuts to make it look worse than it is. There's even a heavily colour corrected shot through some "smoke" (tear gas) which purports to show the building on fire! Hilarious.

Oh. Another claim that there is some further footage of "NOT being peaceful" activities inside the building. "Plenty of it too". Excellent.

Show me.

Are you attempting to imply the swarm of protesters in the Capitol building was no big deal and that property destruction did not occur?

Capitol Police provided 14,000 hours of footage. There's a lot to sift through. To find some of protesters milling about as if they're on a tour is going to be easy. However, that ignores a few items. They gained entry through violent means. They busted out windows and climbed inside. They were not supposed to be inside regardless of their means of entry. They had violent intent. Or do you think they were there to deliver pizza? It sounds as if you think showing some of the "tourists" meandering around negates the actions that took place. Are you suggesting there was no damage to the building or any of its contents?

I did a simple google search "J6 video inside the Capitol building," here's the top link (fast forward to about 6:30 if you don't want to watch the entire video):

[Bwana]

That you think the angry mob that was filmed outside the building turned into a peaceful presence after they bashed their way into a building where they weren't supposed to be defies all logic. There is plenty of footage of them NOT being peaceful inside the building.

There's no footage of the horn bloke doing any damage & within days of Carlson showing him being escorted by cops around the building he was suddenly released from prison..

Q Anon Shaman, Jacob Chansley, was transferred to a "residential reentry management" facility in Phoenix, with a release date of May 25. He was originally projected to be released July 2023, but federal prisoners can earn reductions in sentences over the course of their time behind bars. link

Nowt to do with Tucker Carlson showing home movies. His cherry picked 4 minutes is a misrepresentation of his full time in the building. BTW that started with the earliest wave of rioters entering the building.

[ZRX61]

Q Anon Shaman, Jacob Chansley, was transferred to a "residential reentry management" facility in Phoenix, with a release date of May 25. He was originally projected to be released July 2023, but federal prisoners can earn reductions in sentences over the course of their time behind bars. link

Nowt to do with Tucker Carlson showing home movies. His cherry picked 4 minutes is a misrepresentation of his full time in the building. BTW that started with the earliest wave of rioters entering the building.

Feel free to link the video of him damaging anything...

[Bwana]

While you're all obsessed with Biden's laptops and Trump's porno payoffs, what else is slipping quietly by?

Life

[Bwana]

Q Anon Shaman, Jacob Chansley, was transferred to a "residential reentry management" facility in Phoenix, with a release date of May 25. He was originally projected to be released July 2023, but federal prisoners can earn reductions in sentences over the course of their time behind bars. link

Nowt to do with Tucker Carlson showing home movies. His cherry picked 4 minutes is a misrepresentation of his full time in the building. BTW that started with the earliest wave of rioters entering the building.

Feel free to link the video of him damaging anything...

A boat load of them entered and didn't damage anything. They weren't supposed to be inside the building. It was closed to tourism. He was convicted of obstructing an official proceeding. He wasn't released, he's in a halfway house. Tucker Carslon's bit of footage had nothing to do with them moving his release to an earlier date. That happens all the time based upon good behavior.

Honestly, does anyone bother to look at the small details anymore? You've claimed you don't watch Fox if my memory serves me well. Apparently you've lifted this little gotcha moment off facebook or similar. And it's still doesn't hold water.

[ZRX61]

LOL!!

[Bwana]

*parp*

[Mr Moofo]

Another 5 dead today - now in Louisville.
Best solution would be to allow Americans to have more guns ..

[Bwana]

Another 5 dead today - now in Louisville.
Best solution would be to allow Americans to have more guns ..

That seems to be the NRA's favorite answer. Maybe a good guy school teacher can stop a bad guy with a gun. My recollection of some of my school teachers doesn't agree with that notion though. Maybe a Barney Fife in every school room.

[Yambo]

They weren't supposed to be inside the building. It was closed to tourism.

Abe Lincoln]“that these dead shall not have died in vain– that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”

Surely, the people shouldn't be denied access to the seat of government . . .

[Screwdriver]

I did a simple google search "J6 video inside the Capitol building," here's the top link (fast forward to about 6:30 if you don't want to watch the entire video):

"Insurrection worse since the civil war"... Blah blah. What a load of tosh.

I did watch the video and I didn't see anything at 6:30. It is a very large crowd of protestors and large crowds of people are difficult to contain.

The only violence in that video is Ashli Babbitt shot dead. Murdered by a security guard.

[Bwana]

I did a simple google search "J6 video inside the Capitol building," here's the top link (fast forward to about 6:30 if you don't want to watch the entire video):

"Insurrection worse since the civil war"... Blah blah. What a load of tosh.

I did watch the video and I didn't see anything at 6:30. It is a very large crowd of protestors and large crowds of people are difficult to contain.

The only violence in that video is Ashli Babbitt shot dead. Murdered by a security guard.

Read this next sentence slowly:
They were there illegally, unlawfully, against the rools. At 6:30 there are rioters pushing police officers backwards by force. They're in the Capitol building, already an offence, that alone would result in an immediate arrest if you attempted it without a 1000 of your closest angry mob friends.

The building was closed to the public. They overwhelmed police officers to get to the building. Flag poles and bear spray among other things were used. There was a cache of weapons stashed not far away, at the ready. Once they pushed their way to the Capitol building they broke windows to get into the it and continued damaging property once inside.

Go to 11:45 in the video. That's where Babbit gets shot. FFS, the doors were barricaded with chairs and there were shouts from the mob that there was a gun drawn. There were orders getting shouted to get back. So what does Babbit do? She attempts to climb through the broken window and gets her dumb arse shot. The guards were protecting the legislators who were not far from this point from what looks like an angry mob. You can hallucinate all you want, but they were aggressive and showing clear signs of violent intent. Bashing glass through to get to legislators, WTF do you think they wanted? To play canasta with them?

As of early January of this year, 465 of them have entered guilty pleas to charges including assault on law enforcement and obstruction of a civil proceeding. Robert Palmer chucked a wooden plank at police while at one of the doors to the Capitol building. He sprayed cops with a fire extinguisher and then chucked it at them when it was empty. He then assaulted the cops with a pole. He got more than 5 years for his part in the not an insurrection. Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Meggs were both convicted of seditious conspiracy. 978 individuals have been charged and arrested for multiple crimes associated with the "peaceful" celebration. Over 260 have been charged with serious crimes relating to assaulting police or impeding law enforcement.

They entered by outnumbering the officers present and breaking through barricades. There were numerous members of the police force that were injured in the protest.

It's quite amazing that you can watch that video and come back trying to claim there is overstatement about violent intent.