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[Mr. Dazzle]

Why don't you go and actually read the government's stand point on this topic? First thing to look at is right there ^^^.

Who said anything about doing something in 7 years time?

[cheb]

"By 2030, we expect there to be around 300,000 public chargepoints as a minimum in the UK, but there could potentially be more than double that number"

Shifty Sunak &Co needs a bit of time to work out how to outsource all this to his mates.

That's assuming another two Tory terms in parliament. Yay, woot etc.

[Screwdriver]

But what he has done is gone around doing whatever he wants and then thinking that he can pay them off because he's rich.
I'd like to see an end to it and an example made.

Unfortunately, making an example of him (or Biden for taking Chinese money) won't work, because its endemic, all they do is occasionally pick out someone that they don't like and go after them, whilst a lot of other people carry on. Epstein and his assistant is a great example, he's dead, his assistant silenced, but what about all the high-rolling monsters that used his services?

It's funny, I was actually looking forwards to seeing something I could criticise Trump for so that it didn't appear I was blinkered. I've never met him and if I did, I probably wouldn't like him but that's not the test of a persons ability, it's more of a conflict of personality. Something that Trump seems to generate in abundance.

But it's been a couple of days and there's no concrete accusation you can get your head around. Just a sort of "wave the hands in the air, business fraud" rhetoric. It appears to still centre around Stormy Damiels being paid off, flagged as "election fraud" because it is alleged to transgress some rule/law/procedure (?) regarding how such payments are made/disclosed. <dunno>

There appears to be some doubt in that case whether or not they relate to an actual election. The Stormy cheques were made when he was already in the WhiteHouse (apparently). Paying someone off so you don't have to go to court and also pay off a team of lawyers is not illegal. Plus of course, how can it be "election interference" if he had already been elected?

On top of that the "34 business fraud charges" appear (to someone who has seen the detail) to actually be recurring payments (a monthly retainer) rather than 34 separate incidents. In either event, none of those "offences" would be sufficient to arrest anyone or stick them in handcuffs, fingerprint etc. They are, in the parlance of the US, "misdemeanours".

It all looks a bit wishy washy to say the least and yet the lasting impression will be that Trump has committed serious business fraud because y'know, no smoke without fire. Plus the mainstream media won't' stop talking about it non stop and they will use a brainwashing technique by using a particular phrase, exact same set of words, over and over and over again...

Almost eight years after the fact and "coincidentally" right before an election.

[mangocrazy]

Almost eight years after the fact and "coincidentally" right before an election.

To be fair, almost any time in America is 'right before an election'. They come round every 4 years and the hustings for the next one starts shortly after the 'new' president is sworn in. It's pretty much a perpetual electoral cycle.

[Ant]

Julie Burchill writes on how the Guardian wrecked itself....

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... 7e2m77bmJI

[weeksy]

Julie Burchill writes on how the Guardian wrecked itself....

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... 7e2m77bmJI

And what's your thoughts?

[Horse]

The Stormy cheques were made when he was already in the WhiteHouse (apparently).

"Apparently"?

Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to a federal charge relating to a $130,000 payment to Daniels in the closing days of the 2016 campaign.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna75082

Plenty more detail here:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/mi ... iminal-tax

[Screwdriver]

Almost eight years after the fact and "coincidentally" right before an election.

To be fair, almost any time in America is 'right before an election'. They come round every 4 years and the hustings for the next one starts shortly after the 'new' president is sworn in. It's pretty much a perpetual electoral cycle.

These are the elections for the Republican candidacy. The next president. This is clearly political gamesmanship. Obvious election (electoral?) interference and a smear campaign organised by the power behind the puppet. Probably Soros, Hilary Clinton and Obama running the US from behind the scenes. And as for the timing. This case has been known about for years AND the accountant who "mismanaged" these transactions has already been jailed.

If this was Russia, I could understand it. Political opponent, lock 'em up. Or, a banana republic where they just make something up and arrest you for it. But America considers itself the very model of democracy, it wages war on countries for not being "fair" not "playing by the rules" and for being undemocratic dictatorships. This charade is just bollocks.

It is extraordinary behaviour for a civilised first world nation. It's like the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan using taxpayers money to pursue Boris Johnson, have him arrested and charged for cheating on his wife because keeping it quiet was "election interference".

[Ant]

Julie Burchill writes on how the Guardian wrecked itself....

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... 7e2m77bmJI

And what's your thoughts?

I can sympathise with her, I read the Guardian often and it does appear to be just a more left wing version of what it proports to be against.

[Cousin Jack]

So over 7 times more EV charging points by 2030 than currently available. Sticking to my IC car for the for the forseable. A slo-mo debacle in the making ...

Someone should probably do something about that.

Oh....

"By 2030, we expect there to be around 300,000 public chargepoints as a minimum in the UK, but there could potentially be more than double that number"

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... rategy.pdf

Great expectations.

There are lies, damned lies, and government forecasts.

[Mr. Dazzle]

There are lies, damned lies, and government forecasts.

But, again, you believe the forecasts on how many charging points are needed? Why?

Government policy has already started several concrete actions BTW. Changing planning regs requiring all new homes/conversions to have charging for example. Or investing over £1 billion in charging infrastructure.

[ZRX61]

But, again, you believe the forecasts on how many charging points are needed? Why?

Government policy has already started several concrete actions BTW. Changing planning regs requiring all new homes/conversions to have charging for example. Or investing over £1 billion in charging infrastructure.

How does that work for homes that have no parking area or garages? Charging cords all over the pavement?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Only applies to homes with parking.

[ZRX61]

So people without parking still get to drive ICE vehicles?

[Mussels]

So people without parking still get to drive ICE vehicles?

People who can't afford private parking won't be able to afford EVs, problem solved.

[irie]

There are lies, damned lies, and government forecasts.

But, again, you believe the forecasts on how many charging points are needed? Why?

Government policy has already started several concrete actions BTW. Changing planning regs requiring all new homes/conversions to have charging for example. Or investing over £1 billion in charging infrastructure.

So you believe this crap the same as you believed that there was no way that Boeing could self certify its aircraft as being safe to fly knowing internally that they were essentially a new design, and not believing that the German automobile industry (VW, MB, et.al.) could knowingly install cheat ECU devices supplied by Bosch to increase commercial sales? Nah, no way. There's naive and there's stupid, you're the former. 7 years?

[Mr. Dazzle]

I don't recall saying either of those things if such concrete terms, but if you say so.

You ain't answering the actual question I see as usual so I'll leave it there.

[irie]

I don't recall saying either of those things if such concrete terms, but if you say so.

You ain't answering the actual question I see as usual so I'll leave it there.

Speaking as an ex-Operational Research engineer, perhaps you would care to look at forecast confidence limits?

The confidence limits on 7 year forecasts are far beyond

[Mr. Dazzle]

I don't recall saying either of those things if such concrete terms, but if you say so.

You ain't answering the actual question I see as usual so I'll leave it there.

Speaking as an ex-Operational Research engineer, perhaps you would care to look at forecast confidence limits?

The confidence limits on 7 year forecasts are far beyond

So what's your point? What was the point of quoting that article which also makes a prediction for 7 years time?

Really don't get what you're tying to say.

[Screwdriver]

How does that work for homes that have no parking area or garages? Charging cords all over the pavement?

The world is no longer being run for the benefit of humanity. The road we are on means us mere plebs won't own anything. Not our homes, our transport, we will own nothing.

There is such a gigantic imbalance in global finance that the super rich are buying up everything. They create the financial condition which allow them to more easily acquire, land, property and of course, more money.

Peasants like me can't really do anything about it. The wealthier middle class could but don't appear to either realise what's going on or couldn't care less because they don't think it will ever affect them.

But the rate at which the rich are getting richer took such a massive jump, they'll be coming after all that lovely middle class loot sooner rather than later. I imagine it will be something like a run on the banks and the collapse of several pensions companies or some such scam. Naturally the private equity companies will have protected themselves from the chaos that ensues, after all, they are the same people who will make it happen.

So I wouldn't be too worried about how on earth we'll all be able to drive around in Ev's. We won't all be doing it...